It's time for a serious discussion about the future of America

[Black Dog]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Where and when?

Same place and time as that kamala quote in the OP.

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Same place and time as that kamala quote in the OP.

Which was?

[Black Dog]

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

Which was?

Made up. The OP or whomever he was stealing from took multiple quotes from multiple different Harris events and mashed them up to create the impression of a incomprehensible word salad.

If you're hungry for an actual word salad, I got you:

"Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down. You know, I was somebody — we had, Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka, was so impactful on that issue. It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about — that, because look, child care is child care, couldn’t — you know, there’s something — you have to have it in this country. You have to have it. But when you talk about those numbers, compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to. But they’ll get used to it very quickly. And it’s not going to stop them from doing business with us. But they’ll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including child care, that it’s going to take care. We’re going to have, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country. Because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care. But those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I’m talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just — that I just told you about. We’re going to be taking in trillions of dollars. And as much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it’s, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we will be taking in. We’re going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people. And then we’ll worry about the rest of the world. Let’s help other people. But we’re going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It’s about make America great again. We have to do it because right now, we’re a failing nation. So we’ll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you."

Edited October 3, 2024 by Black Dog

[Legato]

12 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Made up. The OP or whomever he was stealing from took multiple quotes from multiple different Harris events and mashed them up to create the impression of a incomprehensible word salad.

If you're hungry for an actual word salad, I got you:

"Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down. You know, I was somebody — we had, Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka, was so impactful on that issue. It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about — that, because look, child care is child care, couldn’t — you know, there’s something — you have to have it in this country. You have to have it. But when you talk about those numbers, compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to. But they’ll get used to it very quickly. And it’s not going to stop them from doing business with us. But they’ll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including child care, that it’s going to take care. We’re going to have, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country. Because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care. But those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I’m talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just — that I just told you about. We’re going to be taking in trillions of dollars. And as much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it’s, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we will be taking in. We’re going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people. And then we’ll worry about the rest of the world. Let’s help other people. But we’re going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It’s about make America great again. We have to do it because right now, we’re a failing nation. So we’ll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you."

Looks like they're both good at it.

[SkyHigh]

2 hours ago, Yakuda said:

LMFAO 

That's an adorable description and is quite possibly true.  I cant believe how stupid you people are. Yes I can 

Who is "you people" and what does it have to do with you waxing poetic using a juvenile concept of time and a primary understanding of metaphysics, without ever even coming close to making a coherent (or any) point?

[Black Dog]

9 minutes ago, Legato said:

Looks like they're both good at it.

Except one was a real quote and one was not.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Yakuda said:

This is a serious topic that will require each of us to consider the moment in which we exist, in context to the past and how the future is a thing yet to be in our present. It comes in the morning but that is not today and the future of our country is in the hands of those who experience the afternoon as tomorrow. Therefore we have to turn the page and agree to work together to work together to address this issue...and to work together as we continue to work, operating from the new norms, rules and agreements that we will work on this together. We got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to have taken this stuff seriously. It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day.

4 years of that. Can you imagine living with 4 years of that?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Except one was a real quote and one was not.

Except one may do it once in a blue moon and the other does it every time she's away from a teleprompter

The left ability to accuse others of what they themselves do constantly is one of their defining traits. Biden was senile and had Parkinson's, and the moment he was gone after screaming to the High Heavens that it was untrue the democrats immediately tried to sell the idea that trump is senile.

Harris does amazing and psychotic word salads all the time. Trump is disjointed once as he's trying to form his thoughts without a use of a teleprompter or any other device and the dems try and sell the idea that he's the one who does word salad. Which is just childish

 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Overly vague.

Are you kidding me? That would be concise, probably even witty by Kamala's standards.

4 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

Did someone just finish their first grade 11 philosophy paper 

Good job!

It's from a Kamala speech. He plagiarized it. 

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

amazingly stupid. <- me

With proper editing, you can even make it look like robo told the truth.

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Overly vague and non-specific. 
However, if you want to work together with people, you need to stop calling them shltheads.  

It's plagiarized from a Kamala speech, shithead. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

 took multiple quotes from multiple different Harris events and mashed them up to create the impression of a incomprehensible word salad.

🤣 You don't have to mash up Kamala quotes to make her look stupid. 

I totally understand that her speeches seem intelligent from your POV, but so do chickens. 

[Michael Hardner]

Amazing progess, team!!!

 

 

[Rebound]

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

🤣 You don't have to mash up Kamala quotes to make her look stupid. 

I totally understand that her speeches seem intelligent from your POV, but so do chickens. 

I know how to use a video editor. 
 

Thing is… Trump says utterly deranged things. Last week, he said that California can solve their drought problem by having Canada turn a gigantic faucet. He’s literally an imbecile.  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

With proper editing, you can even make it look like robo told the truth.

38 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I know how to use a video editor. 
 

Thing is… Trump says utterly deranged things. Last week, he said that California can solve their drought problem by having Canada turn a gigantic faucet. He’s literally an imbecile.  

 

Yeah, that's not actually deranged. We have the water. There has been talk going back to the early 80s about supplying water to america and California from British Columbia and it was seriously looked at to divert the water from the columbia river which is what i'm assuming he's talking about and it is doable.  That is not in any way shape or form derranged.  We have a stunning amount of water in bc,  and there is the columbia river. 

I don't think we'd be interested in doing that.  We would have to sign a treaty and giving up columbia river water has potential problems for us and our own water management in the future. We need it for dams and for our own increasing irrigation issues.  Also it would impact washington state a great deal and oregon.

There are other water bodies which could be tapped but it would cost a lot of money. 

