Is Prime Minister Mark Carney a closet Conservative ?

[Nefarious Banana]

Canada's new PM has hi-jacked a large portion of the Conservative platform . . . reducing ministeries/portfolios, reducing government spending, and cancelling the hated carbon tax on fuel/heating, etc., etc.

It appears that Pierre Poilievre's  lead is fading by the day, and nothing really new in that department on the immediate horizon.  Will PM Carney be able to sway the centerist Conservatives to take a look at the 'new look' federal Liberals? 

Jagmeet Singh . . . the mongrel circling two old flailing milk cows?

[WestCanMan]

So Canadians are supposed to believe that all the DEI vax-fascists who followed in lock-step with Trudeau for 9 years are suddenly going to do a 180°?

Just swap Trudeau for Carney and suddenly all of them become less retarded?

Sorry, but failure on that level comes with consequences.  

[TreeBeard]

Closeted?  No!

He’s definitely conservative.  

Edited March 19 by TreeBeard

[ExFlyer]

30 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Canada's new PM has hi-jacked a large portion of the Conservative platform . . . reducing ministeries/portfolios, reducing government spending, and cancelling the hated carbon tax on fuel/heating, etc., etc.

It appears that Pierre Poilievre's  lead is fading by the day, and nothing really new in that department on the immediate horizon.  Will PM Carney be able to sway the centerist Conservatives to take a look at the 'new look' federal Liberals? 

Jagmeet Singh . . . the mongrel circling two old flailing milk cows?

The real question is what happened to PP?

Is his message tired, old and regurgitated too often?

Did his PR department aim wrong?

Did he emulate Trump too much??

I truly hope the people in Burnaby realize Jagmeet is a huge loser and punt him out of politics.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Canada's new PM has hi-jacked a large portion of the Conservative platform . . . reducing ministeries/portfolios, reducing government spending, and cancelling the hated carbon tax on fuel/heating, etc., etc.

It appears that Pierre Poilievre's  lead is fading by the day, and nothing really new in that department on the immediate horizon.  Will PM Carney be able to sway the centerist Conservatives to take a look at the 'new look' federal Liberals? 

Jagmeet Singh . . . the mongrel circling two old flailing milk cows?

I think it's going to be a question of what Canadians think he's going to do after he's actually elected.

This is all going to come down to the campaign. If carney runs a good campaign he could win. If he runs a poor campaign and poilievre runs a good one then the liberals will be doing well to get 50 seats

[herbie]

Oh for God's sake all small c Conservatives had to become Liberals over the years. The poisoning of the PCs by Reform's championing reforms and then immediately dropping all that entirely to just inject Social Conservatism saw to that years ago.

[Barquentine]

Of course he's small-c conservative. He was a central banker, for cryin' out loud. And of course there will be similarities in a lot of policies between the 2 centrist parties. Our politics are pretty stable from gov't to gov't. What's different lately is the importing of American style demonization of our opponents, especially from the right. You only have to read a few threads on this site to understand that.

[Michael Hardner]

26 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Of course he's small-c conservative. He was a central banker, for cryin' out loud. And of course there will be similarities in a lot of policies between the 2 centrist parties. Our politics are pretty stable from gov't to gov't. What's different lately is the importing of American style demonization of our opponents, especially from the right. You only have to read a few threads on this site to understand that.

Stop making sense.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Of course he's small-c conservative. He was a central banker, for cryin' out loud. And of course there will be similarities in a lot of policies between the 2 centrist parties. Our politics are pretty stable from gov't to gov't. What's different lately is the importing of American style demonization of our opponents, especially from the right. You only have to read a few threads on this site to understand that.

Your lack of self-awareness is stunning. It is a left on this board that does most of the insulting and attacking. Check out the number of threads that have been started by leftists attacking the right either in America or Canada, it's overwhelming.

And Trudeau is the number one offender for attacking people and bringing American style attack ads and attack insults into the program.

Harper hadn't even been sworn in as the conservative leader yet and they were already talking about his hidden agenda and "soldiers on the street we're not making this up!" 

But like a typical leftist you want to blame others for what your side is doing in droves.

The death of the civil discourse started with correction and when harper got elected the liberals took the gloves off and went hard on american style attack and they just gotten worse over the years. Now the CPC responds and you want to blame them.

[Moonbox]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Your lack of self-awareness is stunning.

If I didn't know better, I'd think this was some really clever self-parody on your part. 

Then I remembered that actually requires self-awareness, and cringed for you.  

[Barquentine]

48 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It is a left on this board that does most of the insulting and attacking.

You're not serious, are you? I mean really not serious in that you can't be taken seriously. I've lost count of the times I've been called stupid names on here, "woketard" being the preferred by you guys.

And PeePee's Cassandra act, parroting Trump, that Canada has been doomed to total destruction by Trudeau... not worth saying more about that.

But you know what? You guys go ahead with your insulting accusation-confessions. It seems to give you some needed self-affirmation.

I'm content. Hope you feel better.

 

[ironstone]

I would say that anyone that is obsessed with things like net-zero and ESG cannot be a closet conservative.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

If I didn't know better, I'd think this was some really clever self-parody on your part. 

Then I remembered that actually requires self-awareness, and cringed for you.  

LOL awww muffin, chasing me around trying to score points again are we?   You STILL feel like a failure after all this time do you? 

