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6 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I won't argue about what the British Empire was or was not as I regard that to not be particularly profitable. I would point out that regardless of what you might say about its 'multiculturalism' the leadership of the empire was centred in Britain and its people were absolutely not believers in anything but the racial, ethic, cultural, religious, military, and every other kind of superiority of the people of their island over anyone else in the world, most especially 'wogs', which was the generic name given anyone with black, brown or swarthy skin. The Empire and its various peoples, existed to serve the economic and military needs of the British Isles, and for no other reason.

well, that would make you a "White Oriental Gentleman" yourself

not being a native of that Island

Canada existed to serve the economic military needs of the Empire

100,000 Canadians killed to defend Saxe, Coburg & Gotha,

from Flanders 1915 to Holland 1945

 

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11 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

 but I can certainly see where some cultures are worse than others. Insofar as that goes Canada is the beneficiary of the  Enlightenment and the European Reformation and its culture and values derive from that..

but Canadian culture now doesn't even believe in that anymore

Canadian culture now is essentially Socialist,

a product of Hegel & Marx, not Martin Luther

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5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You'll pardon me if I say this reads like a disheveled man screaming into the night as he throws himself this way and that.  It's built on a strawman and then goes on to burn it down while screaming angrily at the sky.

I'll pardon you because I know you're just projecting.

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Now clearly I was speaking about Islam, the religion, not the body of people who make up the congregation, so to speak.

There's no worthy distinction here.  Islam is nothing beyond what the people who follow the faith make of it, which is the same as any major religion, including Christianity.  What the books say is secondary to what the people who follow the faith believe it says, or is meant to say, because that's all that ultimately matters.  Both faiths have sublimely stupid passages in their Holy texts that only the blindest and least thoughtful among the faithful would accept as anything but archaic allegory.    

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Finally, I'd like to note the irony of someone who castigates me for not speaking from logic and reason yet produces dishonest emotional twaddle such as you wrote above.

Yet in your attempt to clarify what you figured was "dishonesty" on my part, you did nothing but reinforce and highlight the foolishness and ignorance for which I was criticizing you.  You may not like that I did that, but there was nothing "emotional" or "dishonest" about it. That's just you projecting again.   

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17 hours ago, blackbird said:

Radical/fundamentalists exist all over the world.  Canada has been a supplier of extremists who have travelled overseas for al Qaeda and ISIS as have other countries. The evidence is there.

Yes I agree.  I never said some aren't radical.  I said they are among the least radical, according to polls of Muslims worldwide about their beliefs.

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7 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Yes I agree.  I never said some aren't radical.  I said they are among the least radical, according to polls of Muslims worldwide about their beliefs.

I don't see a Judaeo-Christian Canada under siege from Islamists

all I see is a godless atheist Socialist Canada attempting to legislate against religion itself

I would suggest that the dangerous religion in Canada is actually Communism

infiltrating under the guise of "Social Justice"

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2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I don't see a Judaeo-Christian Canada under siege from Islamists

all I see is a godless atheist Socialist Canada attempting to legislate against religion itself

I would suggest that the dangerous religion in Canada is actually Communism

infiltrating under the guise of "Social Justice"

I would add to that danger atheist, or agnostic progressivism or liberalism.  They try to equate historical Judeo-Christian beliefs with extreme right wing fanaticism, when in fact if you look at reality, the fanatics today are the progressives and liberals.  We are moving toward an Orwell's 1984 world where old people or people with health conditions or certain beliefs could be simply euthanized.  The final solution.

Biden is starting to talk in a very aggressive way and categorize half of America as the enemy.

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On 9/22/2022 at 2:36 PM, blackbird said:

One of the problems with so-called "multiculturalism" should be very simple to understand.  Canada was founded on Judeo-Christian civilization originating in Europe.  While there are many who have apostate or many false ideas, there were also people who held biblical beliefs down through history.  Many principles came with the European settlers such as the dignity and worth of the individual and gradually resulted in enshrining concepts of human rights, democracy, religious freedom, and the western ideas of the rule of law applied equally to both genders, as well as the equality of the sexes.  This is not the case in many third world countries.

