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5 hours ago, herbie said:

Perhaps because they too can see reversing it would be the stupidest thing possible.

Not sure i follow , why would changing something that is not working  be stupid...unless that is part of the plan you like, pretending it is working and any other plan would prove that... 

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22 hours ago, eyeball said:

It's entirety appropriate for countries to tell one another to treat human rights universally.

If they don't, they should be shunned. Patron states of misbehaving clients should be sanctioned.

If that was the case Canada would have boat loads of sanctions for human rights violations against it, many human rights violations have been brought up against Canada, and yet no sanction's , why is that...

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41 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

If that was the case Canada would have boat loads of sanctions for human rights violations against it, many human rights violations have been brought up against Canada, and yet no sanction's , why is that...

My guess is that your talking nonsense. Boatloads? How big a boat and load are you talking about? On par with Iran, Burma, Switzerland?

if you're talking about human rights violations against 1st Nations, Chinese labourers or the internment of Japanese Canadians or something we're probably leading the world when it comes to reconciling these.

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On 1/2/2024 at 11:01 PM, CdnFox said:

Not unless you're preapred to go to war over it.

You can make suggestions or complaints but it's called 'sovereignty' for a reason and butting into that ends about as well as getting between a husband and wife with marital issues.

Ask the us if that's caused THEM any problems :)   staying out of other countries business whenever possible is necessary to keep your citizens safe and prosperous.

Meh. Russia and Iran are terrorist states in addition to having abysmal human rights records at home. We should ban Canadians from going there and ban their citizens from coming here (except as refugees). We should also ban all commercial relationships with them.

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6 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Meh. Russia and Iran are terrorist states in addition to having abysmal human rights records at home. We should ban Canadians from going there and ban their citizens from coming here (except as refugees). We should also ban all commercial relationships with them.

But what does that get us? We do all those things and....  countries will still sell them stuff, they'll still be terrorists, but now they will be more likely to target canadian interests and we have absolutely no influence at all to address that other than military arms -  which at this point would basically mean going to ukraine and asking for our stuff back  so we'd have something to fight with.  Or having our soldiers loot the local sporting goods stores for ammo.

Isolationism hasn't proven a terribly effective strategy either as i recall, so what would it achieve?

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On 1/3/2024 at 8:43 AM, Queenmandy85 said:

Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. We express concern about China's intensions towards Taiwan but China see's Taiwan as a province of China just as we view Alberta and Quebec as an integral part of Canada. If either attempted to separate, we would have a civil war. The USA is the same with their civil war. We just have to embrace our hypocacy. We can hope China's recent announcements are just an attempt to influence the election in Taiwan.

Would you rather we fight China and Russia at the same time?

China's fantasies are not related to our realities. I see myself as a sexy, wealthy eighteen-year-old. No one else is required to respect that. Taiwan has not been in any way a part of China for over a century. It is a free, democratic country and we should support them against the vicious tyrant who runs China.

Canada can't fight anyone, however. It has no military to speak of, and they have no equipment to speak of. And even if it had weapons we have no ammunition.

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5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But what does that get us?

Respect as people who back up their beliefs with actions.

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

We do all those things and....  countries will still sell them stuff, they'll still be terrorists, but now they will be more likely to target canadian interests and we have absolutely no influence at all to address that other than military arms

We have absolutely no influence with them anyway. And they will target Canadian interests at any time it seems useful to them. They both already have agents in Canada targeting our interests, and Russia, at least, is, I'm quite sure, working on increasing divisions among us and helping Trudeau get re-elected.

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

-  which at this point would basically mean going to ukraine and asking for our stuff back  so we'd have something to fight with.  Or having our soldiers loot the local sporting goods stores for ammo.

Obviously we should re-equip and expand the size of our military. Perhaps the next government will do that when Trudeau is hauled off to his well-deserved obscurity.

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Isolationism hasn't proven a terribly effective strategy either as i recall, so what would it achieve?

I'm not talking about isolationism. I'm talking about actively making our disapproval known with more than words.

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10 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Respect as people who back up their beliefs with actions.

From who? I'm not sure i see anyone but us caring, Maybe it might motivate some others i suppose..

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We have absolutely no influence with them anyway.

We do.  it's not a lot but sure we do, any time two groups do business to mutual benefit there's some influence.

