Jordan Peterson announces he is moving to America.

[I am Groot]

22 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm pretty sure governments know what the conditions the organizations have in place are for the licences they're giving them authority over.

When governments agreed to let these organizations license professionals neither the governments of the day nor the organizations would dream of intruding into the lives of members to the extent they do today.

22 hours ago, eyeball said:

Peterson knew this when he went into the profession. Like I said, he always was and still is free to choose another.

He'll have no difficulty getting licensed in Florida. If you think they'd challenge him because he doesn't go along with everything the Left says about transgenderism you aren't familiar with that state or its government.

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13 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

 

He'll have no difficulty getting licensed in Florida. If you think they'd challenge him because he doesn't go along with everything the Left says about transgenderism you aren't familiar with that state or its government.

Florida is ground zero for the ridiculous scare tactics right wing politicians use against Transgender persons. We all know that there is no widespread plot by Transgenders, to groom children in public schools, as professed by DeSantis, and far right media influencers.

PS...can you elaborate on what the "left" says about transgenders? 

Edited December 16, 2024 by DUI_Offender

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21 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I'm betting JP was a member long before the psychologists got taken over by far left ideologues who eschew science in favour of whatever is the politically correct flavour of the month.

Can you substantiate your post with facts?

[Michael Hardner]

On 12/14/2024 at 12:27 AM, Moonlight Graham said:

 

Like it or not, and for better or worse, America is the last bastion for freedom in the western world.   

I was just reminded of this statement by you, when I was listening to a podcast called Canada is boring. Some family moved to Russia because they didn't want their kids to be taught to be gay. They said Russia is more free.

So I guess freedom is subjective. What you want to do more, allowed by some place, is more free to you. I remember reading that Washington State had no bestiality laws. Guess what the freedom was there? And people moved there for it. I can't tell where People here are posting from. But at least one of them has a VPN. Not saying anything. 

Anyway, back to freedom. The closest thing to objective evaluation of freedom a series of metrics that independent organizations compile based on certain factors that differ from organization to organization. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices

Canada does pretty well.. this is because we are the most centrist nation on Earth. I never believed that until a bar owner in the East end of Toronto convinced me. He was Asian, and started talking about the countries he had lived in. It was a stunning total. Asia, Scandinavia, Europe, North America. 

Canada is right in the middle he said

 

On 12/14/2024 at 12:27 AM, Moonlight Graham said:

 

 

Edited December 17, 2024 by Michael Hardner

[Political Smash]

Good riddance to that decoy.

[taxme]

On 12/13/2024 at 2:35 PM, DUI_Offender said:

Bye Felicia, don't let the door hit you on your way out.  Canada does not need irrelevant drug addicts, compromised by Russia.

Jordan Peterson says he’s left Canada and moved to the U.S.

FILE - Dr. Jordan B. Peterson in an interview in Helsinki, Finland on November 4, 2018. Lehtikuva / Mikko Stig via CP

Jordan Peterson, the polarizing Canadian psychologist, has bid Canada adieu and will now call the United States home, citing personal and professional reasons for the move. The news was revealed on a podcast this week, where Peterson and his daughter, Mikhaila Peterson Fuller, discussed his decision to move to Florida.

“Welcome to moving to America, formally,” she offhandedly said to her dad during The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast episode.

“I guess that’s what happened, isn’t it? Is this the big announcement?” said Peterson.

“There are decided advantages to being here,” he said.

Peterson made reference to his ongoing feud with the College of Psychologists of Ontario, as well as a bill targeting hate speech, among his key reasons to leave his home country.

“The issue with the College of Psychologists is very annoying, to say the least, and the new legislation that the Liberals are attempting to push through, Bill C-63, we’d all be living in a totalitarian hellhole if it passes,” he told his daughter.

“The tax situation is out of hand. The government in Canada at the federal level is incompetent beyond belief, and it’s become uncomfortable for me in my neighbourhood in Toronto,” he added

source: https://globalnews.ca/news/10916773/jordan-peterson-moves-to-us-leaves-canada/?utm_medium=Twitter&utm_source=%40globalnews

 

 

A man like Peterson that speaks total common sense and logic and what do we get from this liberal imbecile? Good riddance. You Marxist liberals will always knock down someone who tries to make imbeciles like you and others to think with some common sense. Petersen leaving Marxist Canada is probably one of the best things that he has ever done in his life. Too bad it is not Marxists like you that will be leaving for Cuba or North Korea. You will really feel at home in one of those communist countries, comrade. Go, will you, imbecile. 🤣

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Trudeau unveils new campaign slogan: “I Got Jordan Peterson to Leave”

OTTAWA — After disgraced professor and beef enthusiast Jordan Peterson announced yesterday that he had moved to Florida due to the Canadian government’s allegedly woke fascist policies, Justin Trudeau immediately issued a statement saying that his 2025 election campaign slogan will be “I Got Jordan Peterson to Leave.”