Unfortunately, these Judeo-Christian principles do not exist in many parts of the third world such as Asia, Africa, the middle east, central America.  These are areas where today Christians are heavily persecuted and killed for their faith.  Yet many European settlers who started Canada brought with them beliefs in freedoms and human rights for the individual.  But here we are today having multiculturalism forced on us which results in bringing millions of people in from the third world who do not share the same belief systems where they came from.  If anyone thinks this is not having a negative impact they should think again.  Many of them simply do not understand these historic Judeo-Christian beliefs or why the original settlers held them.  Many immigrants are quite willing to vote for Marxist or Socialist type governments, (NDP and left leaning liberals) and embrace secular humanist ideas that are contrary to Judeo-Christian beliefs.  Some of them don't even understand our Constitutional Monarchy and want to get rid of it.  What would they replace it with?  A dictatorship such as where they came from in Africa, the middle east, or Asia?  So yes, multiculturalism does have a negative influence on society in Canada.

Tell us you're a racist POS without saying you're a racist POS. 

If we let Africans in the country they'll vote in a dictator!!!!!111!!!!1!  

There should be no pre-requisite that new Canadians abide by Judeo-Christian standards. Separation of Church and State is Important. 

Many immigrants have far closer cultural family ties and love of their brethren than any Caker multi-generation Canadian could hope to have. 

We are a country of laws. The slippery slope ramblings that if we let too many immigrants in they'll change our laws is racist hysteria. 

We've been debating the red herring of Sharia Law for 20 years. It's just a Racist talking point. Some in Canada may come here thinking they can subjugate their kin. But those people would also be breaking the laws of the land. And they're also the outliers. 

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1 hour ago, Boges said:

Tell us you're a racist POS without saying you're a racist POS. 

If we let Africans in the country they'll vote in a dictator!!!!!111!!!!1!  

There should be no pre-requisite that new Canadians abide by Judeo-Christian standards. Separation of Church and State is Important. 

Many immigrants have far closer cultural family ties and love of their brethren than any Caker multi-generation Canadian could hope to have. 

We are a country of laws. The slippery slope ramblings that if we let too many immigrants in they'll change our laws is racist hysteria. 

We've been debating the red herring of Sharia Law for 20 years. It's just a Racist talking point. Some in Canada may come here thinking they can subjugate their kin. But those people would also be breaking the laws of the land. And they're also the outliers. 

By calling names you just give more credibility to what I said.  You have nothing else to offer.

Read my further comments.  Not all, but many third world immigrants do not believe in the fundamental beliefs and principles of freedom of the individual, sanctity of private property and sanctity of life.  They come from heathen lands that do not believe in Christianity or the Bible.  In fact much of Asia, middle east, and Africa persecute Christians.  Yet we bring them in here by the millions.  Consequently, they vote liberal and left NDP or for Socialism which is an evil ideology.  The liberal left has a war against Christianity and declare it as extreme right.  This is why the left, liberals prefer third world immigration.  It supports their liberal left ideology.  If you want less freedom and more Socialism and nanny state government, more government control of everything, and more taxation, continue to support that system.

 

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3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I would suggest that the dangerous religion in Canada is actually Communism

infiltrating under the guise of "Social Justice"

Pretty spotty Communists, in that working people are becoming worse and worse off thanks to wealthy landlords and corporations.  

After the economy collapses, though, maybe...

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4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Read my further comments.  Not all, but many third world immigrants do not believe in the fundamental beliefs and principles of freedom of the individual, sanctity of private property and sanctity of life.  They come from heathen lands that do not believe in Christianity or the Bible.  In fact much of Asia, middle east, and Africa persecute Christians.  Yet we bring them in here by the millions.  Consequently, they vote liberal and left NDP or for Socialism which is an evil ideology.  The liberal left has a war against Christianity and declare it as extreme right.  This is why the left, liberals bring prefer third world immigration.  It supports their liberal left ideology.  If you want less freedom and more Socialism and nanny state government, more government control of everything, and more taxation, continue to support that system.

Continue with the Racist BS. Adoption of Christian values is not a pre-requisite to join Canada. Should we ban White Atheists? 

Why is voting Liberal unCanadian? Liberals and Socialism have been around long before widespread multiculturalism. They're political ideologies. And many immigrants from places like Latin America and Africa are more Christian than your average Canadians. 

Europeans also have a history of persecuting other Christians. See Catholic and Protestant wars throughout history. 

 

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1 minute ago, Boges said:

Continue with the Racist BS. Adoption of Christian values is not a pre-requisite to join Canada. You think Atheists from Russia follow the Bible? 

Why is voting Liberal unCanadian? Liberals and Socialism have been around long before widespread multiculturalism. They're political ideologies. And many immigrants from places like Latin America and Africa are more Christian than your average Canadians. 

