Will the Liberal plan to bring in 1.45 million immigrants over the next three years be good for Canada?

[myata]

32 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada needs to get out of these international pacts

It's nothing do with international pacts. There are no pacts to increase immigration. A group, elite under pseudo democratic banner in reality de-facto aristocracy can do what it wants, no bounds and controls and now even formal little ones and/or traditions discarded, why bother. So, none. And now it wants immigration. What?

Edited November 7, 2022 by myata

[Zeitgeist]

6 minutes ago, myata said:

It's nothing do with international pacts. There are no pacts to increase immigration. A group, elite under pseudo democratic banner in reality de-facto aristocracy can do what it wants, no bounds and controls and now even formal little ones and/or traditions discarded, why bother. So, none. And now it wants immigration. What?

Canada constantly signs agreements to accept x number of refugees and immigrants.  We always cave because we can no longer make substantial military contributions.  

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, myata said:

1. Ah, you are certain this is a good one. Despite uncounted millennia of experiments always showing the same result: unchecked, out of controls and bounds power is never a good idea. But wait, can't we try one more time?

1. Yes, it was at one time.  It was known as monarchy and noblesse oblige.  There were checks on power, but not like today.  And yes of course we have checks on power today.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada needs to get out of these international pacts that basically turn us into the resettlement zone.  It’s catching up to us.  We won’t be able to reel in these forces of change for the worse.

Which ones specifically ?  Immigration ?

Edited November 7, 2022 by Michael Hardner

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Your post is full of logical errors.  For example, how would you have any idea that the Liberals would hand pick security guards?

Because I'm not a fool.

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Because I'm not a fool.

So you think when the Liberals book a facilitaty for some event, they send a team in to send away security guards that might appear 'white' ?  Interesting.   And you just THINK this happens, right ?  No evidence ?

Why wouldn't they do that for every single position ?  Every event, every employee ?  Obviously they have limited resources so why are they selecting security guards ?  

BTW, non white security guards happen to be a 'thing' in Toronto so they probably don't have to bother doing that here

[ExFlyer]

Bottom line is that it seems all workers have gone underground and employers across this country need people to works so, the government is bringing them in.

Demand and supply. The government can't print people like they print money.

Interestingly enough, the immigrants and refugees all seem to find jobs and housing.

[Moonbox]

Unless people start having more babies, we need the immigration.  Canada's entire economy relies on constant growth and we're still very underdeveloped.  We can talk about where that immigration comes from and who qualifies to get in, but not allowing the immigration isn't a realistic option anytime soon.  

[RedDog]

As usual, they’ll all be from the wrong places and Canadian “culture” will continue to die at the wish of central CanaDUH.

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Your post is full of logical errors.  For example, how would you have any idea that the Liberals would hand pick security guards?

Because "it's 2015 somewhere"? And because everything is about race for them. 

At the head of the Libs and Dems are a bunch of people born as wealthy, privileged brats (Hillary, Trudeau, Morneau, etc in politics, and at the top of the media food chain guys like Anderson "Vanderbilt" Cooper and Chris "Governors of NY" Cuomo) who lecture people like me and you about 'our' white privilege just to court the "darker than a paper bag" vote. 

I don't know about you, but my family came from dark shacks on the frozen prairies, heated by coal stoves and with oil lamps for light, and their privileges included super-fun things like working in coal mines and fighting in wars. Talking to me about my white privilege is like signing up for the Bobby Clarke dental plan.

Yes, I had a better life than my parents and grandparents did, but they built that life with a lot of sweat and even more tears, and I don't appreciate skids like Trudeau & Hillary throwing me under the bus for votes. 

[Michael Hardner]

11 minutes ago, RedDog said:

As usual, they’ll all be from the wrong places and Canadian “culture” will continue to die at the wish of central CanaDUH.

"Wrong places..."  Gee I wonder what exactly you mean by that ?  Oh, wait, I know... ?

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Unless people start having more babies, we need the immigration.  Canada's entire economy relies on constant growth and we're still very underdeveloped.  We can talk about where that immigration comes from and who qualifies to get in, but not allowing the immigration isn't a realistic option anytime soon.  

Only 20% of Canada’s land is arable (can grow stuff) and we’re paving over most of it with development.  For what?  I laugh at the total hypocrisy of the anti-growth (net zero, eliminate greenhouse gas) pro-immigration set.  High immigration is pro growth.  Immigration raises our carbon footprint.

What about quality of life?  Do you really want a Canada where we’re crowded in overpriced endless city along our south?

Chrétien said it best when he said, Who will stand up for Canada?  That Liberal party is gone.  Canadians aren’t in charge of Canada anymore.  Our leaders  have sold Canada out to international interests.  What we haven’t lost in terms of rights during the pandemic we’re now losing in living standards with inflation, carbon taxes, and regulations.  But you’re saving the planet right?  Bring on another half million immigrants…

Edited November 7, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

Only 20% of Canada’s land is arable (can grow stuff) 

That's still a lot, and as the climate warms that space grows.  We're an order of magnitude beyond self-sufficient for food.  