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And they will target Canadian interests at any time it seems useful to them.

Not really. they are a little cautious, and that's because of the influence we have.

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They both already have agents in Canada targeting our interests, and Russia, at least, is, I'm quite sure, working on increasing divisions among us and helping Trudeau get re-elected.

I"m sure but that's true either way.

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Obviously we should re-equip and expand the size of our military. Perhaps the next government will do that when Trudeau is hauled off to his well-deserved obscurity.

I think it would take the efforts of 3 or 4 gov'ts to bring our military back up to modern day standards. And that's assuming the libs dont' get in somewhere in there and cancel all the contracts as they are wont to do,

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I'm not talking about isolationism. I'm talking about actively making our disapproval known with more than words.

'I'm not opposed to the idea but i'm not sure what it gets us.

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On 12/30/2023 at 8:34 AM, Zeitgeist said:

Tell us about your alternatives.  Do you mean solar and wind that produce so little energy that we couldn’t operate a developed society or even keep our lights on at night,

They think that the amount of energy in the sunlight hitting a roof for 8 hrs on Dec 21 is going to heat the whole house for all of that day and all 16 hrs of the night  🤣

When we've perfected that maybe we'll find a way to capture he methane in our farts to power cars, buses and subway trains.

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48 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

They think that the amount of energy in the sunlight hitting a roof for 8 hrs on Dec 21 is going to heat the whole house for all of that day and all 16 hrs of the night  🤣

When we've perfected that maybe we'll find a way to capture he methane in our farts to power cars, buses and subway trains.

It might if we could store it properly.  It's conceivable that in some areas during the summer months it would produce an excess of energy that you could store and use in the winter months or the like. 

But the energy storage systems we have are no where near remotely efficient enough for that.  We woudl need radical advances in energy storage technology.  Which we will probably have one day. but not today.

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It might if we could store it properly.  It's conceivable that in some areas during the summer months it would produce an excess of energy that you could store and use in the winter months or the like. 

But the energy storage systems we have are no where near remotely efficient enough for that.  We woudl need radical advances in energy storage technology.  Which we will probably have one day. but not today.

In BC we don't get enough sunlight in the winter to make a pot of coffee lol. 

We could probably create enough excess energy in the summer to be useful but by the time we buy and install the panels, buy and install the batteries, we probably spend more money than we'd spend on electricity in ten years.  

I'll probably just go on youtube and find out how to build a miniature nuclear reactor. What's the worst that could happen? 

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3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

In BC we don't get enough sunlight in the winter to make a pot of coffee lol. 

We could probably create enough excess energy in the summer to be useful but by the time we buy and install the panels, buy and install the batteries, we probably spend more money than we'd spend on electricity in ten years.  

I'll probably just go on youtube and find out how to build a miniature nuclear reactor. What's the worst that could happen? 

Well you just couldn't even consider it in the slightest with todays battery tech.  Not only is it too expensive and too massive for practical storage it has a bad habit of bursting into flames that cannot be put out, which makes forest fires look like the better alternative

Someday they will make energy storage a real thing - but till then....

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Well you just couldn't even consider it in the slightest with todays battery tech.  Not only is it too expensive and too massive for practical storage it has a bad habit of bursting into flames that cannot be put out, which makes forest fires look like the better alternative

Someday they will make energy storage a real thing - but till then....

I just don't think that battery power is the way of the future. 

Maybe humans weren't meant to be Gods of travel to the extent that we are today, or maybe alternative energy methods will be created, or maybe we'll find some kind of anti-gravity/inertia hack that makes travel less energy-dependant, but I don't think that batteries can power large masses over long distances at high speeds for thousands of years to come. 

They're a short-term solution at best imo. By 2040 we'll probably have something better to work with. Maybe Hydrogen fuel cells will improve or something. 

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25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I just don't think that battery power is the way of the future. 

Maybe humans weren't meant to be Gods of travel to the extent that we are today, or maybe alternative energy methods will be created, or maybe we'll find some kind of anti-gravity/inertia hack that makes travel less energy-dependant, but I don't think that batteries can power large masses over long distances at high speeds for thousands of years to come. 

They're a short-term solution at best imo. By 2040 we'll probably have something better to work with. Maybe Hydrogen fuel cells will improve or something. 