Europeans also have a history of persecuting other Christians. See Catholic and Protestant wars throughout history. 

 

  I said even bringing the third world in (Multiculturalism)  is bringing the downfall of Canada or helping to change it into a Socialist disaster.

Liberalism, progressivism are working to destroy our western Judeo-Christian civilization.  That is why voting for them is proving to be a disaster for Canada.   

No, latin America is not a source of Christians.  Mexico in fact is listed as one of the countries that heavily persecutes Christians.  Mexico is a country half taken over by murderers and criminals.

We know many things went on in Europe that were unbiblical and anti-Christian.  Catholicism is not a Christian religion.  I never said it was.

But Christian principles existed in Europe which do not exist in the middle east, Asia, Africa, latin America to any extent.  Everything is not black and white.  There are some relatively small numbers of Christians in those heathen parts of world but they are heavily persecuted by the majority.  In spite of the wars in Europe, democracy and human rights exist in Europe and the west far more than the third world.  The UK and west abolished slavery two hundred years ago. There are no human rights or respect for the individual in much of the third world, including Russia and China. 

  Canada is heading toward becoming a more heathen nation and is one to a large extent now.  That means less civility, less respect for the traditional family structure, more crime, more Socialism, continued failing health care system, increased taxation, more government authoritarianism, and more rebellion against parents and authority.  Generally a more corrupt society is what we are seeing.

 

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No, latin America is not a source of Christians.  Mexico in fact is listed as one of the countries that heavily persecutes Christians.  Mexico is a country half taken over by murderers and criminals.

We know many things went on in Europe that were unbiblical and anti-Christian.  Catholicism is not a Christian religion.  I never said it was.

You're full of shit. 

Is America not a Christian Nation because of of the level of Gun Crime and incarceration? 

I'm not a fan of Catholicism but it's the largest Christian sect in Canada. In Ontario there's a separate publicly funded Catholic School Board. 

https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/d/images/thumb/3/32/Religion_in_Canada.png/800px-Religion_in_Canada.png

Should we restrict immigration from Catholics? 

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12 minutes ago, Boges said:

You're full of shit. 

Is America not a Christian Nation because of of the level of Gun Crime and incarceration? 

I'm not a fan of Catholicism but it's the largest Christian sect in Canada. In Ontario there's a separate publicly funded Catholic School Board. 

https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/d/images/thumb/3/32/Religion_in_Canada.png/800px-Religion_in_Canada.png

Should we restrict immigration from Catholics? 

America has huge problems.  The problems are because much of America does not follow God of the Bible.  But as I said everything is not black or white.  America is still one of the best countries in the world and is far superior to the third world. 

Some Catholics who oppose abortion and the liberal left agenda are preferable to the third world immigrants.  If they oppose Socialism, oppose abortion, and respect the sanctity of life and individual rights then they are preferable to those liberals and NDP who do not.  Much of the Liberal government and many other progressive politicians are opposed to God and many belong to the Catholic religion yet support abortion, etc.  That shows it is not black and white even in that religion.  

Unless you have been born again and accept the Bible and Jesus as your Savior you will continue to say BS to everything I say.  So that is your fundamental problem.

 I am not saying we should restrict immigration of Catholics except from central and south America.  They have a history of violence, Communist revolutions, and are a mess.   My preference is to restrict immigration from the third world in general, rather than on the basis of religion.  Immigration should be from Europe, and other western countries like Australia and NZ which share the same western values as Canada and America.

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13 minutes ago, blackbird said:

America has huge problems.  The problems are because much of America does not follow God of the Bible.  But as I said everything is not black or white.  America is still one of the best countries in the world and is far superior to the third world. 

What country does "follow the God and the Bible" to your standard prey tell? 

And how does it show the love of Christ to say that the 3rd World Countries are full of heathens that don't deserve to live in Canada? My parents and my wife's family came from the 3rd world. The whole premise of the Commonwealth is to have countries of different racial and cultural backgrounds united by similar principals. 

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Some Catholics who oppose abortion and the liberal left agenda are preferable to the third world immigrants.  If they oppose Socialism, oppose abortion, and respect the sanctity of life and individual rights then they are preferable to those liberals and NDP who do not.  Much of the Liberal government and many other progressive politicians are opposed to God and many belong to the Catholic religion yet support abortion, etc.  That shows it is not black and white even in that religion.  

