Crown seeking 7 years for Tamara Lich

[Moonlight Graham]

On the charge of mischief.  For convincing people to block roads with trucks for a peaceful protest.  Would 6 months or a fine + community service and probation be fair?  Sure.  But 7 years is just disgusting politically motivation in this racist 2-tier justice system.

Anyone who disagrees is politically motivated and a hypocrite because none of them including the Crown would be seeking 7 years if this were an indigenous or Black Lives Matter peaceful protest.  Did the Crown seek 7 years for the indigenous people when they blocked railway lines with trucks for weeks in 2020 to protest pipelines?  No, they didn't even charge anyone:

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On June 5, the BC Prosecution Service issued a statement saying that criminal contempt charges for 22 members of the Wetʼsuwetʼen Nation and their supporters would not be pursued. Additionally, Coastal GasLink issued a statement that they would not pursue civil contempt charges against the protesters.^[41]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests#

 

[Zeitgeist]

8 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

On the charge of mischief.  For convincing people to block roads with trucks for a peaceful protest.  Would 6 months or a fine + community service and probation be fair?  Sure.  But 7 years is just disgusting politically motivation in this racist 2-tier justice system.

Anyone who disagrees is politically motivated and a hypocrite because none of them including the Crown would be seeking 7 years if this were an indigenous or Black Lives Matter peaceful protest.  Did the Crown seek 7 years for the indigenous people when they blocked railway lines with trucks for weeks in 2020 to protest pipelines?  No, they didn't even charge anyone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests#

 

The Liberal-influenced courts and media are creating two-tier justice in Canada.  Strangely, the general public still aren’t catching on. Canada appears to be a de facto one party state.

[TreeBeard]

7 years isn’t long enough. 

[Michael Hardner]

Michael Bryant, Kevin O'Leary...

Let's everyone pick some random names...

[Legato]

10 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

7 years isn’t long enough. 

Why?

 

[Moonlight Graham]

9 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

7 years isn’t long enough. 

For trucks honking horns? 😂 It's a bunch of parking tickets and noise bylaw infractions.

[TreeBeard]

She’s a wannabe domestic terrorist. 

[Moonlight Graham]

Never forget the time a bunch of illegally parked party-goers brought the country to its knees.

Trump could invade with a convoy of ice cream trucks and force a surrender.

[Moonlight Graham]

Just now, TreeBeard said:

She’s a wannabe domestic terrorist. 

What terrorism exactly?  The charge is mischief.  Honky horns bro.  She's an annoying conservative with organization skills.

[herbie]

43 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

7 years isn’t long enough. 

sure it is. In a mental institution or to repeat Grades 6-12 and learn how the govt works.

[blackbird]

"

From January to March 2020, a series of civil disobedience protests were held in Canada over the construction of the Coastal GasLink Pipeline (CGL) through 190 kilometres (120 mi) of Wetʼsuwetʼen First Nation territory in British Columbia (BC), land that is unceded. Other concerns of the protesters were Indigenous land rights, the actions of police, land conservation, and the environmental impact of energy projects.

Starting in 2010, the Wetʼsuwetʼen hereditary chiefs and their supporters made their opposition to the project known and set up a camp directly in the path of the Enbridge Northern Gateway Pipelines, a path similar to that which would later be proposed for the Coastal GasLink Pipeline. Northern Gateway was officially rejected in 2016, but the CGL project moved through planning, indigenous consultations, environmental reviews and governmental reviews before being approved in 2015. However, the approval of all the Wetʼsuwetʼen hereditary chiefs was never granted. In 2018, the backers of the pipeline project gave the go-ahead to the CA$6.6 billion project and it began construction. Access to the Coastal GasLink Pipeline construction camps in Wetʼsuwetʼen territory was blocked and the Coastal GasLink project was granted an injunction in 2018 to remove the land defenders. In January 2019, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) of British Columbia removed the blockades and CGL pre-construction work in the territory was completed. Subsequently, the blockades were rebuilt and Coastal GasLink was granted a second injunction by the BC Supreme Court in December 2019 to allow construction.

In February 2020, after the RCMP enforced the second court injunction, removing the Wetʼsuwetʼen blockades and arresting Wetʼsuwetʼen land defenders, solidarity protests sprang up across Canada. Many were rail blockades, including one blockade near Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory which halted traffic along a major Canadian National Railway (CNR) line between Toronto and Montreal and led to a shutdown of passenger rail service and rail freight operations in much of Canada. The Eastern Ontario blockade was itself removed by the Ontario Provincial Police. Blockades and protests continued through March in BC, Ontario and Quebec. Discussions between representatives of the Wetʼsuwetʼen and the governments of Canada and British Columbia have led to a provisional agreement on the Wetʼsuwetʼen land rights in the area."