Well.... if you need to come here and while like a biatch to make yourself feel better about how many times i've made you look stupid then you go right ahead  LOL

What a broken little man you are  

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You're not serious, are you? I mean really not serious in that you can't be taken seriously. I've lost count of the times I've been called stupid names on here, "woketard" being the preferred by you guys.

 

Still far less than the left uses it. Sorry to break it to you, 

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And PeePee's Cassandra act, parroting Trump, that Canada has been doomed to total destruction by Trudeau... not worth saying more about that.

Because Canadians have already agreed? Go take a look at Trudeau's polling numbers before he left

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But you know what? You guys go ahead with your insulting accusation-confessions. It seems to give you some needed self-affirmation.

And you guys go ahead with yourself delusion and hypocrisy. I'm sure it will serve you every bit as well as it served Kamala Harris in the states.

 

[West]

On 3/19/2025 at 9:34 AM, WestCanMan said:

So Canadians are supposed to believe that all the DEI vax-fascists who followed in lock-step with Trudeau for 9 years are suddenly going to do a 180°?

Just swap Trudeau for Carney and suddenly all of them become less retarded?

Sorry, but failure on that level comes with consequences.  

He's just another Liberal Party clown. Also, his former firm Goldman Sachs got caught up in this scandal 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/25/1mdb-scandal-explained-a-tale-of-malaysias-missing-billions

[Pollux]

I do not think so

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Pollux said:

I do not think so

That's it? That's your whole opinion?

[Legato]

On 3/19/2025 at 11:37 AM, TreeBeard said:

Closeted?  No!

He’s definitely conservative.  

His closet is velvet lined and comes with a crown.

There's also a booklet with instructions on genuflecting for his followers.

The bottom drawer has lots of rose coloured glasses to hand out.

Not really conservative.

Edited March 21 by Legato

[TreeBeard]

2 minutes ago, Legato said:

Not really conservative.

Banker economist guy who cancels carbon tax.  Definitely conservative. 

[I am Groot]

On 3/19/2025 at 11:00 AM, Nefarious Banana said:

Canada's new PM has hi-jacked a large portion of the Conservative platform . . . reducing ministeries/portfolios, reducing government spending, and cancelling the hated carbon tax on fuel/heating, etc., etc.

It appears that Pierre Poilievre's  lead is fading by the day, and nothing really new in that department on the immediate horizon.  Will PM Carney be able to sway the centerist Conservatives to take a look at the 'new look' federal Liberals? 

Jagmeet Singh . . . the mongrel circling two old flailing milk cows?

He's done none of that. His lower number of ministers was meaningless given none will ever be even sitting in the house. He's said nothing about reducing government spending, and while he 'canceled' the consumer carbon tax he has announced he will replace it with one on business that will then trickle down to consumers in the form of higher prices. They just won't get a rebate for it. Oh, and he has long spoken of and written of the way carbon taxes ought to be applied. As a 'shadow tax', one that companies would apply internally and then include with the price they charge for their goods. That way, people wouldn't be annoyed by seeing how much they're spending on it. So expect legislation on that too. He will maintain hard caps on the expansion of oil and gas development and has suggested they could be lowered. Carney has long spoken of the need to strangle oil and gas development to aid the reduction of CO2.

On 3/19/2025 at 11:37 AM, TreeBeard said:

Closeted?  No!

He’s definitely conservative.  

Yes, much like you are.

[I am Groot]

On 3/19/2025 at 4:59 PM, herbie said:

Oh for God's sake all small c Conservatives had to become Liberals over the years. The poisoning of the PCs by Reform's championing reforms and then immediately dropping all that entirely to just inject Social Conservatism saw to that years ago.

The Canadian Conservative Party today is further to the Left than the Progressive Conservatives were, both fiscally and socially. This absurd posturing of the Left that they're suddenly the next thing to Hitler is laughable and dumb.

[I am Groot]

On 3/19/2025 at 5:29 PM, Barquentine said:

Of course he's small-c conservative. He was a central banker, for cryin' out loud. And of course there will be similarities in a lot of policies between the 2 centrist parties. Our politics are pretty stable from gov't to gov't. What's different lately is the importing of American style demonization of our opponents, especially from the right. You only have to read a few threads on this site to understand that.

Oh yes, the 'conservative' who wants to spend, spend spend and borrow, borrow, borrow. The 'conservative' who mocks the US war on woke and says Canada will always be a haven for DEI and racial hiring and promotion. The 'conservative' who says, with clenched jaw and angry eyes, that companies that don't get on board with climate change will be driven out of business. The 'conservative' who wants to spend two trillion dollars on a forlorn effort at reducing our CO2 emissions while opening the floodgates to even more immigrants to increase our population even more.

10 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Banker economist guy who cancels carbon tax.  Definitely conservative. 

To be more accurate, he pretended to cancel the carbon tax, but didn't. And says he will replace it with more carbon taxes that will almost certainly be higher - though he doesn't mention that second part out loud. He has, however, on many previous occasions.

[Legato]

11 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Banker economist guy who cancels carbon tax.  Definitely conservative. 

Bankers are just failed economists, arts degree types, definitely Liberal.

[Aristides]

6 minutes ago, Legato said:

Bankers are just failed economists, arts degree types, definitely Liberal.

Carney has a PHD in economics from Oxford. PP has a BA in international relations.

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Carney has a PHD in economics from Oxford. PP has a BA in international relations.

So having a PhD automatically qualifies one to become leader of a country?