eyeball Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 10:14 AM, WestCanMan said: I got nothing FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Nationalist said: What I'm doing...is watching you yarn fables. 1. You most certainly know what Tweenkie is. I have NEVER heard the term applied to a poster before this forum. Must be Canadian slang. The FACT that you're ignorantly claiming I must know what it is, just reveals your unjustified arrogance. Again. Quote 2. I seriously doubt you've proven anyone but yourself wrong. You Tweenkies have been wrong over and over. Maybe in YOUR OPINION, but it is JUST your ARROGANCE which presumes your OPINION is factual. My being wrong is ONLY proven by unrebutted EVIDENCE, which you guys are VERY POOR at citing. Quote 3. You don't care about the markets...but will get back in when you figure the time is right. The silliness is astounding... Again, you DON'T KNOW what you're talking about. i have a 25 year record of successfully getting out of the market at major highs and getting back in at major lows. I quit doing a couple of years into Trump's admin, cause it was just too risky. It must be nice to be so certain YOUR OPINIONS are FACT when they are NOT. Quote 4. Oh I understand what's happening alright. It's what happens when twits think they can save the world. When planks obey edicts that hurt themselves because...insert cause of the moment here...generally Trump. I also understand that it won't work. People may be easy to scare into submission, but threaten their comforts and living style...and they began to question. Enjoy the mid-terms. You mean the twit called Trump who said "Only I can fix it." Well he didn't. You seem to erroneously share HIS arrogance. Let's see YOU post some actual evidence for your opinions instead of calling posters names and ad hominem attacks. Only then will I take you seriously. ? Edited September 14, 2022 by robosmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 8 hours ago, robosmith said: I have NEVER heard the term applied to a poster before this forum. Must be Canadian slang. The FACT that you're ignorantly claiming I must know what it is, just reveals your unjustified arrogance. Again. Maybe in YOUR OPINION, but it is JUST your ARROGANCE which presumes your OPINION is factual. My being wrong is ONLY proven by unrebutted EVIDENCE, which you guys are VERY POOR at citing. Again, you DON'T KNOW what you're talking about. i have a 25 year record of successfully getting out of the market at major highs and getting back in at major lows. I quit doing a couple of years into Trump's admin, cause it was just too risky. It must be nice to be so certain YOUR OPINIONS are FACT when they are NOT. You mean the twit called Trump who said "Only I can fix it." Well he didn't. You seem to erroneously share HIS arrogance. Let's see YOU post some actual evidence for your opinions instead of calling posters names and ad hominem attacks. Only then will I take you seriously. ? I could care less who or what you takes seriously anymore. You Tweenkies would deny you own parents existence, if you thought it would further this destructive path you're on. No...all I care about is the November mid-terms and to witness the dismantling of the Dumbocrat liars and cheats. I want to see proper justice served...cold and harsh. Then...I want to see you strange little fops whine about political persecution. You twits wanted this war. Now you're gonna find out what it's like to get hit back. So again... Enjoy the mid-terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack9000 Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Just now, Nationalist said: I could care less who or what you takes seriously anymore. You Tweenkies would deny you own parents existence, if you thought it would further this destructive path you're on. No...all I care about is the November mid-terms and to witness the dismantling of the Dumbocrat liars and cheats. I want to see proper justice served...cold and harsh. Then...I want to see you strange little fops whine about political persecution. You twits wanted this war. Now you're gonna find out what it's like to get hit back. So again... Enjoy the mid-terms. the dumbocrats? what are you like 18 in a childs body? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 34 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: the dumbocrats? what are you like 18 in a childs body? Lol...tick...tick...tick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: I could care less who or what you takes seriously anymore. You Tweenkies would deny you own parents existence, if you thought it would further this destructive path you're on. No...all I care about is the November mid-terms and to witness the dismantling of the Dumbocrat liars and cheats. I want to see proper justice served...cold and harsh. Then...I want to see you strange little fops whine about political persecution. You twits wanted this war. Now you're gonna find out what it's like to get hit back. So again... Enjoy the mid-terms. What a bunch of crap. After that piece of crap Donald Trump, don’t tell us who started insulting and who started a “war.” That dumbass said that windmills cause cancer, and your people elected him leader of the free world. “Liberals want to destroy America”. We hear that stupidity all the time. Why? Because the mega-rich got Fox News to be their mouthpiece and con the poor into thinking that helping the rich would help the poor. And the result is the greatest gap between rich and poor in our nation’s history, massive, global environmental destruction that’s baking the South, ravaging Florida with tornados and the West with wildfires, outsourcing of millions of jobs to China, destruction of nearly every labor union, erosion of public education so severely that students graduate with debt equal to the cost of a house, and a fascist leader who insulted every person he meets and tried to overthrow the government. You say liberalism is a failure? We had liberalism. We had FDR, and he lead us to victory in WW II in just four years. Compared to that idiot Texan LBJ, Nixon and Bush II, FDR knew how to fight and win a war. And he lead us out of depression, built nationwide infrastructure, created worker’s retirement, and a lasting legacy of middle class prosperity. Liberalism is proven to work, and what destroyed it in America was the racism of Southern Democrats, who couldn’t stand the fact that the Federal government brought an end to Jim Crow. That’s why the South switched Republican and why they stay that way. Edited September 14, 2022 by Rebound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 