Biden's Hateful Screed

[Aristides]

6 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I never heard you bitching when the Democrats did the same thing

you only care when Trump does it

because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome

Really? When did Democrats claim there was ballot box stuffing, dead people who only voted Republican, rigged voting machines and all the other BS claims the Trump Cult has been peddling that have not only been debunked by multiple Republican voting officials and thrown out of over 50 court rooms including a Republican dominate SCOTUS.

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Whataboutism is all that remains of moral
reasoning. It's the new universal church. It's
the only way people seem to be able to
process events. Not: is this right or is this
wrong? But only: what about when this other
thing happened? Or: you never said that
about this!
 

Andrew Coyne

 

 

[Yzermandius19]

9 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Really? When did Democrats claim there was rigged voting machines and all the other BS claims the Trump Cult has been peddling that have not only been debunked by multiple Republican voting officials and thrown out of over 50 court rooms including a Republican dominate SCOTUS.

they've done it ad nauseum after 2000, 2004 and 2016

and after the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial election

they bitched about it constantly leading up to 2020

then only after they won was it a conspiracy to question election integrity at all

basically they whine about election integrity every time they lose an election, especially if it's a close

apparently you only notice when Trump does it

 

Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[blackbird]

14 hours ago, Rebound said:

If you read the Bible sometime, you’ll see that homosexuality was not the sin the Gomorrahns committed against Lot and his traveling companions. Instead, their crime was attempted rape.  They surrounded the house Lot was staying in and asked if he would bring the angel to them, so that they may know him. Lot refused, offering his daughter instead. The Bible also recounts that the Gomorrahns gave visitors to their city bars of silver, but they would later attack the visitors, take their silver back, and two everything else of theirs. 
 

The Bible commands Jews and Christians to give charitably, to love one another, to give refuge to foreigners, to heal the sick and help the poor. The Bible commands to forgive all debts every seven years. Farmers are commanded to give the corners of their crops to the poor and to give all of their crops to the poor on the seventh year. Love thy neighbor. Do not practice your faith in public.  The wealthy cannot enter the gates of heaven. 

That idea sounds like it would come from the modernist, apostate churches that preach the false social gospel.

This author in his book exposes the false social gospel:

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1.     Man is not so bad, and God is not so mad.

In his book, The Kingdom of God in America, H. Richard Niebuhr criticized the liberal Social Gospel describing its message as,

A God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.

Rauschenbusch and his followers tended to blame sin on societal structures rather than human nature. According to Kyle Potter in a Georgetown College article, they believed individuals could not leave a life of sin until they were freed from the social and economic situation that drove them into sin in the first place. This view plainly contradicts the Biblical concept of original sin.

2. Cultural restoration is the Gospel.

Social Gospel adherents seemed to believe the Gospel was centered on cultural involvement: if people transformed culture, only then would Christ be revealed. But this understanding of the Gospel is too narrow.

Christians are absolutely called to engage culture—that is the heart of the Cultural Mandate—but the Gospel is larger than that. It is the story of God’s creation, fall, redemption, and the final restoration. Rauschenbusch seemed to over-emphasize cultural restoration and minimize Christ as the agent of cultural transformation.

3. Social salvation is superior to individual salvation.

Conservative theologians saw redemption as a matter strictly between each individual and God, but Discover the Networks says progressives in the Social Gospel Movement,

held that redemption could only be achieved collectively, by means of unified, social and political activism.

Though Rauschenbusch saw individual salvation as important, he always considered it secondary to social reform. In a recent interview with the Gospel Coalition, Tim Keller rejects this notion:

…individual salvation needs to be kept central.