“I realize that my popularity has been declining in the polls recently,” explained the prime minister, wearing a hat depicting Peterson’s crying face and the words “Bye, B!tch,” on it, “but I think we can all appreciate that it was my government and my policies that triggered Jordan enough that he had to run away to  country that is kinder to suspected Russian assets.”

“He fully sucked, and I made him disappear,” he continued. “Poilievre wouldn’t have done that for you. He would have made Peterson the Minister of Anti-Cultural Marxist Mythological Maps or some bullshit, on the condition that Jordan always wore one of those Joker suits he loves so much.”

Newly-jubilant Trudeau campaign manager Andrew Bevan excitedly discussed how their team would use Peterson’s announcement to their advantage. “Peterson fleeing to Florida because he was pissed about the government’s dislike of hate speech is the single greatest thing that could have happened to Mr. Trudeau’s election chances.”

Bevan continued, “It outweighs every criticism. Oh, Justin’s had a few scandals? At least there’s no more risk of being lectured by JP on the street about how women are ‘resentful childless harpies’! Justin’s still supporting a literal genocide? Just focus on how you won’t have to read Peterson’s shitty opinion pieces in the National Post anymore!”

“We’ve already begun working on campaign bumper stickers that say ‘Honk if you hope Jordan Peterson gets eaten by a methed-out alligator.’”

At press time, Trudeau has announced that he will force striking Canada Post employees back to work in order to send Peterson a card thanking him for saving his campaign.

See More: Jordan Peterson, Trudeau

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9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I was just reminded of this statement by you, when I was listening to a podcast called Canada is boring. Some family moved to Russia because they didn't want their kids to be taught to be gay. They said Russia is more free.

I read about that. It was a Mennonite family, that moved to Russia two years ago. Apparently they instantly regretted doing so, since, you know, they can't speak Russia, have no family there, have no cultural ties to the country, and never researched the policies of Russia.

The Russian Government initially was more than happy to provide them with supplies, a hectare of land to build a home, etc for propaganda purposes. The man kept making YouTube videos. Then a few months after the move, on one of his videos, he complained about the move, stating he regretted it, and was frustrated about not finding proper accommodations for his large family (a wife and 6 children).

Within days, Russian authorities came to his residence, and demanded he take the video down, under arrest. He did a follow up video, apologising to the Russian people, and stating that he was "no at all regretful to leave Canada." Last I heard him and his family were living in a one bedroom apartment. 

Edited December 18, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

 Last I heard him and his family were living in a one bedroom apartment. 

But at least he escaped the Marxism, where his kids were forced to be gay at school? 🤔

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Within days, Russian authorities came to his residence, and demanded he take the video down, under arrest. He did a follow up video, apologising to the Russian people, and stating that he was "no at all regretful to leave Canada." Last I heard him and his family were living in a one bedroom apartment. 

So the state deemed him guilty of "spreading online disinformation," he arrived unable to speak the language and without the relevant skills to find employment, and as a result of all that finds himself virtually homeless. Certainly has a familiar ring to it eh? 

Sounds like the sort of thing Jordan Peterson has been speaking against. Maybe this guy should have watched a few JP videos, heeded the warnings and stuck around to vote JT out in the next election lest we firmly entrench the same thing here in perpetuity.  

Sounds like he got a taste of what life in Canada would be like if JT gets re-elected. 

 

[Nationalist]

Huh...and you Libbies...and @Michael Hardner...claim you're not fascist in nature. This whole issue with Peterson erupted because he refused to call people by their "preferred" pronouns. He figured that was asinine...and so do I. In fact, the majority of Canadians are "uncomfortable" with all this gender-bending weirdness.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/majority-of-canadians-uncomfortable-about-hormone-treatments-pronoun-and-sports-policies-for-trans-youth-poll-1.6797458

And why? Well Libbies...and @Michael Hardner...the answer is simple. Its down right unnatural. Thus the idea makes people...even in Canuckland..."uncomfortable".

Jordan Peterson has the personal fortitude to stand on what he believes. I've watched many Peterson Youtubes and have read his 12 Rules book. Canada has lost a strong mind with very well developed leadership qualities...while you minority but excessively loud freaks pat yourselves on the backs.