LBJ was a Democrat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 FDR wasn't a Liberal. He was a Progressive. His achievements are misreported and over amped by a Progressive media and elite political class that followed. He didn't "win the war". The Republican Eisenhower was top General. FDR did help give away eastern Europe to the Soviets causing problems we still face today. He also interred over a hundred thousand Japanese. He's served over the longest recession/depression in America's history. Followed only by fellow Progressive Barrack Obama's. Only the war finally brought America out of the great depression. Then Truman took over followed by the golden years under the Republican - Eisenhower again. And so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 39 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: FDR wasn't a Liberal. He was a Progressive. His achievements are misreported and over amped by a Progressive media and elite political class that followed. He didn't "win the war". The Republican Eisenhower was top General. FDR did help give away eastern Europe to the Soviets causing problems we still face today. He also interred over a hundred thousand Japanese. He's served over the longest recession/depression in America's history. Followed only by fellow Progressive Barrack Obama's. Only the war finally brought America out of the great depression. Then Truman took over followed by the golden years under the Republican - Eisenhower again. And so on... So which is it? FDR good or FDR bad? Eisenhower was far from the only reason why America won WW II. Unlike you, I give credit where it’s due, but Eisenhower didn’t win it himself. For one thing, America’s involvement in Japan was at least as large and we won that single-handed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rebound said: So which is it? FDR good or FDR bad? Eisenhower was far from the only reason why America won WW II. Unlike you, I give credit where it’s due, but Eisenhower didn’t win it himself. For one thing, America’s involvement in Japan was at least as large and we won that single-handed. Many nations besides the US fought the Japanese during WW2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Rebound said: What a bunch of crap. After that piece of crap Donald Trump, don’t tell us who started insulting and who started a “war.” That dumbass said that windmills cause cancer, and your people elected him leader of the free world. “Liberals want to destroy America”. We hear that stupidity all the time. Why? Because the mega-rich got Fox News to be their mouthpiece and con the poor into thinking that helping the rich would help the poor. And the result is the greatest gap between rich and poor in our nation’s history, massive, global environmental destruction that’s baking the South, ravaging Florida with tornados and the West with wildfires, outsourcing of millions of jobs to China, destruction of nearly every labor union, erosion of public education so severely that students graduate with debt equal to the cost of a house, and a fascist leader who insulted every person he meets and tried to overthrow the government. You say liberalism is a failure? We had liberalism. We had FDR, and he lead us to victory in WW II in just four years. Compared to that idiot Texan LBJ, Nixon and Bush II, FDR knew how to fight and win a war. And he lead us out of depression, built nationwide infrastructure, created worker’s retirement, and a lasting legacy of middle class prosperity. Liberalism is proven to work, and what destroyed it in America was the racism of Southern Democrats, who couldn’t stand the fact that the Federal government brought an end to Jim Crow. That’s why the South switched Republican and why they stay that way. Whine...lie...whine...lie. Tick...tick...tick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 43 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Many nations besides the US fought the Japanese during WW2. Australia? You think they turned the tide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Just now, Rebound said: Australia? You think they turned the tide? Australia, UK, China, New Zealand, India, Holland, France, Burma, Canada, USSR and likely a few others I've forgotten. They all did their part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Australia, UK, China, New Zealand, India, Holland, France, Burma, Canada, USSR and likely a few others I've forgotten. They all did their part. None of those nations dropped a single bomb on Japan. The USSR didn’t engage Japan in conflict, and Burma & China had been invaded by Japan for the duration of the war. Australia kicked some ass for sure, and it is respected, but they reported to US command in the Pacific Theater. And that’s the real point: FDR was a master at mobilizing US industry for the war. The scope of the mobilization and the vastness of the manufacturing was unprecedented. No American leader ever came close to the urgency and the energy that FDR out into place. It was absolutely incredible. Edited September 14, 2022 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rebound said: None of those nations dropped a single bomb on Japan. The USSR didn’t engage Japan in conflict, and Burma & China had been invaded by Japan for the duration of the war. Australia kicked some ass for sure, and it is respected, but they reported to US command in the Pacific Theater. The USSR most certainly fought Japan. From the border conflicts of 1939/40 to the Soviet invasion of Japan's northern islands. The Burma Campaign was one of the bloodiest of WW2. Commonwealth troops fought there vs some the Japanese Army's best troops. Americans also fought there, but in much smaller numbers...Merrill’s Marauders and such...Flying Tigers.... There were numerous commands during WW2 in the Pacific. The Australians were part of ABDA (American-British-Dutch-Australian Command) at first before it was disbanded in favor of the SWPA (South West Pacific Area Command). This after the fall of the Free Dutch territories to Japan. MacArthur was in charge of SWPA but it was staffed by people from all the Allied nations involved in the theater. Nimitz held the other main command...Central...which was an almost exclusively US Navy affair...other than the US Army units sent in to replace depleted Marine units. Likewise, there was little presence of Japanese Army (IJA) units...being an almost exclusively Japanese Navy (IJN) operation in that region. Canada's only fighting action during the Pacific Campaign came early at Hong Kong in 1941 where they were overwhelmed by vastly superior Japanese Army formations. Edited September 14, 2022 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 20 hours ago, Nationalist said: What I'm doing...is watching you yarn fables. 