ironstone Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 (edited) The law isn't really applied equally in the US. Over the weekend, thousands of pro-Hamas protesters, many of them masked and some wearing green Hamas headbands, descended on Washington, D.C., surrounding the White House amid chants calling for a victory of “jihad or martyrdom.” At one point, protesters with tents set up an encampment on the Ellipse, while others defaced and vandalized historic statues, including the Andrew Jackson and Marquis de Lafayette statues in Lafayette Square. At one point, protesters screaming “F-ck the police!” and “Kill yourselves!” chased U.S. Park Police and Secret Service out of the square after officers tried to arrest someone, after which the square was completely controlled by the protesters. No arrests were made. The day before, on the other side of the country, three teenagers in Spokane, Washington, were arrested on felony charges for driving their scooters over a painted “pride” crosswalk and leaving some tread marks on the mural. Anybody on the left notice something here? I wonder what would have happened if Hamas supporters left marks with their scooters over a 'pride' crosswalk? https://thefederalist.com/2024/06/11/unequal-application-of-the-law-in-america-today-isnt-hypocrisy-its-hierarchy/ Edited June 11 by ironstone 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 28 minutes ago, Aristides said: You are basically against anything that restricts gun ownership. You want to sell everyone guns and clean up the mess afterwards. There was nothing stopping him from buying that gun. Except for.... the laws that are on th ebooks which are the reason for his indictment. *sigh* Can you make this a little harder for us next time? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 11 Author Report Share Posted June 11 24 minutes ago, robosmith said: IF Joe loses, right AFTER the election. Nothing like a big FINGER to the RepubliCONS walking out the door. Why do you keep pretending you know stuff when you're completely IGNORANT of HISTORY. Last time assault rifles (AR style) were banned, gun crimes declined significantly. No Republicans are primarily against nonsensical regulations like a gun registry. As for an AR15 these are semi automatics which have really never been illegal in the US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 3 hours ago, West said: If the Democrats had any integrity they'd be locking up Brennan and the multiple Intel professionals who signed the nonsense about Russia for obstruction of justice Expressing an opinion publicly is not obstruction of justice…maybe it will be once the Trump dictatorship commences, but not as of yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 6 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Expressing an opinion publicly is not obstruction of justice…maybe it will be once the Trump dictatorship commences, but not as of yet. It is if you are acting as an expert. You'd agree that Brennans words would carry more weight than a schmuck like you or I? Why do you let your experts get away with such blatant nonsense and still demand we all listen after they've shown themselves to be phonies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 46 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Except for.... the laws that are on th ebooks which are the reason for his indictment. *sigh* Can you make this a little harder for us next time? What was stopping him? What checks were done on him before he was sold the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: What was stopping him? What checks were done on him before he was sold the gun? Birth certificate with "Biden" on it.. Edited June 12 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 13 minutes ago, West said: It is if you are acting as an expert. You'd agree that Brennans words would carry more weight than a schmuck like you or I? Why do you let your experts get away with such blatant nonsense and still demand we all listen after they've shown themselves to be phonies? It has no bearing on the decisions of Justice officials. They get their expert opinions directly from the experts not from reading newspapers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 26 minutes ago, West said: No Republicans are primarily against nonsensical regulations like a gun registry. As for an AR15 these are semi automatics which have really never been illegal in the US There was an ban on sales of assault weapons from 1994 to 2004 when GW Bush let it expire. https://theconversation.com/did-the-assault-weapons-ban-of-1994-bring-down-mass-shootings-heres-what-the-data-tells-us-184430 Quote During the 1994-2004 ban: In the years after the assault weapons ban went into effect, the number of deaths from mass shootings fell, and the increase in the annual number of incidents slowed down. Even including 1999’s Columbine High School massacre – the deadliest mass shooting during the period of the ban – the 1994 to 2004 period saw lower average annual rates of both mass shootings and deaths resulting from such incidents than before the ban’s inception. 3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Birth certificate with "Biden" on it.. What checks were in place to prevent an addict from buying a gun? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: It has no bearing on the decisions of Justice officials. They get their expert opinions directly from the experts not from reading newspapers It impacted public perception going into an election 1 minute ago, Aristides said: There was an ban on sales of assault weapons from 1994 to 2004 when GW Bush let it expire. https://theconversation.com/did-the-assault-weapons-ban-of-1994-bring-down-mass-shootings-heres-what-the-data-tells-us-184430 If they got criminals like Hunter Biden off the street years ago instead of his dad running cover for him the streets would be much safer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 1 minute ago, Aristides said: There was an ban on sales of assault weapons from 1994 to 2004 when GW Bush let it expire. https://theconversation.com/did-the-assault-weapons-ban-of-1994-bring-down-mass-shootings-heres-what-the-data-tells-us-184430 What checks were in place to prevent an addict from buying a gun? Are you still talking about the president's son - the convicted felon? 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 6 minutes ago, West said: It impacted public perception going into an election If they got criminals like Hunter Biden off the street years ago instead of his dad running cover for him the streets would be much safer How many people did Hunter shoot? 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Are you still talking about the president's son - the convicted felon? I asked you a simple question and I'll ask you one more time. What checks are in place to prevent an addict buying a gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 41 minutes ago, West said: No Republicans are primarily against nonsensical regulations like a gun registry. As for an AR15 these are semi automatics which have really never been illegal in the US Like I said, you are completely ignorant of history. The 10-year ban was passed by the U.S. Congress on August 25, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 13, 1994. The ban applied only to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment. It expired on September 13, 2004, following its sunset provision. Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Federal_Assault_Weap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Like I said, you are completely ignorant of history. The 10-year ban was passed by the U.S. Congress on August 25, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 13, 1994. The ban applied only to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment. It expired on September 13, 2004, following its sunset provision. Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Federal_Assault_Weap... Thanks for the link There is insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of the ban on reducing the overall homicide rate as well as the total firearm homicide rate. 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: How many people did Hunter shoot? I asked you a simple question and I'll ask you one more time. What checks are in place to prevent an addict buying a gun? What does it matter? Coke heads shouldn't have access to firearms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, West said: Thanks for the link There is insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of the ban on reducing the overall homicide rate as well as the total firearm homicide rate. https://theconversation.com/did-the-assault-weapons-ban-of-1994-bring-down-mass-shootings-heres-what-the-data-tells-us-184430 Quote What does it matter? Coke heads shouldn't have access to firearms Of course they shouldn't but you still won't answer what checks are in place to stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, West said: Thanks for the link There is insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of the ban on reducing the overall homicide rate as well as the total firearm homicide rate. What does it matter? Coke heads shouldn't have access to firearms 48 minutes ago, West said: No Republicans are primarily against nonsensical regulations like a gun registry. As for an AR15 these are semi automatics which have really never been illegal in the US 14 minutes ago, Aristides said: There was an ban on sales of assault weapons from 1994 to 2004 when GW Bush let it expire. https://theconversation.com/did-the-assault-weapons-ban-of-1994-bring-down-mass-shootings-heres-what-the-data-tells-us-184430 You said they've never been illegal. YOU ARE WRONG several AR style weapons were ILLEGAL for 10 YEARS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: https://theconversation.com/did-the-assault-weapons-ban-of-1994-bring-down-mass-shootings-heres-what-the-data-tells-us-184430 Of course they shouldn't but you still won't answer what checks are in place to stop it. Your leftist sites are often full of shit. If you actually wanted to make a dent in gun crimes you'd look at handgun restrictions. The problem with talking gun control with a raging leftist is they don't really understand the issue and are force fed bullshit on the issue. 