And you wonder why Conservatives despise you so much...

As with the USA...we have told you over and over again...'You Libbies started this bullsh1t culture war, but we Conservatives will end it.' Your little fiefdom is crumbling as we speak/type.

I hope you all thoroughly enjoy the consequences.

Edited December 18, 2024 by Nationalist

[Venandi]

33 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Its down right unnatural. Thus the idea makes people...even in Canuckland..."uncomfortable".

Certainly for some but that wasn't it for me.

Drag Queen story time, compelled speech and forcing communities to fly pride flags pushed me firmly into "hell no" territory. And perversely, the people most likely to rage against my new, far less tolerant self are actually the very ones who caused that change of heart in the first place. 

They will say things like: "well, you don't even know any gay people you homophobic redneck." Which only annoys people who do all the more.

If you work in the airline industry and regularly hang out with any of the male FA's on lay overs you would know that's just not the case. Not only are these folks some of the nicest, and kindest people you will ever meet, some (actually most I think) see this radical militancy as something they fear will work against them. They just want to live their lives, have the same rights and freedoms everyone else enjoys and not be bothered, vilified etc.

Exactly what I wanted for them too. 

The radicals should have just minded their own damn business... or better yet, much better yet, have been condemned and vilified by all sensible people to the point that all credibility was lost. Instead, left wing loons embraced the lunacy and created the backlash we now see simmering.

 

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Certainly for some but that wasn't it for me.

Drag Queen story time, compelled speech and forcing communities to fly pride flags pushed me firmly into "hell no" territory. And perversely, the people most likely to rage against my new, far less tolerant self are actually the very ones who caused that change of heart in the first place. 

They will say things like: "well, you don't even know any gay people you homophobic redneck." Which only annoys people who do all the more.

If you work in the airline industry and regularly hang out with any of the male FA's on lay overs you would know that's just not the case. Not only are these folks some of the nicest, and kindest people you will ever meet, some (actually most I think) see this radical militancy as something they fear will work against them. They just want to live their lives, have the same rights and freedoms everyone else enjoys and not be bothered, vilified etc.

Exactly what I wanted for them too. 

The radicals should have just minded their own damn business... or better yet, much better yet, have been condemned and vilified by all sensible people to the point that all credibility was lost. Instead, left wing loons embraced the lunacy and created the backlash we now see simmering.

 

This is not really about gay folks. Its about the gender-bending Trannies and their virtue-signalling supporters. One of my own sons is gay. Yet he also thinks all this gender-bending is crap. Interestingly enough...he also thinks the Gay pride Parade has gone off the rails and last year, refused to attend with his friends. I'm very proud of the young man he's become and its tragic that all this bullsh1t reflects on gay folks who simply wanna love who the love.

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19 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

This is not really about gay folks. Its about the gender-bending Trannies and their virtue-signalling supporters

How many "gender-bending Trannies" have you seen in person? I'm not talking about FOX News, or some YouTube channel. Personally, I may have encountered a dozen or so Transgender persons in my lifetime, and I live in a city of close to one million people.

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

How many "gender-bending Trannies" have you seen in person? I'm not talking about FOX News, or some YouTube channel. Personally, I may have encountered a dozen or so Transgender persons in my lifetime, and I live in a city of close to one million people.

A few. What's that got to do with the subject at hand?

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8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

A few. What's that got to do with the subject at hand?

It's a "nothing burger." 

The whole issue is insignificant. Transgender people make up 0.5% of the population. Most are on the fringes of society, and there are none that I know of in Western Canada, that have high ranking, or influential positions (judges, politicians, etc). Most see it for what it is- BS propaganda.

[Moonbox]

On 12/15/2024 at 7:07 PM, I am Groot said:

When governments agreed to let these organizations license professionals neither the governments of the day nor the organizations would dream of intruding into the lives of members to the extent they do today.

This is true, and in the early days of Jordan Peterson's fame I supported him and thought he was a pretty smart dude, bravely speaking out against the thought-police at universities etc. 

Since then, he's become a charlatan and a circus act - just a loud grievance peddler cashing out on angst and making notoriety and attention the goal, rather than the consequence of what he says.  

[Legato]

27 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Personally, I may have encountered a dozen or so Transgender persons in my lifetime, and I live in a city of close to one million people.

You may have? You could not distinguish? Well, that explains a lot.

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

They will say things like: "well, you don't even know any gay people you homophobic redneck."