1. You most certainly know what Tweenkie is. 2. I seriously doubt you've proven anyone but yourself wrong. You Tweenkies have been wrong over and over. 3. You don't care about the markets...but will get back in when you figure the time is right. The silliness is astounding... 4. Oh I understand what's happening alright. It's what happens when twits think they can save the world. When planks obey edicts that hurt themselves because...insert cause of the moment here...generally Trump. I also understand that it won't work. People may be easy to scare into submission, but threaten their comforts and living style...and they began to question. Enjoy the mid-terms. If you have something intelligent to say, you don’t need to resort to the third-grader playground insults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) My father was RCAF. He spent two years in India and Burma attached to the RAF. Look up 14th Army. Quote In 1945 the Fourteenth Army was the largest army in the Commonwealth and one of the largest armies in the world, with about a million men under command. Some consider William Slim to be the best allied general of WW2. https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/william-slim Edited September 15, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 3:03 PM, Nationalist said: Most of us lean heavily toward truth and reason. You should try it. Says the the guy who believes the totally baseless BIG LIE and supports Putin. Hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: FDR wasn't a Liberal. He was a Progressive. His achievements are misreported and over amped by a Progressive media and elite political class that followed. He didn't "win the war". The Republican Eisenhower was top General. FDR did help give away eastern Europe to the Soviets causing problems we still face today. He also interred over a hundred thousand Japanese. He's served over the longest recession/depression in America's history. Followed only by fellow Progressive Barrack Obama's. Only the war finally brought America out of the great depression. Then Truman took over followed by the golden years under the Republican - Eisenhower again. And so on... 1) FDR was absolutely instrumental in getting America to join the war, over the objections of the “America First Committee” who were prominent businessmen and right-wingers who admired the Nazis anti-socialist ideology 2) FDR Died before WW2 ended. His successor Harry Truman was the president when post-war negotiations with the soviets took place. To suggest that a Republican would have somehow done better is just made up partisan nonsense 3) Eisnenhower was a moderate Republican who continued and expanded upon many of FDR’s big-spending policies that are the basis of what is known as the postwar American golden age and built modem North America infrastructure as we know it. He would be called a “RINO” by today’s far-right extremists. He actively worked to undermine far-right extremist and conspiracy theorist Republican Senator Joseph McCarthy (of “McCarthyism” fame) who would be right at home in today’s MAGA loony bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: 2) FDR Died before WW2 ended. His successor Harry Truman was the president when post-war negotiations with the soviets took place. To suggest that a Republican would have somehow done better is just made up partisan nonsense Nevertheless Eisenhower led the American troops to victory in Europe. Not FDR. After that... Ever heard of the Yalta conference? I'm thinking no. Quote The Yalta Conference (codenamed Argonaut), also known as the Crimea Conference, held 4–11 February 1945, was the World War II meeting of the heads of government of the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union to discuss the postwar reorganization of Germany and Europe. The three states were represented by President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and General Secretary Joseph Stalin, respectively. The conference was held near Yalta in Crimea, Soviet Union, within the Livadia, Yusupov, and Vorontsov palaces. The aim of the conference was to shape a postwar peace that represented not only a collective security order but also a plan to give self-determination to the liberated peoples of Europe. Intended mainly to discuss the re-establishment of the nations of war-torn Europe, within a few years, with the Cold War dividing the continent, the conference became a subject of intense controversy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_Conference The agreement was reached in February. Roosevelt died in April. Victory in Europe was declared in May. Truman walked into a more or less settled deal although he did give Russia chunks of the Japanese empire and veto power in the UN. So that much isn't on Franky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 Hmmm... Seems some of BeaverFever's posts were not replied to, which I guess means conceded. Neither poster mentions that FDR won the war against COMMUNISM, as hardcore socialism was taking root in America via socialism. You're welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 6:41 PM, Nationalist said: Ya horse shite. No matter what evidence is given, you tweenkies simply reject it. OK...these are the rules to debate YOU set. The Democrats and Libbies are dragging the USA down a dark alley. Today the inflation rates came out and are not pretty. The stock markets trashed. Yet to you...all not even happening. So the only rational recourse is to call it for what it is... Irrational libbie horse shite. BTW...I understand Durham is now taking Danshenko (sp?) To court. MAGA President clocked up a massive massive all-time high deficit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 11 hours ago, Rebound said: If you have something intelligent to say, you don’t need to resort to the third-grader playground insults. You mean like the Democrats are doing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 9 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Says the the guy who believes the totally baseless BIG LIE and supports Putin. Hilarious. Beave...find where I said I support Putin...or climb back in your hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Rebound said: MAGA President clocked up a massive massive all-time high deficit. That Biden blew out of the water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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