Trudeau's Final Solution

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, West said:

Correct I don't want to fund government sanctioned murder.

That's not what I said, which was that you don't want the government to increase funding to address the unmet needs of mentally ill people that were also commented on throughout the article you posted.  Things that would very likely reduce much of the demand and perhaps need for MAID.  That is what you want most right, an end to MAID as an easy way to avoid the cost of better funding?

[Army Guy]

14 minutes ago, PIK said:

We do have stories of vets being pushed that way.

It is true there are bad stories out there, but soldiers with mental injuries can be a****** to the extreme, very difficult to work with.  and can be easily triggered. An A****** is on the light side of the scale being violent is on the other. One of the many benefits of the pandemic was most contacts were through ZOOM. I've seen far too many interactions go bad, over something very small.

I've had no regrets or bad interactions with any Veterans affairs people, they have always treated with me with respect and are very patient making sure you understand everything and are always looking after you are getting the benefits you need or deserve. It all depends on who you get as a case worker. It's like the DMV, sometimes you get a great person, other times you get a D***head. 

[West]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

That's not what I said, which was that you don't want the government to increase funding to address the unmet needs of mentally ill people that were also commented on throughout the article you posted.  Things that would very likely reduce much of the demand and perhaps need for MAID.  That is what you want most right, an end to MAID as an easy way to avoid the cost of better funding?

Who said that? 

Government skimping out ended up costing them in the long run with the economy shut down. Government incompetence was the issue the past two or three years during covid

[eyeball]

51 minutes ago, West said:

Who said that?

I thought you did. Obviously I was wrong to read something so charitable between your lines.

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Government skimping out ended up costing them in the long run with the economy shut down. Government incompetence was the issue the past two or three years during covid

Government skimpiness and incompetence have been business as usual for just about ever.  It's certainly no excuse for piggybacking your bottomless desire to link Trudeau to Hitler on the plight of the mentally ill -  who it clearly goes without saying are the very least of your concerns.

Should the day ever come when you people want to use the excuse that the left causes you too much interminable suffering to carry on any farther I'll be there for you.

Edited November 13, 2022 by eyeball

[herbie]

It wasn't a suggestion by some Doctors, Justin wants to don a top hat, give the injection and rub his hands together as he goes "Muah ah hah hah".

These guys know it, it's a fact!

[West]

42 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I thought you did. Obviously I was wrong to read something so charitable between your lines.

Government skimpiness and incompetence have been business as usual for just about ever.  It's certainly no excuse for piggybacking your bottomless desire to link Trudeau to Hitler on the plight of the mentally ill -  who it clearly goes without saying are the very least of your concerns.

Should the day ever come when you people want to use the excuse that the left causes you too much interminable suffering to carry on any farther I'll be there for you.

Well when it quacks like a duck...

[Nefarious Banana]

Guessing that there's more than a few Canadian citizens pondering a Final Solution for our appalling federal government . . . . . ??

[TreeBeard]

13 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Guessing that there's more than a few Canadian citizens pondering a Final Solution for our appalling federal government . . . . . ??

Yes. The violent nutjobs would love nothing more.  But they’re cowards.  The most the can muster is trying to intimidate women MPs. 

[Nefarious Banana]

7 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Yes. The violent nutjobs would love nothing more.  But they’re cowards.  The most the can muster is trying to intimidate women MPs. 

What are you implying?  The Final Solution is at the ballot box.  Don't you be a coward and get out to vote when the election is called.

[TreeBeard]

5 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

What are you implying?  The Final Solution is at the ballot box.  Don't you be a coward and get out to vote when the election is called.

Dur-hur-hur

[August1991]

10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Calling Trudeau a murderer is fact.

No it's not. Disagree. 

[August1991]

9 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Well, it seems we as a nation have pass legislation that does think that is a good idea. which when taken in the much wider view makes no sense at all. when we look at all the laws already in place to protect them.

 

Good idea?

Make no sense at all? On the contrary....

 

[August1991]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

....The OP is exploiting a serious issue for no other reason than to score an ideological point and the only solution for that is to call it out and voice your disgust.

...

And eyeball, you are doing the same.

But I  am willing to cross the line. Can you?

[August1991]

It is has always been a source of confusion to  me that we Canadians order soldiers to kill foreigners, yet we have no capital punishment and keep our own alive for decades.

If a Canadian doctor or mother kills a child a few seconds after birth - out of the womb, it is murder. But if she or he does it within the womb, it is not.

Indeed, I live while other Canadians die abroad - supposedly because a politician asked them.

Edited November 13, 2022 by August1991

[eyeball]

12 minutes ago, August1991 said:

And eyeball, you are doing the same.

But I  am willing to cross the line. Can you? 

Sure I can, you're completely full of shit and I'm not.

[August1991]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure I can, you're completely full of shit and I'm not.

Eyeball,

I have a different view of this place called Canada.

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Eyeball,

I have a different view of this place called Canada.

Not to mention it's people.

[myata]

12 hours ago, dialamah said:

But of course, simplistic partisanship wouldn't allow for an actual "discussion" of a complex topic

For once, I have to agree. Between left's "we know it best for your own good" and right "God knows best and we speak on their behalf" I wouldn't call a winner. More, sounds and smells to me as pretty much the same thing. We know what's best for you. Just shut up and enjoy it.

[Michael Hardner]

7 hours ago, August1991 said:

No it's not. Disagree. 

Exactly.  I was characterizing the poster's moral framework.

[Aristides]

Suicide is no longer a crime, it never should have been. If someone really wants to off themselves, with or without help, it has to be their idea, not the state or anyone else.

[West]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Exactly.  I was characterizing the poster's moral framework.

Your moral framework is to murder the mentally ill. A very sick person

[DogOnPorch]

8 minutes ago, West said:

Your moral framework is to murder the mentally ill. A very sick person

 

It's just the start of Canada's version of Aktion T4. The longer this Trudeau dictatorship goes on, the more heinous it will become. Sterilization for humanitarian reasons...they'll say. Murder because they care sooooooooo much will be justified and rationalized to the growing zombie public. It is, as you say...sick. But that's the sort of things these new fascists do. Sick stuff.

[Nefarious Banana]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Suicide is no longer a crime, it never should have been. 

Suicide?   Crime?   punishable by death?

[Aristides]

16 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Suicide?   Crime?   punishable by death?

It was a criminal offence in Canada until 1972. 

[Aristides]

38 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

It's just the start of Canada's version of Aktion T4. The longer this Trudeau dictatorship goes on, the more heinous it will become. Sterilization for humanitarian reasons...they'll say. Murder because they care sooooooooo much will be justified and rationalized to the growing zombie public. It is, as you say...sick. But that's the sort of things these new fascists do. Sick stuff.

We do have a Constitution and Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Any laws are subject to them. Don't be so melodramatic.