Though the Social Gospel movement has since fizzled, similar theology has appeared in Emerging Church circles today. Pastor Rick Warren referred to the Social Gospel supported by many of the mainline churches as “Marxism in Christian clothing.” But Warren points out we shouldn’t choose between cultural restoration and personal salvation. The Gospel contains both with Christ at the center.   unquote   

Three Fallacies of the Social Gospel (tifwe.org)

Another article says, quote:

Reformation of Individual Human Hearts

The Biblical Gospel of Christ is not centered upon reformation of whole societies of the world, but reformation of individual human hearts. The impact upon society that ensues from reformed human hearts through regeneration by the Spirit is resultant not primal. The genuine, i.e., Biblical, Gospel of Christ, as it is delineated and elucidated in the Word of God, does indeed tangentially mention how the Church—not as an institution or organization, but an assemblage or amalgamation of individual believers—are to reach out past “the four walls” of their local churches to render assistance to the poor, the needy, the oppressed, and so forth, nevertheless, such charitable “works” are not the central and primary message or objective of the Gospel. Rather, they are, as I say, tangential, and a matter of charitable outflow of reformed or regenerated individual hearts. The purpose and intent of such charitable works is to demonstrate the agape-love of God—that “God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life”—not to assume the untenable task and unbearable burden of righting every wrong in the societies of the world and underwrite the financial needs of every person in the entire world.

Word of God and Gospel of Christ Written to Believers

“For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God”

One vital, though at first glance seemingly tangential, fact to keep in mind in this respect and with regard to all aspects of Biblical truth is that the Word of God is not addressed to unbelievers but to believers, except in the sense of providing unbelievers with Truth about and from God to convict and convince them of who He is and how desperately they need Him in their lives and that only He has the power and the plan to save them from the damnation they so richly deserve. To the self-reliant, intellectual unbeliever the Gospel of Christ and the Word of God is pure foolishness, but to the believer it is empowerment and a manual for daily living as well as the after-life: “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God” (1 Cor. 1:18).

God Did Not Obligate the Church to Subsidize the Poor

Jesus, for example, did say: “For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you wish you can do good to them… (Mk. 14:7), but He did not command or obligate the Church to subsidize “the poor” as a people-group, and that the Church should lobby their Federal, State, and local governments to take money from the not-poor in the form of taxes to underwrite government programs to subsidize the poor—not just on an emergent or urgent basis but as a matter of course—for multiple generations, thereby essentially teaching those generations that they do not have to work to earn income to support themselves and their families, but incessantly receive subsidies freely handed out by governments funded by taxpayer-extortion. In fact, as the verse specifically and expressly states, what Jesus said was: “whenever you wish you can do good to them.” Clearly, this was not an obligation or a demand He was placing upon individual Christians or the Christian church at large, but rather He made it clear that it was volitional, i.e., of a person’s own free will, and left to the individual’s own judgment on a case-by-case basis, and not a mandatory or compulsory matter in general.  unquote

What’s Wrong With The Social Gospel? | Spirit Life Magazine

Of course there are many different articles and points of view on what the message of the Bible is.  You will have to study that, but many modern churches have become apostate.  Some of the larger denominations are really into the social gospel and have even gone so far as to ordain practicing homosexuals as ministers.  So we should endeavour to really study this subject and ultimately the Bible should have the final word, as the Holy Spirit teaches it to us.

Edited September 3, 2022 by blackbird

[blackbird]

17 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Why are you obsessed with what consenting adults do sexually?  
 

Because that is what God is concerned about in his written revelation, the Bible.  What goes around comes around to our kids, families, friends, and everyone else.   If you study the Bible's central teachings you will learn about the fall of mankind and mankind's corrupt heart and what can be done about it,  i.e. the salvation that God offers through his Son, Jesus Christ.

Edited September 3, 2022 by blackbird

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

Because that is what God is concerned about his his written revelation, the Bible.  What goes around comes around to our kids, families, friends, and everyone else.

God is not nearly as concerned about it as you are

and neither is the Bible

yet it remains your pet issue

[blackbird]

37 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

God is not nearly as concerned about it as you are

and neither is the Bible

yet it remains your pet issue

No, it is not my "pet issue".  It is one issue of many as far as politics and the world.  But I know it is a central issue with the progressives and radical left/liberals.  Sexual orientation and gender identity is even being taught in schools as if it is the norm and only way to stop bullying, which it isn't.