You understand that you're deciding what makes a good Canadian by your biased opinions. Which also fly in the face of the policies of Canadians long before the current administration. I feel confident in saying the new Conservative leader would not agree with your opinions. His wife is from Latin America. 

 

 

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Unless you have been born again and accept the Bible and Jesus as your Savior you will continue to say BS to everything I say.  So that is your fundamental problem.

I'm sorry but there is no one agreed upon truth. Anyone who states there is, is part of the problem. I can believe in the Jesus of the Bible, but totally reject some of the cruel social policies from those on the Christian Right.  

For Example, Jesus is pretty clear on non-violence. But Chreestians will continue to justify violence and not turning the other cheek as Jesus instructed. 

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I am not saying we should restrict immigration of Catholics except from central and south America.  They have a history of violence, Communist revolutions, and are a mess.   My preference is to restrict immigration from the third world in general, rather than on the basis of religion.  Immigration should be from Europe, and other western countries like Australia and NZ which share the same western values as Canada and America.

And I'm glad your opinion is that of a fringe racist. You can't even recognize that all the accepted countries/regions you mention have all embraced multiculturalism. 

You wouldn't even be welcomed amongst the current CPC. 

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24 minutes ago, Boges said:

What country does "follow the God and the Bible" to your standard prey tell? 

And how does it show the love of Christ to say that the 3rd World Countries are full of heathens that don't deserve to live in Canada? My parents and my wife's family came from the 3rd world. The whole premise of the Commonwealth is to have countries of different racial and cultural backgrounds united by similar principals. 

 

No country follows the Bible to any great extent.  The world is a fallen place ever since the fall of man back in the garden of Eden.  Consequently everyone is born with a corrupt, wicked heart the Bible says and need to be born again.

The love of Christ is an individual thing between individuals.  But even the Bible commands Christians to be separate from evil and the unclean thing.  See 2 Corinthians chap. 6.

Immigration policy has to be based on what is good for a country and every country has that right and in fact practices what they think is best for their country. 

Frankly I don't care what the Conservative Party believes.  I am an individual with my own beliefs.  If you don't believe an individual has the right to his own beliefs, what are you doing here?

"Legislation in the 1960s and 1970s laid the groundwork for the immigration regime Canada has today, which embraces multiculturalism. In 1967, Ottawa introduced a points-based system for evaluating applicants, after which Canada saw a jump in immigration from Africa, Asia, the Caribbean, and Latin America. A 1971 policy first articulated the government’s support for cultural diversity, and legislation in 1976 explicitly codified Canada’s commitment to refugees, mandated federal and provincial officials develop immigration targets together, and cast immigration as a tool for meeting the country’s cultural, economic, and social objectives."

What Is Canada’s Immigration Policy? | Council on Foreign Relations (cfr.org)

So even Canada has a way of choosing immigrants, even if it is the wrong policy and the opposite of what I believe.

You say the third world has a right to come into Canada shows you do not understand that.  In spite of what liberals and left think, Canada does not belong to the rest of the world.  Every country has a sovereign right to determine who it lets in for their best interests.  Global Communists such as the U.N. don't accept that and want Canada to accept the rest of the world's immigrants.

If you descended from the third world and are not a Christian, then of course you would oppose what I say.  That is logical.  The best solution is for you to study the Bible, particularly the New Testament.  The world in general is a corrupt, fallen place and the only solution is an individual solution, i.e. to believe the Bible and be born again.  Apart from that there is no salvation.

Different racial and cultural backgrounds do not unite people except in evil Socialist systems which is Communist in the sense of being anti-God and communal.  China is a good example where the state, meaning Communist Party is above everything else.  Individuals rights are sacrificed for the Communist system or communal system ( in reality the Communist Party and it's leaders).

I don't care much for what the Conservative Party believes.  That is politics.  Politics is not my guide for life.  If you don't believe an individual has the right to his own beliefs, what are you doing here?

 

 

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8 minutes ago, blackbird said:

No country follows the Bible to any great extent.  The world is a fallen place ever since the fall of man back in the garden of Eden.  Consequently everyone is born with a corrupt, wicked heart the Bible says and need to be born again.

The love of Christ is an individual thing between individuals.  But even the Bible commands Christians to be separate from evil and the unclean thing.  See 2 Corinthians chap. 6.

Immigration policy has to be based on what is good for a country and every country has that right and in fact practices what they think is best for their country.  You saying the third world has a right to come into Canada shows you do not understand that.  In spite of what liberals and left think, Canada does not belong to the rest of the world.  Every country has a sovereign right to determine who it lets in for their best interests.  Global Communists such as the U.N. don't accept that and want Canada to accept the rest of the world's immigrants.