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: You said they've never been illegal. YOU ARE WRONG several AR style weapons were ILLEGAL for 10 YEARS. Several were not during that time jackass. You also made up the nonsense about there being a decline when in fact the evidence is not conclusive There are still restrictions on fully automatic riffles and calling them "military style" is misleading Edited June 12 by West 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 You still can't answer because you know there are none. You really don't care if an addict can buy a gun unless their name is Biden. You rare such an effing hypocrite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 Just now, Aristides said: You still can't answer because you know there are none. You really don't care if an addict can buy a gun unless their name is Biden. You rare such an effing hypocrite. I don't want coke heads carrying around firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 Just now, West said: I don't want coke heads carrying around firearms. What are you willing to do to stop it? Obviously nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: You said they've never been illegal. YOU ARE WRONG several AR style weapons were ILLEGAL for 10 YEARS. Read your own links nutbar - @West was quite correct. The guns were legal, owning the guns were legal, only NEW SALES were illegal during that time. There were still hundreds of thousands of the things in circulation and use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 Just now, Aristides said: What are you willing to do to stop it? Obviously nothing. Today's ruling was a good start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 (edited) 4 minutes ago, West said: Today's ruling was a good start How so? He already had the gun. Do you really think an addict will care about today's ruling? Do you really think addicts never lie? Even you can't be that thick. How many addicts have been prosecuted for buying a gun who's name isn't Biden? Edited June 12 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: THe thing is there's all kinds of laws that got plead away here, tax issues etc. That’s not true. He is still under indictment for tax issues which is a separate case set to take place in California in September. 2 hours ago, West said: Republicans are for responsible gun ownership. This is what we've been telling you jackasses.. the NRA doesn't support crack heads having access to firearms and there are already federal laws in place to deal with criminal behavior. This case was a prime example This very law has already been challenged by Second Amendment activists and likely already headed to Supreme Court https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/09/20/hunter-biden-gun-charges-federal-court-challenges/70864665007/ 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Well that's not true. The ATF investigates firearms violations. Police investigate crimes and criminal use. It’s rare for anyone to be charged with this one particular crime without other related criminal activity like firearm trafficking which is why everyone is saying it’s so hard to speculate what the sentence will be. 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: House arrest till after the election at best. So this is your official prediction that you’ll be held to? Is Hunter Biden going to prison? What to know about the possible sentence after his conviction Tom Dupree, a former principal deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department, told CBS News that he does think Biden will be sentenced to prison, but more likely for a year or two, rather than a longer sentence. Some legal experts have argued that the charges brought against Biden are rare, making the sentencing in the case difficult to predict. Jessica Levinson, a law professor at Loyola Law School, told CBS News that it's rare for the charge to be brought as a standalone charge. And she added that she doesn't expect that the president's son will face the maximum sentence, or that the prosecution would ask for the maximum sentence. Levinson noted that "nobody should expect" to see the president's son "behind bars for a quarter century," though she made clear that some prison time is likely. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/hunter-biden-guilty-verdict-sentence-prison/ Here’s what Hunter Biden’s sentence could look like According to the most recent manual published by the U.S. Sentencing Commission, which sets recommended sentencing guidelines, someone in Hunter Biden’s position would typically face 15 to 21 months’ imprisonment for offenses related to the unlawful receipt, possession or transportation of firearms. From 2019 to 2023, just 52 defendants were sentenced in a similar category as Hunter Biden, and 92% were sentenced to serve prison time with a median prison term of 15 months, according to the commission’s data. About 8% of people in that category received probation or a fine. …According to the commission’s data, a defendant comparable to Hunter Biden who received credit for accepting responsibility would see a suggested range of just 10 to 16 months in prison, and in practice, 30% of people sentenced in that category from 2019 to 2023 were sentenced to probation with no prison time. https://www.staradvertiser.com/2024/06/11/breaking-news/heres-what-hunter-bidens-sentence-could-look-like/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 37 minutes ago, West said: It impacted public perception going into an election If they got criminals like Hunter Biden off the street years ago instead of his dad running cover for him the streets would be much safer Really? Hunter Biden committed street crimes now? Are you suggesting he was out mugging and killing people? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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