Nationalist Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Moonbox said: I saw the Emergencies Act as an abuse and I wish Trudeau wasn't PM. Yes. A literal assault? Come on. If you want to make an adult argument then let's hear it, but if you can't write three sentences without derailing into hyperbole, nobody's going to listen to you. Yes...an assault. If you look the word up, you'll see it fits perfectly. There have been multiple assaults on Canadians over the last decade or so. Too many of us have been watching on...shaking our heads...and wondering if anyone else sees this, or am I nuts? Much to my delight...turns out I'm not nuts. Tons of folks see this. Hell people I'd never have expected, see this clear as day. I think...and this is only my opinion but...I think it might be because, in order to accept what we all see, one must maintain a level of trust in Canadian institutions. As Canadians lose that trust, this assault becomes visible to more and more. When societal abuse becomes the accepted norm, we will see a gradual decline to a dictatorial structure. Once such a structure takes hold, and after about 2 years of nice social decline, there will be many who will be heard at gatherings saying, 'But how could we have known THIS would happen?' I've heard that very statement...in Prague years ago. Be on guard. Edited March 24, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: ... if you can't write three sentences without derailing into hyperbole, nobody's going to listen to you. Seriously... On the other hand, who are all these new posters who can actually disagree without puking on themselves ? Who are these people who don't overstate the case to the nth degree ? Where have you all been for 19 years ??"It started by being told what words we could no longer say. It moved to literal assault on any who disagree with this new orthodoxy." ? 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Moonbox Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Yes...an assault. If you look the word up, you'll see it fits perfectly. No, a "literal assault" has a very specific definition and you don't use it vaguely and generally. People like you use the word "literal" or "literally" for emphasis (I catch myself doing it sometimes too) and it's little more than an emotional appeal - like "yugely". 30 minutes ago, Nationalist said: There have been multiple assaults on Canadians over the last decade or so. Too many of us have been watching on...shaking our heads...and wondering if anyone else sees this, or am I nuts? Much to my delight...turns out I'm not nuts. Tons of folks see this. Tons of folks see what they want to see, and they'll happily confirm amongst themselves how based and red-pilled they all are. ? There are lots of arguments to make against Trudeau or the Liberals, but these vacuous slippery-slope Orwellian conspiracy theories are silly. When the Liberals lose their next election (whether that's 2025 or later, depending on the opposition) you'll be crowing about the restoration of democracy and it'll be the NDPers and Far Left complaining about dictatorship. These arguments aren't new. They're the sustenance of election-losers and it's little more than a coping mechanism, tried-and-true going back generations. 2 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Zeitgeist Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Seriously... On the other hand, who are all these new posters who can actually disagree without puking on themselves ? Who are these people who don't overstate the case to the nth degree ? Where have you all been for 19 years ??"It started by being told what words we could no longer say. It moved to literal assault on any who disagree with this new orthodoxy." ? He’s factually accurate. You’re just in denial and heavily persuaded by the safety-fear narrative used to justify all kinds of privations and suspensions of rights. I bought into the general Liberal policy frameworks for decades, but what we’ve seen happen these past few months federally is grotesque abuse of authority. If you’re not working and believe that the state should dictate your healthcare and take extreme measures in the name of public safety, then you’re probably going to accept these conditions. I never will. It’s ruined the country to some extent for me, and I know others feel similar disappointment. Is it still better here than in China or Russia? Sure, but for how long? I don’t trust this government as stewards of our democracy. 1 Quote
West Posted March 24, 2022 Author Report Posted March 24, 2022 The newest from the Trudeau/Singh dictatorship is that a pause on gas taxes aren't going to help lower prices at the pumps... The out of touch Rolex socialists... sad Quote
Nationalist Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Moonbox said: No, a "literal assault" has a very specific definition and you don't use it vaguely and generally. People like you use the word "literal" or "literally" for emphasis (I catch myself doing it sometimes too) and it's little more than an emotional appeal - like "yugely". Tons of folks see what they want to see, and they'll happily confirm amongst themselves how based and red-pilled they all are. ? There are lots of arguments to make against Trudeau or the Liberals, but these vacuous slippery-slope Orwellian conspiracy theories are silly. When the Liberals lose their next election (whether that's 2025 or later, depending on the opposition) you'll be crowing about the restoration of democracy and it'll be the NDPers and Far Left complaining about dictatorship. These arguments aren't new. They're the sustenance of election-losers and it's little more than a coping mechanism, tried-and-true going back generations. Assault is assault. If you don't believe me? Go tell a Tranny he/she can not use the bathroom of their choice. That's all it takes. Tons of folks see what is real now. More folks see reality daily. Bill Maher is seeing reality again...which I have to admit is refreshing. You and Mike will eventually see reality too. But before you do, you will likely have to admit to yourself that the government, the media, and most other institutions...are lying to you. "these vacuous slippery-slope Orwellian conspiracy theories are silly" and have happened in reality...many times over. My wife watched it. So did my own grandparents. I trust them. This is just a tad different. Were that things were normal again. But they are not. The population has been abused and lied to for years now. And the last 3 years have been the crowning achievement. But as they approach their summit, so too does their opposition explode in numbers. I'd hate for you and Mike to be the ones lamenting that you simply couldn't have seen this coming. 3 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Zeitgeist Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, West said: The newest from the Trudeau/Singh dictatorship is that a pause on gas taxes aren't going to help lower prices at the pumps... The out of touch Rolex socialists... sad But they’re saving the planet. Who cares about being able to pay rent or take your kids out for ice cream? Just know that Justin has your back as he plans the next round of climate actions from the Gatineau cottage or private jet. The Vanguard of the Proletariat knows what’s good for us. Quote