Edited September 3, 2022 by blackbird

[blackbird]

45 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

God is not nearly as concerned about it as you are

and neither is the Bible

yet it remains your pet issue

Also, don't forget the central issue in the Bible is the sin of mankind which is the rebellion of mankind against God.  That is the central problem in the world today.  Where do you stand on that and what is your relationship with God?  So is God concerned about man's relationship with God?  You bet.   If we are to take the Bible literally, which I believe we are, without salvation billions will spend eternity in hell.

Edited September 3, 2022 by blackbird

[sharkman]

52 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

they've done it ad nauseum after 2000, 2004 and 2016

and after the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial election

they bitched about it constantly leading up to 2020

then only after they won was it a conspiracy to question election integrity at all

basically they whine about election integrity every time they lose an election, especially if it's a close

apparently you only notice when Trump does it

 

Get a load of what Kari Lake said, I think yesterday.

 

The summary would be that questioning 2016 makes you a good democrat. Questioning 2020 makes you a traitor, according to Dems or the MSM.

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, sharkman said:

Get a load of what Kari Lake said, I think yesterday.

 

The summary would be that questioning 2016 makes you a good democrat. Questioning 2020 makes you a traitor, according to Dems or the MSM.

Kari Lake is based

[Chrissy1979]

I'll just leave this here and laugh at the snivelling about Biden being "divisive".

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1565827976331005952/pu/vid/640x360/rrid8TPURunJ9-2M.mp4?tag=12

[Aristides]

19 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Get a load of what Kari Lake said, I think yesterday.

 

The summary would be that questioning 2016 makes you a good democrat. Questioning 2020 makes you a traitor, according to Dems or the MSM.

When did they make claims about  ballot box stuffing, voting machine tampering and dead people voting only Republican

You will notice that Biden did his job, shut them all down and certified the election. Just like Pence only there was no Hillary Cult storming the Capital threatening to lynch Biden for doing his job. Unlike The Trump Cult and Pence in 2021.

Edited September 3, 2022 by Aristides

[sharkman]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

When did they make claims about  ballot box stuffing, voting machine tampering and dead people voting only Republican

You will notice that Biden did his job, shut them all down and certified the election. Just like Pence only there was no Hillary Cult storming the Capital threatening to lynch Biden for doing his job. Unlike The Trump Cult and Pence in 2021.

Wrong.  In 2016, anyone was allowed to question the results. In 2020, you were labeled a quack, and cancelled and or arrested for joining a protest.

 

[Aristides]

Storming the Capital and trying to lynch a VP is not questioning. Multiple Republican election officials and multiple courts debunked the fraud claims but you still won't accept it. The bottom line is the Trump Cult doesn't believe in the US electoral system.

[DogOnPorch]

38 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Get a load of what Kari Lake said, I think yesterday.

 

 

 

I think she could  run for President. Quite the lady.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Really? Worse than claiming your whole electoral system is corrupt?

But hey, neither of those things happened so everything is good. Right.

If you're being honest, the electoral system is corrupt, because the Dems are doing everything in their power to make it corrupt.

They are trying to ban voter ID, allow illegals to vote, they want mass mail-in ballots and ballot farming, they don't want signature matching to be a requirement for mail-ins, they want to allow mail-ins to show up several days after the election, etc. 

Which one of the Dems' proposed changes isn't fraud-friendly, Aristedes? I defy you to name one of those changes and tell me how it improves election integrity... 

[blackbird]

17 hours ago, Rebound said:

If you read the Bible sometime, you’ll see that homosexuality was not the sin the Gomorrahns committed against Lot and his traveling companions. Instead, their crime was attempted rape.  They surrounded the house Lot was staying in and asked if he would bring the angel to them, so that they may know him. Lot refused, offering his daughter instead. The Bible also recounts that the Gomorrahns gave visitors to their city bars of silver, but they would later attack the visitors, take their silver back, and two everything else of theirs. 
 