2020 Canadian pipeline and railway protests - Wikipedia

In spite of all the blocking of railways, blocking of construction of the pipeline, I don't recall anybody receiving any significant jail time for their illegal actions.  One law for truckers and their supporters who opposed Trudeau and another law for environmental radicals and hereditary chiefs who don't represent the majority of natives.  No punishment for shutting down railways and construction of the pipeline in most cases.

Just as a side comment, the hereditary chiefs in northwest B.C. claim thousands of square kilometers of land as their traditional territory and think they have the right to control what happens on that land.  There is no proof that they even lived on the vast areas they claim.  But they have figured out how the game to get more works.

Edited July 22, 2025 by blackbird

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

The Liberal-influenced courts and media are creating two-tier justice in Canada.  Strangely, the general public still aren’t catching on. Canada appears to be a de facto one party state.

You people have been whining about this since forever - and there's no end in sight.

Maybe if you made your case bearing arms Canadians might start paying attention. You better not waste much more time though, eventually all the angry old right-wingers will be dead and there's little reason to think the next generation of angry young right wingers will have any more conviction or courage.

C'mon, you know you wanna - go out in a blaze of glory mowing down lefties. They'll have a special place in heaven for you fer sure.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You people have been whining about this since forever - and there's no end in sight.

Maybe if you made your case bearing arms Canadians might start paying attention. You better not waste much more time though, eventually all the angry old right-wingers will be dead and there's little reason to think the next generation of angry young right wingers will have any more conviction or courage.

C'mon, you know you wanna - go out in a blaze of glory mowing down lefties. They'll have a special place in heaven for you fer sure.

Many of our governments are pretty racist against caucasians though.  And the Trudeau gov (we'll see about Carney, so far not so good) was discriminatory against males in order to pander to women for votes.  It's objectively true, it's even a matter of official policy in hiring they put in writing, it's really not a matter of debate.

Not to mention politically motivated bias against conservatives in the courts and the state broadcaster.  Are conservatives any better?  In the past no, but nowadays i'd say yes.  This still doesn't excuse the problem.  It's also still a problem even if you and others on the left don't care about this issue.

And yes, caucasians and males can be the victims of racial and gender discrimination too.  Those who believe otherwise are sexist and racist.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You people have been whining about this since forever - and there's no end in sight.

Also eyeball, do you believe the Crown wanting 7 years for the charge of mischief is grossly excessive in this case?

[West]

About as vile as it gets. Give her a longer sentence than a murderer for embarrassing Trudeau. The Liberal party and their supporters are scum 

[West]

4 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

On the charge of mischief.  For convincing people to block roads with trucks for a peaceful protest.  Would 6 months or a fine + community service and probation be fair?  Sure.  But 7 years is just disgusting politically motivation in this racist 2-tier justice system.

Anyone who disagrees is politically motivated and a hypocrite because none of them including the Crown would be seeking 7 years if this were an indigenous or Black Lives Matter peaceful protest.  Did the Crown seek 7 years for the indigenous people when they blocked railway lines with trucks for weeks in 2020 to protest pipelines?  No, they didn't even charge anyone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests#

 

In Saskatchewan today the so called justice system decided to intimidate Christians by convicting a former school administrator of doing what every public school did which was give physical punishment. 

The justice system is just there to set vile narratives. Its run by a bunch of woke pieces of shit. 

[West]

Woke marxists have taken over the legal system. Here's hoping other countries like the US intervene and slap sanctions on eastern Canadian goods as a means of restoring human rights and the right to protest in Canada 

[Venandi]

7 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

7 years isn’t long enough. 

 

7 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

She’s a wannabe domestic terrorist. 

Good Lord.... find any definition of terrorism (RCMP, UN, DOD, HLS, CF etc) and explain how she approaches any established threshold of domestic terrorism... the use and/or threat of violence is a key component and it was totally lacking here.

This is purely political to the point that if I were you, I'd be concerned that my own political rivals might consider using the same unhinged extremist logic against me at some point in the future. 

Right now that's not the case, if you were to defend your own views in the same manner that she did I'd say exactly the same thing in your defence... this isn't about agreeing with her. 

The only way you can possibly make a case is by being totally bat shi% crazy at a time when you have the (temporary) political clout to do so. Wouldn't it be wise to consider that won't always be the case? I really don't think you, or anyone else for that matter would actually enjoy riding the bull you're currently poking with a stick on a full stomach.

Even though that might be entertaining for some of us to watch, when it comes right down to it I'd actually hate to see you in the same predicament you seem to be cheerleading for. 

