The fix is in for Hunter Biden

[Hodad]

40 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

• any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means

It's only a federal law which was allegedly broken, and the FEC chair would have testified to the fact that they don't even consider what he did to be a violation of their law. Trump had legitimate family and business reasons for getting that NDA signed. 

You don't have to like the FEC interpretation of the law, but changing it requires legislation, not just a jury with vague instructions. 

No, you daft twat. The NY State code is right farking there in the passage you're quoting. It's been provided and pointed out to you and even linked multiple times: NEW YORK ELECTION LAW § 17-152

The predicate- the "other law" that elevates the misdemeanors to felonies is a NY state law. 

I've linked the jury instructions probably a half dozen times. You've quoted from them. So I know you got there. Just, you know, actually read them.

[WestCanMan]

13 minutes ago, User said:

The narrative that was falsely being pushed was that the entire thing was Russian disinformation, the FBI sat on correcting that lie which in fact did provide support to the Biden campaign. 

Cultists: 

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No, you daft twat. The NY State code is right farking there in the passage you're quoting. It's been provided and pointed out to you and even linked multiple times: NEW YORK ELECTION LAW § 17-152

The predicate- the "other law" that elevates the misdemeanors to felonies is a NY state law. 

I've linked the jury instructions probably a half dozen times. You've quoted from them. So I know you got there. Just, you know, actually read them.

And it's been pointed out to you that you're wrong. And why you're wrong, in extreme detail. But you ignore it as if it doesn't exist. Typical lefty

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And it's been pointed out to you that you're wrong. And why you're wrong, in extreme detail. But you ignore it as if it doesn't exist. Typical lefty

Confirmation bias.

• Confirmation bias (also confirmatory bias, myside bias,^[a] or congeniality bias^[2]) is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.^[3] People display this bias when they select information that supports their views, ignoring contrary information, or when they interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing attitudes.

I think they should rename that "Leftard Syndrome".

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The FBI is part of the DOJ, and they pre-emptively kiboshed the story in the MSM by telling them that disinformation about a laptop was coming.

That means they actively killed an October surprise that was legitimate. And they're part of the DoJ.

You're making a lot of unsubstantiated claims. Do you have any special knowledge about what intelligence the FBI had collected regarding disinformation operations?

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You're making a lot of unsubstantiated claims. Do you have any special knowledge about what intelligence the FBI had collected regarding disinformation operations?

They've been pretty straight up about it. 

[Aristides]

Found guilty on all three counts. So much for that theory.

[BeaverFever]

On 6/4/2024 at 9:04 PM, West said:

-Texts that he's smoking crack on a car the day after purchasing a firearm

-another text shows that he was waiting for a drug dealer.

Still I predict he gets off. America is a messed up place

WRONG AGAIN!!!!

Guilty on all 3 felony counts , in the Bidens’ home state no less

Once again your far right conspiracy claims are disproven.

And the Biden family accepts the verdict like adults instead of screaming conspiracy and pledging to pardon him. Just goes to show the level of maturity compared to unhinged MAGAs

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Found guilty on all three counts. So much for that theory.

What theory? Everyone said he'd be guilty and get a super light sentence.  Then he's back out peddling daddy's influence again and snorting all the coke and banging all the hookers he wants. 

Did you have a theory you hadn't shared with us yet?

[Rebound]

21 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Liar.

• "Judge Merchan has so restricted my testimony that defense has decided not to call me. Now, it’s elementary that the judge instructs the jury on the law, so I understand his reluctance," former FEC Commissioner Bradley Smith posted on X on Monday. 

  "But the Federal Election Campaign Act is very complex. Even Antonin Scalia – a pretty smart guy, even you hate him – once said ‘this [campaign finance] law is so intricate that I can’t figure it out.’ Picture a jury in a product liability case trying to figure out if a complex machine was negligently designed, based only on a boilerplate recitation of the general definition of ‘negligence.’ They’d be lost without knowing technology & industry norms," he continued.

  Smith is an election law expert who Trump has called the "Rolls-Royce" of experts in his field, but he will not testify after Judge Juan Merchan ruled that Smith could speak before the court on the basic definitions surrounding election law but not expand beyond that scope. 

Basically Merchan said that he can read the statutes and explain what specific words mean, but not talk about how it has been interpreted and applied for the past 100 years and why. The last half of that sentence is what he is specifically qualified to talk about.

A lawyer fresh out of law school or a law professor from Puerto Rico could do what they were allowing the FEC chair to do. Then after the FEC chair basically says nothing, the jurors all have to rely on Merchan's biased/purchased opinion of how that law has been interpreted and applied. 

Typical MAGA. You don’t quote the words of the judge, you quote the words of the person telling you what you want to hear. 

You do not understand or posses basic critical thinking skills. 