West Posted March 24, 2022 Author Report Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: But they’re saving the planet. Who cares about being able to pay rent or take your kids out for ice cream? Just know that Justin has your back as he plans the next round of climate actions from the Gatineau cottage or private jet. The Vanguard of the Proletariat knows what’s good for us. Their virtue and being good people is what matters here. Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, blackbird said: No, Canadians did not vote for these programs. Only a minority voted for Liberals and NDP. Ha! Sounds like the same whining the Liberals used when Ford won in Ontario. Bottom line is enough Canadians in the right places voted for Justin and Jagmeet. So yes, Canadians voted for them and the programs they were selling at the time...which are the same ones that are proposed now. Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
eyeball Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: What does the Bible have to do with this? Apparently the morality or lack thereof in taxing people. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Ha! Sounds like the same whining the Liberals used when Ford won in Ontario. Bottom line is enough Canadians in the right places voted for Justin and Jagmeet. So yes, Canadians voted for them and the programs they were selling at the time...which are the same ones that are proposed now. No the Liberals did not promise a Dental Care program, or a Pharmacare Program in the last election. The NDP might have but nobody expected them to form government. Most Canadians did not vote for new Socialist programs. Most Canadians did not vote for a majority government. Nobody told Canadians how much all this is going to cost either. Is is presumption to say Canadians are willing to pay for all these things. Here's what Trudeau's Liberals have promised for their third term | CTV News Quote
ironstone Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, West said: The newest from the Trudeau/Singh dictatorship is that a pause on gas taxes aren't going to help lower prices at the pumps... The out of touch Rolex socialists... sad You are absolutely right. This site says Jagmeet has a net worth of $4,000,000. Jagmeet Singh Net Worth, Age, Height, Wealth (Updated 2022) (susankatzkeating.com) Justin Trudea: Justin Trudeau Net Worth | TheRichest I don't begrudge these silver spoon socialists because they're wealthy, it's because they have no clue what's like for Mr. and Mrs. Joe average . The policies of Trudeau's government alone were bad enough but now that they formed a coalition with a party who's policies are arguably even worse, it's going to get an awful lot more expensive for working Canadians. 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
ExFlyer Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 49 minutes ago, blackbird said: No the Liberals did not promise a Dental Care program, or a Pharmacare Program in the last election. The NDP might have but nobody expected them to form government. Most Canadians did not vote for new Socialist programs. Most Canadians did not vote for a majority government. Nobody told Canadians how much all this is going to cost either. Is is presumption to say Canadians are willing to pay for all these things. Here's what Trudeau's Liberals have promised for their third term | CTV News As I said, "Canadians voted for them and the programs they were selling at the time" So, here we are, a Liberal/NDP government with a pharmacare and dentalcare program coming. You my not have expected it and i do not see why not as it was obvious the moment the throne speech was read and the NDP voted for it... already being in bed with the Liberals and they have not left the bed LOL As a matter of fact, the pulled the covers up in the bed LOL Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
ExFlyer Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 40 minutes ago, ironstone said: You are absolutely right. This site says Jagmeet has a net worth of $4,000,000. Jagmeet Singh Net Worth, Age, Height, Wealth (Updated 2022) (susankatzkeating.com) Justin Trudea: Justin Trudeau Net Worth | TheRichest I don't begrudge these silver spoon socialists because they're wealthy, it's because they have no clue what's like for Mr. and Mrs. Joe average . The policies of Trudeau's government alone were bad enough but now that they formed a coalition with a party who's policies are arguably even worse, it's going to get an awful lot more expensive for working Canadians. Could you find out what Jagmeets' worth was before he became a politician and leader of the NDP? Was he a millionaire before? Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
West Posted March 24, 2022 Author Report Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: As I said, "Canadians voted for them and the programs they were selling at the time" So, here we are, a Liberal/NDP government with a pharmacare and dentalcare program coming. You my not have expected it and i do not see why not as it was obvious the moment the throne speech was read and the NDP voted for it... already being in bed with the Liberals and they have not left the bed LOL As a matter of fact, the pulled the covers up in the bed LOL It was like the Sask Party's Rona restrictions here. They knew if they implemented ridiculous policy like mask mandates or the vaxx pass they would've taken a hit in the election so they waited until the election then rammed through a bunch of commie nonsense on the population. Quote
ironstone Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Could you find out what Jagmeets' worth was before he became a politician and leader of the NDP? Was he a millionaire before? The link I posted earlier isn't too clear on how or when he became a multimillionaire but it says he was only a lawyer for 6 years. This is also from that link: Jagmeet Singh has a net worth of $4 from his legal and political career. He was a lawyer for six years before he decided to join politics. Some of his wealth is from his time as a lawyer although he used to do a lot of pro bono work so his real wealth from law might not be known. The author that wrote that article really gushes over Singh and how wonderful he is.? 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