Well  'batteries' are our current form of energy storage but really when we're talking energy storage we have to think beyond that.   For example - hydro dams are efficient energy storage - we can use gravity and water to store very large amounts of potential energy and use it when we need to.  In that sense the lake behind a dam is a 'battery' of sorts.

there's no doubt new energy creation models are important as well. The elusive plasma fusion, or some species of alternative renewable energy or the like.  However they are working on energy storage solutions such as quantum batteries and the like which would allow us to make use of things like solar and wind far more effectively.

I dont know - i guess it's whatever we manage to get working first :)  

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I suspect we’ll find more efficient ways to store electricity, but we need better ways to produce it.  There are interesting natural sources of electricity that we see in earthquake lighting, etc.  There have been studies showing that pressure on rock seems to cause electrons to leak from the rock, for example.  We may discover that electricity is more easily accessible than we thought.

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2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I suspect we’ll find more efficient ways to store electricity, but we need better ways to produce it.  There are interesting natural sources of electricity that we see in earthquake lighting, etc.  There have been studies showing that pressure on rock seems to cause electrons to leak from the rock, for example.  We may discover that electricity is more easily accessible than we thought.

Let's see if we can convince some of the fine folks here that they have to squeeze rocks for electricity to save the planet lol. 

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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Let's see if we can convince some of the fine folks here that they have to squeeze rocks for electricity to save the planet lol. 

Sigh - great.  Now Herbie just spent the last 26 hours banging rocks together, says he saw a 'spark' with is proof of concept and is applying for a 10 million dollar grant to continue to develop his 'stone voltage' concept.  Says it's also possible that it could be used as a source of ignition which will reduce carbon from producing matchsticks.

Way to waste the  taxpayer's money ya doof :) 

What you SHOULD have told them is you can get electricity from banging a rock against your HEAD.  That wouldn't have reduced our carbon emissions in this country but stupid-emissions would have gone down at least. That greatly reduces global face-palming.

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On 12/26/2023 at 7:06 AM, Queenmandy85 said:

You will find more accurate information on the greenhouse effect in a number of journals in the library and they are free.

Mr. Rosenberger's statement:

indicates he is a communist and anti-Christian. It is the Constitutional role of the Monarch to guide the government.  The term "globalist elite" is straight out of the socialist operating manual. It is a phrase that is anti- conservative. Freer global trade is what makes  the computer you are using and the internet you are communicating with affordable to you. 

Who the phk is Rosenberger anyway? Another WEF globalist elite buffoon by chance? 

Our dear leader PM of Canada is sure showing signs that he is a traitor to Canada. Everything he does for Canada appears to be traitorous actions against Canada and the we the Canadian peasants. The dear leader seems to be more interested and concerned about the rest of the world rather than Canada. 

If the dear leader is so great, then what has the dear leader done for Canada to make it a great country? Can you show me something that this fool has done that was great for Canada? Well? 

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28 minutes ago, taxme said:

Who the phk is Rosenberger anyway? Another WEF globalist elite buffoon by chance? 

Our dear leader PM of Canada is sure showing signs that he is a traitor to Canada. Everything he does for Canada appears to be traitorous actions against Canada and the we the Canadian peasants. The dear leader seems to be more interested and concerned about the rest of the world rather than Canada. 

If the dear leader is so great, then what has the dear leader done for Canada to make it a great country? Can you show me something that this fool has done that was great for Canada? Well? 

I don't know if he is a globalist eleite WEF, but he does sound like a communist to me. He is the author of the book referred to in th OP.

 

 

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On 1/3/2024 at 6:22 PM, Army Guy said:

Not sure i follow , why would changing something that is not working  be stupid...unless that is part of the plan you like, pretending it is working and any other plan would prove that...

I have pointed out the things that need fixing in our Trade policy many times, but reversing it is entirely stupid. Do you wish to go back to the time when our dollar was worth $1.05 and an outboard motor that sold in Seattle for $399 sold here for $1600? To when you got a Zenith 26" TV for 2 weeks wages or enjoy your 75" Sony flatscreen for less than one.
Or is the ability ro buy watermelon in Feb and Dragonfruit at the corner store just so intolerable?

Let's just continue to address the failing of Cdn productivity on the workers and the hypocrisy of blaming everything on the govt not doing more while insisting it should be less involved at the same time.
 