Isn't that attitude more inline with a society that everyone can actually cheer for?

 

Edited July 22, 2025 by Venandi

[Legato]

10 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

She’s a wannabe domestic terrorist. 

You must still wearing a cloth mask and following the arrows in the market.

Don't forget the 6' rule, 5' 9" is lethal. Don't even think about 5' 8".

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

... yes, caucasians and males can be the victims of racial and gender discrimination too.  Those who believe otherwise are sexist and racist.

Except that you've proven yourself unable to debate such things objectively, ostensibly because of an imagined victim mentality.  Go and focus on your objectivity before you make proclamations about things not being "matters of debate".

[Barquentine]

12 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

On the charge of mischief. 

Yeah, whatever happened to the missing 8 million dollars of donations. She was using a personal account and had access to a lot of bitcoin. Just askin'.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Except that you've proven yourself unable to debate such things objectively, ostensibly because of an imagined victim mentality.  Go and focus on your objectivity before you make proclamations about things not being "matters of debate".

And you're objective on this topic 😂?  If my race and gender is being actively discriminated against by the government that would make me a victim of discrimination, yes.  And if such things are objectively happening, this is not "imagined".

If I were indigenous or black or Muslim or a woman you wouldn't be saying that to me.  This makes you a racist and a sexist, against yourself.  You have a guilt-complex, pushed on you by the left.

I believe in legal and political equality, you do not.  Legal and political equality is called "human rights" and "liberal democracy".

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Yeah, whatever happened to the missing 8 million dollars of donations. She was using a personal account and had access to a lot of bitcoin. Just askin'.

If true, that would be a separate charge

Edited July 22, 2025 by Moonlight Graham

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1. And you're objective on this topic 😂? 

2. If my race and gender is being actively discriminated against by the government that would make me a victim of discrimination, yes.  And if such things are objectively happening, this is not "imagined".

3. If I were indigenous or black or Muslim or a woman you wouldn't be saying that to me. 

4. This makes you a racist and a sexist, against yourself.  You have a guilt-complex, pushed on you by the left.

5. I believe in legal and political equality, you do not.   

1. I'd say so, yes.  Why ?  Do you think otherwise ?  If so, that's pretty telling given I haven't even answered.
2. At best, we would get into a semantic argument on this and yet it's still not worth me having to repeat my past assertions which you have not absorbed.
3. And... here it goes with the scenario where you tell me what I think.  So tiresome, Graham.. really...
4. Uh huh... (yawns)
5. See #3, then #4 above.

Let's not and say we did...

[Moonlight Graham]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. I'd say so, yes.  Why ?  Do you think otherwise ?  If so, that's pretty telling given I haven't even answered.
2. At best, we would get into a semantic argument on this and yet it's still not worth me having to repeat my past assertions which you have not absorbed.
3. And... here it goes with the scenario where you tell me what I think.  So tiresome, Graham.. really...
4. Uh huh... (yawns)
5. See #3, then #4 above.

Let's not and say we did...

Your reply to this post would be completely different if left-leaning indigenous protestors were involved here.  I've seen your posts on the truckers protests and identity politics to know what your stance is.  Not to mention your aggressive reply to this thread.  You can deny and lie and gaslight whatever you want.  You're a manipulative person and you try to get away with it using the polite civil demeanor.   I'm not that stupid.  Same MO.  

Edited July 22, 2025 by Moonlight Graham

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1. Your reply to this post would be completely different if left-leaning indigenous protestors were involved here. 

2. I've seen your posts on the truckers protests and identity politics to know what your stance is. 

3. Not to mention your aggressive reply to this thread. 

4. You can deny and lie and gaslight whatever you want.  You're a manipulative person and you try to get away with it using the polite civil demeanor.   I'm not that stupid.  Same MO.  

1. You prove my point in the last post.  I don't think I have ever engaged in an indigenous person on here so why would you know that.  It's pure arrogance the way you talk to me... looking down your nose at my supposed flaws worse than any PC liberal on here would.

2. Imagine... just imagine... if you were wrong on this.  What would it feel like ?  Would it "rock your world" ?  You forget that we have had exchanges where I have changed my view and listened to your POV.  But it harshes your "buzz" of talking to real people vs your fantasy stereotypes.  Seriously frustrating for me, given the respect and care I have taken in our conversations on CPE.

3.  Yes, I am p!ssed off at your continual arrogance and telling me what I think.

4. Holding up a mirror to you here... Yeah, if you care (since you haven't heard yet) I do think that the punishment proposed is too harsh.  Please sit down after you read that in case you lose consciousness.