ironstone Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 This must have been a humiliating time for Trudeau. Almost no audience in the European Parliament! 2 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
eyeball Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 There is a lot more going on that makes Trudeau a better target for critics around the world that Canadians should be pointing out. Especially this these days. I've pointed out this story a number of times around here largely to the sounds of crickets. Quote Canada's rankings in the Corruption Perceptions Index have plummeted under Trudeau Last year’s “National Criminal Intelligence Estimate on the Canadian Criminal Marketplace,” a report prepared by the federal Criminal Intelligence Service, reckoned the amount of dirty money finding its way into above-ground Canadian assets like real estate every year could be upwards of $133 billion. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/terry-glavin-canadas-rankings-in-the-corruption-perceptions-index-have-plummeted-under-trudeau I do not give a flying fuck how much or where the money for things like public pharmacare, dental-care or NATO/military funding comes from when I see stuff like this. Just print the shit and STFU. Conservatives especially can go take a collective piss up a rope when they cry and whinge about their precious taxes when they can't take the time to make an issue out of this. But of course Conservatives can't make an issue out of this because they know full well a proper investigation will uncover their own complicity in Canada's long sordid history of corruption on behalf of the stinking filthy rich. Quote The capacity of government to detect money-laundering practices falls within the CPI’s purview, but one shudders to think what Canada’s score would be if Ottawa allowed the degree of public scrutiny that would be needed to effectively expose the rackets that move money into Canada on behalf of big-time gangsters, police-state apparatchiks and oligarchs and kleptocrats from Belarus to Beijing. If I was a real commie with power...there would be blood. So WWJD? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
West Posted March 24, 2022 Author Report Posted March 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, ironstone said: This must have been a humiliating time for Trudeau. Almost no audience in the European Parliament! Hopefully his plane breaks down and the lil potatoe stays there Quote
Nationalist Posted March 25, 2022 Report Posted March 25, 2022 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Apparently the morality or lack thereof in taxing people. And you propose the bible represents morality? Have you read the bible? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Army Guy Posted March 25, 2022 Report Posted March 25, 2022 On 3/23/2022 at 12:40 AM, Jack9000 said: i dont really care if it helps gets pharacare and dental coverage for more people good its overdue. Do we know the costs, or who cares as long as it gets to the people, and what else is over due in regards to social programs... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted March 25, 2022 Report Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, ironstone said: This must have been a humiliating time for Trudeau. Almost no audience in the European Parliament! well some of the audience was hostile...to say the least... i felt kind of sorry for him, then thought know what this is the leader Canadians voted in for the 3 rd time, good on them...maybe we could aim for a 4 th time... German MEP Christine Anderson took the floor. She ended her speech by telling Trudeau he was a “disgrace for any democracy” and “Please spare us your presence.” European MPs denounce Trudeau's handling of convoy protest after surreal speech in Brussels (msn.com) 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
blackbird Posted March 25, 2022 Report Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) Frank Stronach, founder of one of Canada’s largest global companies, says the country is “fairly close” to a public debt crisis and Canadians need to force politicians to rein in spending. Canada may be heading for bankruptcy as happened to Greece a number of years ago. The NDP and Liberals don't seem concerned and the NDP is pushing and signed a deal with the Liberals that could increase spending by tens of billions of dollars. Canada's debt is increasing by 400 million per day according to this article. When the country is spending more money than it receives in revenue, there is the potential for bankruptcy. Stronach says we are fairly close to bankruptcy. So how do Canadians force government to reign in this potential debt crisis? I don't see any way that Canadians can stop the governing party from it's present course. Edited March 25, 2022 by blackbird Quote
West Posted March 25, 2022 Author Report Posted March 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, blackbird said: Frank Stronach, founder of one of Canada’s largest global companies, says the country is “fairly close” to a public debt crisis and Canadians need to force politicians to rein in spending. Canada may be heading for bankruptcy as happened to Greece a number of years ago. The NDP and Liberals don't seem concerned and the NDP is pushing and signed a deal with the Liberals that could increase spending by tens of billions of dollars. Canada's debt is increasing by 400 million per day according to this article. When the country is spending more money than it receives in revenue, there is the potential for bankruptcy. Stronach says we are fairly close to bankruptcy. So how do Canadians force government to reign in this potential debt crisis? I don't see any way that Canadians can stop the governing party from it's present course. Yup. I don't think people realize how screwed we are for generations to come. The billionaire class has been busy buying up all the land after the crisis created by our government. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted March 25, 2022 Report Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: And you propose the bible represents morality? Have you read the bible? Not at all, the question I triggered in the shits-storm of brain-farts this thread's become was actually facetious. I've read a couple of reviews. I subscribe to the shit-disturbing Jesus who penned the e=mc2 of how to get along in the world. Do unto others yadda yadda. Edited March 25, 2022 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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