If you descended from the third world and are not a Christian, then of course you would oppose what I say.  That is logical.  The best solution is for you to study the Bible, particularly the New Testament.  The world in general is a corrupt, fallen place and the only solution is an individual solution, i.e. to believe the Bible and be born again.  Apart from that there is no salvation.

Different racial and cultural backgrounds do not unite people except in evil Socialist systems which is Communist in the sense of being anti-God and communal.  China is a good example where the state, meaning Communist Party is above everything else.  Individuals rights are sacrificed for the Communist system or communal system ( in reality the Communist Party and it's leaders).

The more I read stuff like this the less I appreciate Modern Christianity.

You exhibit hate for people because of their political ideology and racial makeup. You only want people in this country that fall into your narrow worldview of an acceptable person. It's, quite frankly, pathetic. 

You have a rigid view of the people you want to share your country with. It's the absolute antithesis of a welcoming loving Christ. 

Separation of Church and State was enshrined in North America's founding principals. But you believe the state should only accept what the church accepts. 

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1 hour ago, Boges said:

The more I read stuff like this the less I appreciate Modern Christianity.

You exhibit hate for people because of their political ideology and racial makeup. You only want people in this country that fall into your narrow worldview of an acceptable person. It's, quite frankly, pathetic. 

You have a narrow view of the people you want to share your country with. It's the absolute antithesis of a welcoming loving Christ. 

Separation of Church and State was enshrined in North America's founding principals. But you believe the state should only accept what the church accepts. 

" 14  Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15  And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. "  2 Corinthians 6:14-18 KJV

Frankly it has nothing to do with race or skin colour but everything to do with beliefs.

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Glad to see Italy elected a conservative leader who rejects the open borders and the woke agenda.  There is a bit of hope there.  Britain rejected the open border concept with Brexit.  Open borders and multiculturalism has already caused a lot of problems in their country.

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What perverted form of warped religion says Catholics are not Christians? I was from the branch of family raised Anglican and all my Catholic cousins are far more devout. No major Christian church claims that nonsense, I only here it from heretic self proclaimed ones in the USA.

By the time you're thirty, you should be able to spot fake Christians easily:
1 - they'll mention how Christian they are more than once in a conversation
2 - they can only quote passages from the Old Testament and blab constantly about Scripture
3 - they hate and despise things/groups/other religions

 

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12 minutes ago, herbie said:

What perverted form of warped religion says Catholics are not Christians?

 

The question is not whether any particular person is a Christian or not.  That is God's business.  The correct question is: is a particular church or denomination Biblical or Christian?  We have to know the answer to that in order to know which church to support or attend.

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The issue concerning any church and its practices should be “Is this biblical?” If a teaching is Biblical (taken in context), it should be embraced. If it is not, it should be rejected. God is more interested in whether a church is doing His will and obeying His Word than whether it can trace a line of succession back to Jesus’ apostles. Jesus was very concerned about abandoning the Word of God to follow the traditions of men (Mark 7:7). Traditions are not inherently invalid…there are some good and valuable traditions. Again, the issue must be whether a doctrine, practice, or tradition is Biblical. How then does the Roman Catholic Church compare with the teachings of the Word of God?

Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15).

Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.

Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians 3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24).

Baptism: In the New Testament baptism is ALWAYS practiced AFTER saving faith in Christ. Baptism is not the means of salvation; it is faith in the Gospel that saves (1 Corinthians 1:14-18; Romans 10:13-17). The Roman Catholic Church teaches baptismal regeneration of infants, a practice never found in Scripture. The only possible hint of infant baptism in the Bible that the Roman Catholic Church can point to is that the whole household of the Philippian jailer was baptized in Acts 16:33. However, the context nowhere mentions infants. Acts 16:31 declares that salvation is by faith. Paul spoke to all of the household in verse 32, and the whole household believed (verse 34). This passage only supports the baptism of those who have already believed, not of infants.

Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7).

Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9).

Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.

Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (1 John 1:9).

Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.

Many other examples could be given. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:11). 2 Timothy 3:16-17 declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
 

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5 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS is anyone else as sick of this Church Lady BS as I am? There's a specific forum dedicated to religion, leave it out of political discussions.
Multiculturalism has SFA to do with religion other than to give none of them a preference.

Anyone who uses Religion as a pretence to decide who should be Canadian, is a bad Canadian. 

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