So is it easy and simple? No, it's not. There would be a price to pay.  But is it deranged?  no actually, it's not. Is it likely? No, we probably wouldn't agree. But we COULD, and it COULD be done. 

 

[Five of swords]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You've obviously yet to seriously think about what can be, unburdened by what has been, so you aren't even ready to have a serious conversation about the significance of the passage of time yet 🤣 

I come from a middle-class neighbourhood where people were mechanics and tradesmen and nurses, and people cared about their lawns, so I don't really need to go to the border. I haven't been to Europe yet either. 

Your Fuhrer would wholeheartedly agree if he didn't have to eat poison in a bunker. 

Yeah, I have no doubt he would agree. What's your point?

[Five of swords]

6 hours ago, Yakuda said:

Sadly many Americans have already been infected by Marxism. They live in that dreamy world where everyone is equal and no one ever wants for anything. Except we all end up equally poor.

Well that isn't marxism

[WestCanMan]

50 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah, that's not actually deranged. We have the water. There has been talk going back to the early 80s about supplying water to america and California from British Columbia and it was seriously looked at to divert the water from the columbia river which is what i'm assuming he's talking about and it is doable.  That is not in any way shape or form derranged.  We have a stunning amount of water in bc,  and there is the columbia river. 

I don't think we'd be interested in doing that.  We would have to sign a treaty and giving up columbia river water has potential problems for us and our own water management in the future. We need it for dams and for our own increasing irrigation issues.  Also it would impact washington state a great deal and oregon.

There are other water bodies which could be tapped but it would cost a lot of money. 

So is it easy and simple? No, it's not. There would be a price to pay.  But is it deranged?  no actually, it's not. Is it likely? No, we probably wouldn't agree. But we COULD, and it COULD be done. 

 

I think the main problem with that is some tricky wording in NAFTA. It says something like "Once we put a price on it, it's all for sale".  

[WestCanMan]

48 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Yeah, I have no doubt he would agree. What's your point?

Be honest: do you have a swastika tattoo?

[SkyHigh]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Are you kidding me? That would be concise, probably even witty by Kamala's standards.

It's from a Kamala speech. He plagiarized it. 

Then she doesn't understand time or metaphysics either. I think it's a prerequisite to run for President in the U.S.

[Aristides]

If you lose trust in your institutions, laws and elections, the only alternative is dictatorship which is where all those attacking those institutions are headed, whether they know it or not. This is a crisis for all western democracy. We used to be in the business of trying to spread democracy but now we are struggling to defend it and  its future is far from secure.

[Matthew]

8 hours ago, Legato said:

Harris is as far left as one can get

Clearly you've never talked to a tankie, or likely even an actual socialist.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

🤣 You don't have to mash up Kamala quotes to make her look stupid. 

But you did have to get a video that takes Kamila quotes OUT OF CONTEXT to TRY. Duh

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I think the main problem with that is some tricky wording in NAFTA. It says something like "Once we put a price on it, it's all for sale".  

 well there's a specific treaty for the columbia river between the us and canada called (perhaps not surprisingly) the columbia river treaty, and it details how many gallons of water or whatever canada will allow to flow and it was updated not that long ago. It does have provisions for future negotiations but i doubt bc will be interested in committing to a lot of additional water, and there's serious problems with diverting things stateside that oregon and washington wont' be happy about. 

I mean - not impossible but  "Mechanically" possible if they wanted to. And the last study on the feasability was 30 years ago so they might have some better ways now. Some big water pipeline or something

[Michael Hardner]

6 hours ago, Matthew said:

Clearly you've never talked to a tankie, or likely even an actual socialist.

I feel like there's a rise in ACTUAL socialism happening, quietly in the background just as these clowns try to name-call neoliberal centrists as commies...

 

[Rebound]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah, that's not actually deranged. We have the water. There has been talk going back to the early 80s about supplying water to america and California from British Columbia and it was seriously looked at to divert the water from the columbia river which is what i'm assuming he's talking about and it is doable.  That is not in any way shape or form derranged.  We have a stunning amount of water in bc,  and there is the columbia river. 

I don't think we'd be interested in doing that.  We would have to sign a treaty and giving up columbia river water has potential problems for us and our own water management in the future. We need it for dams and for our own increasing irrigation issues.  Also it would impact washington state a great deal and oregon.

There are other water bodies which could be tapped but it would cost a lot of money. 

So is it easy and simple? No, it's not. There would be a price to pay.  But is it deranged?  no actually, it's not. Is it likely? No, we probably wouldn't agree. But we COULD, and it COULD be done. 

 

I’m sorry, but… abso-f*cking-lutely not.

In the first place, that very same river - the Columbia River - already flows into the United States. In the second place, even if it were enough water and even if the environmental damage of allocating that much water could be remediated, only a total, utter, absolutely unhinged møron thinks you do it by turning a faucet in one single day. You’d need to build an aqueduct many hundreds of miles long, with pumps and tunnels and all that. It’s not quite as much work as building a 600-mile interstate from scratch, but it’s on that scale, which takes a lot more than a day to do. 

Trump simply is not suitable for the job if he thinks you can provide enough water for 33 million people and their agriculture industry by turning a faucet in a day. You don’t solve complex problems by putting the biggest ldiot you can find in charge of 330 million people. 

This is not the first time Trump has made such ridiculous statements. There’s the good old “windmills cause cancer,” which he’s said plenty of time. There’s his “Pledge Allegiance to the January 6 Criminals” that he leads people to. The list is enormous. He needed his daily Presidential intelligence briefings orally summarized because he’s to f-ing stupid to READ THEM.