See....

42 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

How many "gender-bending Trannies" have you seen in person?

 

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

It's a "nothing burger." 

The whole issue is insignificant. Transgender people make up 0.5% of the population. Most are on the fringes of society, and there are none that I know of in Western Canada, that have high ranking, or influential positions (judges, politicians, etc). Most see it for what it is- BS propaganda.

If its such a "nothing burger"...why all the noise about it all?

https://globalnews.ca/news/10916773/jordan-peterson-moves-to-us-leaves-canada/

This is a tragic loss for Canada and its all due to the virtue-signalling Libbies.

My disgust with Libbies grows with every passing week.

33 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

This is true, and in the early days of Jordan Peterson's fame I supported him and thought he was a pretty smart dude, bravely speaking out against the thought-police at universities etc. 

Since then, he's become a charlatan and a circus act - just a loud grievance peddler cashing out on angst and making notoriety and attention the goal, rather than the consequence of what he says.  

In other words...you've caved to the virtue-signalling but have no real or verifiable backing for your reasons.

Good on ya.

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

This is not really about gay folks. Its about the gender-bending Trannies and their virtue-signalling supporters

Fair enough, but the radicals and their supporters come from both camps, that group previously even included lots of college aged women who utterly failed to realize that they would suffer the loss of scholarships and championship rings due to their support. Even after being warned about it.  I bet some of them regret that support now too. 

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

How many "gender-bending Trannies" have you seen in person?

Actually a few, but only in the military.

I've previously deployed with one of them prior to their conversion. It's a limited sampling to be sure but from what I've seen they hold the same non radical views as the gay people I referred to in a previous post.

Nary a one of them (from either group) favoured such things as insisting menstrual products be placed in male locker rooms. 

58 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

It's a "nothing burger." 

Statistically the number of radicals is small but they've had a huge and ultimately ruinous effect on the majority... and the majority still remains a small minority of the population with much to lose because of it.

 The radical elements should have been forced into their own life raft, cut adrift and ignored. Instead they ended up being embraced by people who feared a backlash but also feared turning on perceived allies in a cause they only supported marginally.

All IMO of course and the sample size is clearly too small to represent much of anything anyway. But my point was, and remains, that the pending backlash not only was predictable, it was easily avoided. The reluctance among progressives to set radical elements of their group adrift is a huge failing that most conservatives don't share. 

Only now are they beginning to see it, some may even be starting to regret it.

Edited December 18, 2024 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Huh...and you Libbies...and @Michael Hardner...claim you're not fascist in nature. This whole issue with Peterson erupted because he refused to call people by their "preferred" pronouns.  

I'm going to stop right there. That's incorrect. He stated in an interview at the time that he would use pronouns if asked, presumably politely.

2 hours ago, Venandi said:

 

Drag Queen story time, compelled speech and forcing communities to fly pride flags pushed me firmly into "hell no" territory.  

So freedom of expression, tolerance, inclusion make you say hell no? 

What are you in favor of then? What's the alternative?

Edited to add: there are two items there that touch on legal rights 

Maybe I responded too quickly.

What are your positions on forced speech , flags and where is your opposition located?  Ie. Towards whom?

Edited December 18, 2024 by Michael Hardner

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

This is true, and in the early days of Jordan Peterson's fame I supported him and thought he was a pretty smart dude, bravely speaking out against the thought-police at universities etc. 

Since then, he's become a charlatan and a circus act - just a loud grievance peddler cashing out on angst and making notoriety and attention the goal, rather than the consequence of what he says.  

My feelings exactly.

The overwrought drama over this goofy person is deeply telling about the state of our divided intellectual space.  

People's positions matter more than the content of their philosophies.

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3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm going to stop right there. That's incorrect. He stated in an interview at the time that he would use pronouns if asked, presumably politely.

So freedom of expression, tolerance, inclusion make you say hell no? 

What are you in favor of then? What's the alternative?

I think we all know the answer to that, but they say a picture is worth a thousand words, so here it goes:

[eyeball]

26 minutes ago, Venandi said:

The reluctance among progressives to set radical elements of their group adrift is a huge failing that most conservatives don't share. 

🤣 Now that's truly hilarious!

27 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Only now are they beginning to see it, some may even be starting to regret it.

Some of us saw it years ago but that never stopped you guys from insisting once a lefty always a lefty 

As for cutting your radicals adrift I notice conservatives like Liz Cheney and Michael Hardner cutting themselves adrift from you people all the time.

Hey look, there goes David Frum!