Here is the judge’s complete ruling on the matter, which includes examples of other cases in which this same “expert witness” was prohibited from testifying as to his opinion.

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/pdfs/Dec on People's MIL.pdf

Edited June 11, 2024 by Rebound

[BeaverFever]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

What theory? Everyone said he'd be guilty and get a super light sentence. 

Not the people who posted on this thread who said he would get off  

 

Why don’t you go on the record and tell us what would be a “super light sentence” and what the proper sentence would be and then We can see if you’re right?  I bet you probably won’t because like most MAGAs you don’t want to be held accountable for your baseless claims when they’re disproven and also you want to be able to claim he got a “super light sentence” no matter what it is. If he received the harshest sentence in history, you’d still want to claim it was rigged and he got a “super light sentence”.  
 

So why don’t you man up and tell us what the correct sentence should be for this offence and a first time nonviolent offender?  And SHOW US THE FACTS that support your claim don’t just pull something made up out of your ass    

[Aristides]

30 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

What theory? Everyone said he'd be guilty and get a super light sentence.  Then he's back out peddling daddy's influence again and snorting all the coke and banging all the hookers he wants. 

Did you have a theory you hadn't shared with us yet?

From the OP

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Still I predict he gets off. America is a messed up place

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Sentencing guidelines for the gun charges are 15 to 21 months, but legal experts say defendants in similar cases often get shorter sentences and are less likely to be incarcerated if they abide by the terms of their pretrial release.

Either way, he will still have a criminal record and his dad has made it clear that he won't get a pardon.

[WestCanMan]

24 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Typical MAGA. You don’t quote the words of the judge, you quote the words of the person telling you what you want to hear. 

You do not understand or posses basic critical thinking skills. 

Here is the judge’s complete ruling on the matter, which includes examples of other cases in which this same “expert witness” was prohibited from testifying as to his opinion.

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/pdfs/Dec on People's MIL.pdf

That was random and stupid, as usual.

From your link:

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You could make a case that the judge himself gets to interpret NY laws, but this is an instance of a NY judge interfering in a federal law where he has no jurisdiction and no experience.

Remember that this judge himself nudged law and common practice aside by bringing federal charges into play in a state court. It stands to reason that in such unusual circumstances they would bring someone in with an expert opinion. 

[West]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

WRONG AGAIN!!!!

Guilty on all 3 felony counts , in the Bidens’ home state no less

Once again your far right conspiracy claims are disproven.

And the Biden family accepts the verdict like adults instead of screaming conspiracy and pledging to pardon him. Just goes to show the level of maturity compared to unhinged MAGAs

Are you now ready to admit his laptop wasn't from the Russian government as you kooks screamed loudly to rig an election? 

[WestCanMan]

34 minutes ago, West said:

Are you now ready to admit his laptop wasn't from the Russian government as you kooks screamed loudly to rig an election? 

C'mon now. Putting the word "Russian" in front of a noun never gets old. 

Russian collusion.

Russian disinformation. 

Russian pineapples.

Cultists: "😱 OMG RUSSIAN PINEAPPLES NOW!?!? WILL THE TRUMPIAN SKULLDUGGERY NEVER CEASE?"

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Not the people who posted on this thread who said he would get off  

That's "West".  One person who said he thought hunter would probably get off (probably mind you) because the us is "messed up".   Everyone else, me included, noted that wasn't likely.  And even West didnt' say he was going to get off, just that he probably would or that he would bet he did. 

LOL - bit of a stretch calling it a theory, but sure - the one guy who thought it was likely hunter would get off turned out to be concerned for nothing  

[Nationalist]

Poor Brandon. His only living son has been convicted and is officially a criminal now. The "fake laptop" story has been blown out of the water, exposing all the Libbie lies and embarrassing all of 'em. Next he'll be tried for tax evasion. Apparently Brandon's brother is in hot water too. Oh Boo Hoo Hoo.

And this is only the beginning Libbies. You wanted to play games with the law...now its being turned back on you.

So sit back and enjoy the circus Libbies.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

C'mon now. Putting the word "Russian" in front of a noun never gets old. 

Russian collusion.

Russian disinformation. 

Russian pineapples.

Cultists: "😱 OMG RUSSIAN PINEAPPLES NOW!?!? WILL THE TRUMPIAN SKULLDUGGERY NEVER CEASE?"

Your cognitive dissonance is so 'Russian', you dunning Kruger! 

[Aristides]

32 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Poor Brandon. His only living son has been convicted and is officially a criminal now. The "fake laptop" story has been blown out of the water, exposing all the Libbie lies and embarrassing all of 'em. Next he'll be tried for tax evasion. Apparently Brandon's brother is in hot water too. Oh Boo Hoo Hoo.