The Bible commands Jews and Christians to give charitably, to love one another, to give refuge to foreigners, to heal the sick and help the poor. The Bible commands to forgive all debts every seven years. Farmers are commanded to give the corners of their crops to the poor and to give all of their crops to the poor on the seventh year. Love thy neighbor. Do not practice your faith in public.  The wealthy cannot enter the gates of heaven. 

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Sodom, Sodomy, and Sodomites

One of the most prevalent sins in Sodom was the homosexuality of the men, engaging in sexual relations with the other men and boys. Sodom is where we get the term “sodomy and sodomites” named after this widespread sin of the town. After the angels entered the home of Lot, the men of the city surrounded Lot’s house. According to Genesis 19:5, “They called to Lot, ‘Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.’”

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The Bible Story of Sodom and Gomorrah and Its Destruction (christianity.com)

[sharkman]

2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

I think she could  run for President. Quite the lady.

Damn straight.

[ironstone]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

Storming the Capital and trying to lynch a VP is not questioning. Multiple Republican election officials and multiple courts debunked the fraud claims but you still won't accept it. The bottom line is the Trump Cult doesn't believe in the US electoral system.

You clearly didn't watch the video posted above with Kari Lake in which she pointed out that Democrats had little faith in the integrity of the US electoral system prior to 2020.

I've asked this question many times in this forum and have yet to get anyone on the left to admit the Democrats are total  hypocrites in this regard.

And the clips I've seen of Biden's speech tell me that he has absolutely no interest in unity. He'll continue to lie and demonize his opponents. 

I almost forgot to mention that The Big Guy will continue to rake in lot's of cold, hard cash thanks to the thriving family business.

[sharkman]

Lots of cold hard Chinese cash…

[West]

5 hours ago, blackbird said:

Because that is what God is concerned about in his written revelation, the Bible.  What goes around comes around to our kids, families, friends, and everyone else.   If you study the Bible's central teachings you will learn about the fall of mankind and mankind's corrupt heart and what can be done about it,  i.e. the salvation that God offers through his Son, Jesus Christ.

Are you a 7th day Adventist?

[TreeBeard]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

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Sodom, Sodomy, and Sodomites

One of the most prevalent sins in Sodom was the homosexuality of the men, engaging in sexual relations with the other men and boys. Sodom is where we get the term “sodomy and sodomites” named after this widespread sin of the town. After the angels entered the home of Lot, the men of the city surrounded Lot’s house. According to Genesis 19:5, “They called to Lot, ‘Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.’”

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The Bible Story of Sodom and Gomorrah and Its Destruction (christianity.com)

Lot offered up his daughters to be raped instead.  What do you think of that?   Would you do that?

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, West said:

Are you a 7th day Adventist?

No.  Just a Bible believer.  

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Lot offered up his daughters to be raped instead.  What do you think of that?   Would you do that?

I am not in a position to make that decision.  Purely hypothetical.  Many things happened in the Bible which you cannot attribute or blame God for.  It is just recorded as a historical event that occurred.  It is also recorded that David had an affair with a woman and arranged to send her husband into battle where he was killed.  What do you think of that?   Again these are historical events that happened.  Humans are fallible and do the wrong things sometimes.  That is just a fact of life.  The Bible records the good and bad that happened.  The Bible doesn't try to hide them which is further evidence in support of it's authenticity.

Edited September 3, 2022 by blackbird

[West]

59 minutes ago, blackbird said:

No.  Just a Bible believer.  

What denomination

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I am not in a position to make that decision.  Purely hypothetical

You’ve never thought about a hypothetical before?  I think you’re just avoiding the question.  
 

However, it should really be a simple decision.  Anyone who is willing to give up their daughters to be raped by a mob for any reason is an immoral monster.  
 

Why do you think God spared Lot by letting him flee the city?  Do you think He approved of trying to save the angels by sacrificing his daughters?

Edited September 4, 2022 by TreeBeard