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

What about quality of life?  Do you really want a Canada where we’re crowded in overpriced endless city along our south?

We need to do a better job spreading immigration around outside of the GTA and Vancouver.  We're not overcrowded.  As for quality of life, people won't like the results if our population starts to fall as the baby boomers all retire and need to be cared for.  We're in a demographic crisis and you need only to look at places like Japan to see how low-fertility and negligible immigration combine to torpedo your economy.  Their quality of life is going down, not up.  

If you want low immigration, figure out how to get Canadians to have more kids.  Until then, you're barking up the wrong tree.  

Edited November 7, 2022 by Moonbox

[myata]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Yes, it was at one time.

A golden age, for sure. From some perspective at least, and for some. How to say something without saying anything.

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, myata said:

A golden age, for sure. From some perspective at least, and for some. How to say something without saying anything.

 

You need to be able to entertain an idea and look at the attributes of it with an open mind.  Monarchy evolved gradually and it died when people found a preferrable system.  Isn't it possible that Democracy has similar limits ?  

[myata]

29 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Isn't it possible that Democracy has similar limits ?  

People may find some when they are looking. That act can be essential for the outcome.

[herbie]

they're coming to replace you, wrinkly, pimply, warty dark skinned people clad in goat skins who'll gibber like coyotes outside your windows as they steal your rhododendrons for a side dish they serve beside your roasted pet pomeranian.
they'll steal your job as a custodian and collect welfare at the same time, worship the Old Gods at 2:00 everyday and be constitutionally guaranteed that time off with pay.
your daughter will have no choice but to marry one and wear just a gunny sack if she wishes to fulfill her only purpose of breeding grandchildren you can never be able to even talk to.
they won't live anywhere but downtown Toronto and Vancouver so the gov't will take your house away to build them housing and you'll have to live in an igloo in Nunavut.

[Moonbox]

@herbieThis is brilliant.  Did you write this yourself or get it from somewhere.  Definitely copying it anyways.  

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

they're coming to replace you, wrinkly, pimply, warty dark skinned people clad in goat skins who'll gibber like coyotes outside your windows as they steal your rhododendrons for a side dish they serve beside your roasted pet pomeranian.
they'll steal your job as a custodian and collect welfare at the same time, worship the Old Gods at 2:00 everyday and be constitutionally guaranteed that time off with pay.
your daughter will have no choice but to marry one and wear just a gunny sack if she wishes to fulfill her only purpose of breeding grandchildren you can never be able to even talk to.
they won't live anywhere but downtown Toronto and Vancouver so the gov't will take your house away to build them housing and you'll have to live in an igloo in Nunavut.

 

Funny stuff but it doesn’t help your argument if you’re trying to make one.

[PIK]

Trudeau hates old stock Canadians and wants us gone. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

No it won't be good for Canada if they bring in the wrong people. Who are the wrong people? Those who have no respect for other religions or cultures and discriminate based on gender or have no respect for women or don't believe in human rights or women's rights. In fact they will be harmful for Canada even dangerous for our democratic way of life. KEEP THE UNDESIRABLES OUT. 

Edited November 7, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

they're coming to replace you, wrinkly, pimply, warty dark skinned people

all my immigrant neighbours are Russians

 

[Moonlight Graham]

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

So you think when the Liberals book a facilitaty for some event, they send a team in to send away security guards that might appear 'white' ?  Interesting.   And you just THINK this happens, right ?  No evidence ?

Why wouldn't they do that for every single position ?  Every event, every employee ?  Obviously they have limited resources so why are they selecting security guards ?  

BTW, non white security guards happen to be a 'thing' in Toronto so they probably don't have to bother doing that here

The security guards were employed by Trudeau, not the venue, they were his personal detail.  I literally saw them all get off his campaign bus with him.  He wants to virtue signal that he's a super progressive guy by having an all-POC detail.  That's weird.

His is obsessed with race and gender.  He chooses his cabinet and everything else based on race and gender quotas, he has done the same with both of his picks for GG.  The Biden admin borrowed the tactic and did the same for his VP pick and his Supreme Court Justice nominee, and he admitted as much.  This is what they do.  You're free to deny it all you want, the evidence is everywhere.

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

all my immigrant neighbours are Russians

 

Some people are more equal than other people.  Animal Farm

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Some people are more equal than other people.  Animal Farm

it's the native born Canadians who are the Communists now

it's the native born Canadians who hate their own history & culture

I will gladly stand with my Eastern European Anticommunist neighbours who escaped from behind the Iron Curtain