And this is only the beginning Libbies. You wanted to play games with the law...now its being turned back on you.

So sit back and enjoy the circus Libbies.

Too bad you can't apply the same standard for Trump and all his cronies that have been tried and convicted. 

Biden is not playing games. Hunter's prosecutor was a former Trump appointee and Hunter will not get a pardon. Unlike Trump who has pardoned everyone who committed a federal crime for him, mused on pardoning himself and has said he will pardon everyone else convicted of trying to overturn an election if he is re elected.

[BeaverFever]

On 6/5/2024 at 9:28 AM, ironstone said:

misdemeanor that got turned into a felony. Passed the statute of limitations too.

Two incorrect statements 

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

That's "West".  One person who said he thought hunter would probably get off (probably mind you) because the us is "messed up".   Everyone else, me included, noted that wasn't likely.  And even West didnt' say he was going to get off, just that he probably would or that he would bet he did. 

LOL - bit of a stretch calling it a theory, but sure - the one guy who thought it was likely hunter would get off turned out to be concerned for nothing  

You said he would get a slap on the wrist, West and ironstone said he would get off, I don’t think the others opined. 

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Poor Brandon. His only living son has been convicted and is officially a criminal now. The "fake laptop" story has been blown out of the water, exposing all the Libbie lies and embarrassing all of 'em. Next he'll be tried for tax evasion. Apparently Brandon's brother is in hot water too. Oh Boo Hoo Hoo.

And this is only the beginning Libbies. You wanted to play games with the law...now its being turned back on you.

So sit back and enjoy the circus Libbies.

WTF are you thinking here?

Hunter Biden broke federal law.  Why do you believe we don’t want him prosecuted?  Joe Biden could have intervened and didn’t. Joe could pardon him and said he won’t. Democrats aren’t losing sleep over this. In fact, we like the fact that Joe Biden is demonstrating integrity, unlike the POS you cheer on, who has pardoned all of his criminal friends.  

[West]

32 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Too bad you can't apply the same standard for Trump and all his cronies that have been tried and convicted. 

Biden is not playing games. Hunter's prosecutor was a former Trump appointee and Hunter will not get a pardon. Unlike Trump who has pardoned everyone who committed a federal crime for him, mused on pardoning himself and has said he will pardon everyone else convicted of trying to overturn an election if he is re elected.

Except there's actually hard evidence Cunter committed a crime

 

[Rebound]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That was random and stupid, as usual.

From your link:

You could make a case that the judge himself gets to interpret NY laws, but this is an instance of a NY judge interfering in a federal law where he has no jurisdiction and no experience.

Remember that this judge himself nudged law and common practice aside by bringing federal charges into play in a state court. It stands to reason that in such unusual circumstances they would bring someone in with an expert opinion. 

HEY DUM DUM, TRUMP WAS NOT CONVICTED OF VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW. HE WAS CONVICTED OF VIOLATING NEW YORK STATE LAW, INCLUDING NEW YORK STATE ELECTION LAW. THIS WAS NOT A FEDERAL CASE.

 

YOUR FAKE NEWS WEBSITES HAVE BEEN LYING TO YOU AGAIN.

Edited June 11, 2024 by Rebound

[BeaverFever]

1 minute ago, West said:

Except there's actually hard evidence Cunter committed a crime

 

There’s hard evidence Trump did too, including a recording of him talking about committing the crime with someone who was already convicted for their role in the crime and who testified against Trump. 
 

4 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Hunter Biden broke federal law.  Why do you believe we don’t want him prosecuted?  Joe Biden could have intervened and didn’t. Joe could pardon him and said he won’t. Democrats aren’t losing sleep over this. In fact, we like the fact that Joe Biden is demonstrating integrity, unlike the POS you cheer on, who has pardoned all of his criminal friends.  

Biden also didn’t do what Trump did  a bunch of wild conspiracy theories of political persecution and call on his minions to mob the courthouse and threaten the prosecutor and judge either.  Biden accepted reality for what it was and took it like a man while Trump took it like a lying whiny little b1tch. 

[West]

9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

There’s hard evidence Trump did too, including a recording of him talking about committing the crime with someone who was already convicted for their role in the crime and who testified against Trump. 
 

Biden also didn’t do what Trump did  a bunch of wild conspiracy theories of political persecution and call on his minions to mob the courthouse and threaten the prosecutor and judge either.  Biden accepted reality for what it was and took it like a man while Trump took it like a lying whiny little b1tch. 

Uh no.. if anything the recording is exculpatory evidence between a man and his lawyer. 

Facts of the matter is you all spread a bullshit conspiracy theory about Russia somehow fabricating his laptop. Your Intel lied. Very sick. 

Your boy Brennan and the loonies at CNN tried to cover up a federal crime. Very sad

Edited June 11, 2024 by West