West Posted April 15, 2022 Report Posted April 15, 2022 How can you be a conservative and support either of these guys? 1 Quote
scribblet Posted April 17, 2022 Report Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) PP is pulling big crowds as he appeals to the worker bees, he is more of a libertarian but other than the crypto currency thing I like him. Quote Pierre is no Radical Poilievre, the adopted son of schoolteachers from Saskatchewan, was born and raised in Calgary. He’s got a pulse for what matters in Western Canada and a record of winning his Ottawa-area seat 7 consecutive times. He’s married to a Venezuelan refugee and is the proud father of two children. He’s smart, bilingual, the finest orator in the House of Commons, and well-read with a deep sense of Canada’s history. This is the kind of public servant Canadians should want serving in high office. Critics portray Mr. Poilievre as an extremist who presents an approach that is out of step with mainstream Canadian voters. Nothing could be further from the truth. On social issues, Poilievre was recently quoted saying: “You can marry who you want, make your own personal decisions with minimal interference by the state and maximal freedom for individuals and families.” It’s as if Poilievre was drawing inspiration from Pierre Trudeau, who famously said, “the state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation.” During this leadership campaign, Poilievre has talked about securing borders, protecting people and property from crime, building economic and public infrastructure, and providing for those who are unable to provide for themselves. He favours lowering the tax burden to empower all Canadians. In ending the war on work, Poilievre has committed to ending clawbacks, payroll taxes, and other penalties that punish middle-income workers. He’s also articulated a detailed plan to speed up foreign credential recognition, including loans for nearly qualified immigrants to provide resources for credential testing. As a Member of Parliament, he’s championed the rights of disabled workers with his Opportunity for Workers with Disabilities Act, building on the legacy left by former finance minister Jim Flaherty. Regarding Canada’s First Nations, he’s pledged more control over land, economic opportunity, and decision making. And on oil and gas — Canada’s greatest natural resource — he’s promised to remove the barriers that will bring these resources to market. No other reasonable country in the world would leave this much wealth in the ground, so why should Canada? Poilievre’s plan is hardly the stuff of an extremist revolution. But can he win the country? The Case for Poilievre. Why Poilievre is right choice for… | by Regan P. Watts | Apr, 2022 | Medium Edited April 17, 2022 by scribblet 1 Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
August1991 Posted April 17, 2022 Author Report Posted April 17, 2022 On 4/15/2022 at 12:20 PM, West said: How can you be a conservative and support either of these guys? Good question. ==== West, I reckon that you confuse "conservative" with "libertarian". Quote
Nationalist Posted April 17, 2022 Report Posted April 17, 2022 I still don't know who I'll vote for, but Poilievre is the best the Conservatives offer right now. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
500channelsurfer Posted April 17, 2022 Report Posted April 17, 2022 Jean Charest was the real hero of the 1995 referendum. While Chrétien and the Liberals were making the sponsorship scandal, Charest organized a massive pro-Canada unity rally and got participation from people in all provinces. Charest would appeal to those voters undecided between Liberal and Conservative in an election. However, Charest is tied to Mulroney strings, I live in Quebec and while Charest was Premier, the almost entire province voted NDP federally and he picked a political fight with students resulting in university closings and mass demonstrations throughout the province. Quote
eyeball Posted April 17, 2022 Report Posted April 17, 2022 I won't be voting for anyone - I'll be voting against consertvatism in whatever shape and form it presents itself. Naturally that completely rules out the Liberals. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted April 17, 2022 Report Posted April 17, 2022 Piolievre is the person most suited to lead this country. Hopefully Brad Wall joins the federal party and eventually leads the country, or maybe Dr Lewis will be ready one day, but right now it's PP by a landslide. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Jack9000 Posted April 17, 2022 Report Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) PP will destroy this country especially east of ontario. Charest by a mile PP is a slimeball and basically a trump jr. Edited April 17, 2022 by Jack9000 Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
West Posted April 18, 2022 Report Posted April 18, 2022 18 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Piolievre is the person most suited to lead this country. Hopefully Brad Wall joins the federal party and eventually leads the country, or maybe Dr Lewis will be ready one day, but right now it's PP by a landslide. I've been thoroughly disappointed in the Sask Party. They give the illusion of being conservative but are far from it Quote
West Posted April 18, 2022 Report Posted April 18, 2022 On 4/16/2022 at 11:52 PM, August1991 said: Good question. ==== West, I reckon that you confuse "conservative" with "libertarian". What I see with today's "conservatives" is they'll toss their values as they are too afraid to be called names. Liberals will liberal. I don't think critical race theory appeals to people outside the fringe left. Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted April 18, 2022 Report Posted April 18, 2022 18 hours ago, Jack9000 said: PP will destroy this country especially east of ontario. Charest by a mile PP is a slimeball and basically a trump jr. The east coast is basically 'third world' . . . It's predictable that you'd dislike anything that would disrupt that welfare state you lounge in for 60% of the year. Why the 'slimeball' label for Pierre Poilivere when other contributing citizens of Canada would apply that moniker to you and your 'slack-assed' life style? 2 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 18, 2022 Report Posted April 18, 2022 20 hours ago, Jack9000 said: PP will destroy this country especially east of ontario. Care to explain? Quote PP is a slimeball and basically a trump jr. PP is the strongest, most vocal critic of Trudeau's scandals and all of the LPOC buffoonery & stupidity that's ruining our country. There's nothing at all that's slimy about him, you're just a butt-hurt Trudeau apologist without any actual reasonable criticisms of Poilievre at all. FYI the only decent, democratic operators in the LPOC stood up to Trudeau and left long ago. There's nothing left but scum. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Army Guy Posted April 18, 2022 Report Posted April 18, 2022 21 hours ago, Jack9000 said: PP will destroy this country especially east of ontario. Charest by a mile PP is a slimeball and basically a trump jr. You know this for a fact or are you pulling things from your ass again...people have had enough of Justin and they want change, if that scares you start digging that hole now... he is coming for ya, and all your social programs... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Jack9000 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said: The east coast is basically 'third world' . . . It's predictable that you'd dislike anything that would disrupt that welfare state you lounge in for 60% of the year. Why the 'slimeball' label for Pierre Poilivere when other contributing citizens of Canada would apply that moniker to you and your 'slack-assed' life style? Lol ? insulting us then you wonder why we won't vote for your more right wing leaders like Harper Scheer or pp. hey I am willing to vote con just give us a decent leader like Charest or brown and I will atleast consider it . Edited April 18, 2022 by Jack9000 Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Jack9000 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Care to explain? PP is the strongest, most vocal critic of Trudeau's scandals and all of the LPOC buffoonery & stupidity that's ruining our country. There's nothing at all that's slimy about him, you're just a butt-hurt Trudeau apologist without any actual reasonable criticisms of Poilievre at all. FYI the only decent, democratic operators in the LPOC stood up to Trudeau and left long ago. There's nothing left but scum. Lol all pp does is complain about things Trudeau has done he offers no solutions dude get real Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Jack9000 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: You know this for a fact or are you pulling things from your ass again...people have had enough of Justin and they want change, if that scares you start digging that hole now... he is coming for ya, and all your social programs... Lol yea cut social programs isn't best thing to run on alot of people use em not all people on a nice pension like you Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Moonbox Posted April 18, 2022 Report Posted April 18, 2022 4 hours ago, West said: Liberals will liberal. I don't think critical race theory appeals to people outside the fringe left. Critical race theory is a farcical strawman that ignorant fools hold up and argue against and little more than that. You'd be hard-pressed to find someone in politics actually promoting critical race theory, but that doesn't stop the MAGA window-lickers from fantasizing about this bogeyman. As for PP, he'll not win an election. He can certainly win the leadership of the the CPC based on the voting membership, but he's dead-on-arrival for winning PM. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Nationalist Posted April 19, 2022 Report Posted April 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Moonbox said: Critical race theory is a farcical strawman that ignorant fools hold up and argue against and little more than that. You'd be hard-pressed to find someone in politics actually promoting critical race theory, but that doesn't stop the MAGA window-lickers from fantasizing about this bogeyman. As for PP, he'll not win an election. He can certainly win the leadership of the the CPC based on the voting membership, but he's dead-on-arrival for winning PM. https://csps-efpc.gc.ca/anti-racism-eng.aspx Hi there Libbie-licker. Tryin' t' warp reality again I see....good good...wouldn't want to see you grow a conscience. Have a nice evening sweetie-pie... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
West Posted April 19, 2022 Report Posted April 19, 2022 Joseph Bourgault is the only common sense one in the race. Quote
West Posted April 19, 2022 Report Posted April 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Moonbox said: Critical race theory is a farcical strawman that ignorant fools hold up and argue against and little more than that. You'd be hard-pressed to find someone in politics actually promoting critical race theory, but that doesn't stop the MAGA window-lickers from fantasizing about this bogeyman. As for PP, he'll not win an election. He can certainly win the leadership of the the CPC based on the voting membership, but he's dead-on-arrival for winning PM. Nonsense. Liberal MPs have said children must study CRT. https://tnc.news/2021/12/01/canada-needs-kids-to-study-critical-race-theory-liberal-mp/ Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 20, 2022 Report Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 1:39 PM, Jack9000 said: Lol all pp does is complain about things Trudeau has done he offers no solutions dude get real I think an obvious solution is "Stop doing retarded things". Canada wasn't brken when Trudeau came here. He didn't have to screw around with things that were beyond his understanding. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Moonbox Posted April 20, 2022 Report Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 11:48 PM, West said: Nonsense. Liberal MPs have said children must study CRT. https://tnc.news/2021/12/01/canada-needs-kids-to-study-critical-race-theory-liberal-mp/ loool okay fair enough. That's the first time I've actually seen a politician promote it specifically anywhere. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
West Posted April 20, 2022 Report Posted April 20, 2022 55 minutes ago, Moonbox said: loool okay fair enough. That's the first time I've actually seen a politician promote it specifically anywhere. You've been hiding under a rock then. Quote
August1991 Posted April 21, 2022 Author Report Posted April 21, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 11:42 AM, West said: What I see with today's "conservatives" is they'll toss their values as they are too afraid to be called names. Liberals will liberal. I don't think critical race theory appeals to people outside the fringe left. Been there, done that. ===== Libertarians favour individual freedom. Trans, gay, whatever.... Progressives choose immediate change. Conservatives favour slow change. Quote
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