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25 minutes ago, herbie said:

I have pointed out the things that need fixing in our Trade policy many times, but reversing it is entirely stupid. Do you wish to go back to the time when our dollar was worth $1.05 and an outboard motor that sold in Seattle for $399 sold here for $1600? To when you got a Zenith 26" TV for 2 weeks wages or enjoy your 75" Sony flatscreen for less than one.
Or is the ability ro buy watermelon in Feb and Dragonfruit at the corner store just so intolerable?

Let's just continue to address the failing of Cdn productivity on the workers and the hypocrisy of blaming everything on the govt not doing more while insisting it should be less involved at the same time.
 

I went back a number of posts between you two and I still have no clue what you mean by 'reversing it'. I never saw AG mention reversing anything and the post you're replying to just suggests change, which I gather you are in favor of anyway.

Btw, if our dollar was worth $1.05 American I don't see how an outboard motor would cost so much more here than there.

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2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I don't know if he is a globalist eleite WEF, but he does sound like a communist to me. He is the author of the book referred to in th OP.

 

 

So, Rosenberger is just another buffoon that works for the WEF suck. Someone to really listen to alright. Ha-ha.

As long as that dictator hoofus-goofus of a PM of Canada is being allowed to continue to run and ruin Canada, things will only get worse. What is with all of our so called useless politicians in this country that are allowing this fool to keep on destroying Canada. It would appear to me as though they are no better than that fool.

Politicians are and do create all of our problems. A useless bunch of nothingness. They all need to be replaced by people who do care a lot about Canada, and not just want to suck off Canada like those in the liberal and NDP party's do all the time. They appear to be always on the take. A disgusting lot. And then they wonder as to why they are so despised, the fools. 🫢

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10 minutes ago, taxme said:

So, Rosenberger is just another buffoon that works for the WEF suck. Someone to really listen to alright. Ha-ha.

As long as that dictator hoofus-goofus of a PM of Canada is being allowed to continue to run and ruin Canada, things will only get worse. What is with all of our so called useless politicians in this country that are allowing this fool to keep on destroying Canada. It would appear to me as though they are no better than that fool.

Politicians are and do create all of our problems. A useless bunch of nothingness. They all need to be replaced by people who do care a lot about Canada, and not just want to suck off Canada like those in the liberal and NDP party's do all the time. They appear to be always on the take. A disgusting lot. And then they wonder as to why they are so despised, the fools. 🫢

Have faith. Pierre Poilievre will be appointed Prime Minister in just about 18 months. 

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15 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Have faith. Pierre Poilievre will be appointed Prime Minister in just about 18 months. 

IMHO, I believe that the last election was a fixed election. Reason being that i spoke to many people before that election, and they all told me that they despised Trudope. And i can believe that the next Canadian election could be fixed once again. There can be no way that this fool of a PM can ever win another election unless there is fraud involved. We must wait and see. 

We were told that Bidumb won the election in America in 2020. Yet, during that election, Bidumb hid in his basement all the time during that election. Every time Bidumb makes a speech somewhere, there is hardly any people in the audience.

Bidumb gets about maybe a hundred to two hundred people to listen to him babble away. While a Trump rally gets tens of  thousands of people attending his rally. Bidumb did not win the last election. Trump did. The fix was in for old Joe. 

Indeed, i do hope the conservative party wins the next election, otherwise, Canada as we once knew it will be toast. There will be more multiculturalism and diversity, more DEI, more massive people of color immigration, and plenty more of WEF climate crisis nonsense which will make things even worse. The next election will be either for freedom or globalist communism for Canada.

If the latter should win, there will be no way back to the good old days. The deed is done. It will be hundreds of years of trials and tribulations that has been told in the bible.

Just my opinion of course. 😇

 

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3 hours ago, taxme said:

So, Rosenberger is just another buffoon that works for the WEF suck. Someone to really listen to alright. Ha-ha.

 

6 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I don't know if he is a globalist eleite WEF, but he does sound like a communist to me. He is the author of the book referred to in th OP.

  Queenmandy85 should read it.  He is just an ordinary guy who strongly believes Trudeau is a Communist dictator.  He gives a lot of evidence which he says backs up the claim. 

Here is great news.  Go to this website and there is a 24 page preview of the book.  Tons of information in there.

Chinada, an open book... - inkletter

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