Army Guy Posted March 22, 2022 Report Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Jack9000 said: lol its not a dictatorship a coalition you mean jesus.. westerners on here are so dramatic.. Harper tried the same thing when he wanted to be pm also. it happens alot of governments in europe just cause it's newish here doesn't make it a dictatorship. Justin was very adamant it is not a coalition... it is just an agreement to work together...seems the agreement comes with terms...costly terms....i know now of this concerns you, at the moment, but one does have to ask why ? and don't pass that BS about working together, they both have been working together for years now...Justin does nothing if there is no agenda so what do you think it is ? Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
blackbird Posted March 22, 2022 Report Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, eyeball said: What does the bible say? "So what does the Bible have to say about Socialism? The Bible tells us that Socialism is slavery and thievery. And anybody who has lived under Socialism can confirm it. Socialism destroys the Biblical work ethic and confiscates assets earned by producers and gives them to non-producers. This de-motivates producers and creates a cycle of sloth, poverty and dependence." What Does the Bible Say About Socialism? – Faith Founded on Fact Does the Bible Recommend Socialism? Ten Reasons Why Members of the Early Church Would Say No - Word Foundations What Does the Bible Say About Socialism? - Topic: Socialism - Prophecy Experience - DavidJeremiah.org 2 1 Quote
blackbird Posted March 22, 2022 Report Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) The NDP are actually Marxists clothed in sheep's clothing. They like to claim how they are going to help those in need and less fortunate, but never tell you how much it is going to cost and who is going to pay for it. They avoid that end of the deal like the plague. But the truth is they will have to rob every working Canadian or anyone who has any money. They desire everyone to receive every imaginable social program, health care, dental care, pharmacare, housing, mental counseling, etc. etc.. But they don't tell you that government will have to rob every working person and taxpayer to pay for it all. On top of that they want to kill the oil and gas industry and put more regulations on everything that might emit some CO2 in the name of fighting climate change. These steps will mean ever-increasing gas and energy prices because the world is not going to stop using fossil fuels. There is no alternative. This will destroy the economy and the sources of revenue that government needs to pay for social programs. The energy industry pays billions of dollars each year in royalties and corporate taxes as well as income taxes for the tens of thousands of workers. That will all disappear if the NDP / Liberals have their way. Edited March 22, 2022 by blackbird 1 1 Quote
eyeball Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 44 minutes ago, blackbird said: The Bible tells us that Socialism is slavery and thievery. And anybody who has lived under Socialism can confirm it. Socialism destroys the Biblical work ethic and confiscates assets earned by producers and gives them to non-producers. This de-motivates producers and creates a cycle of sloth, poverty and dependence." You're describing what I would call a very stingy right-wing form of communism, a social system in which power is distributed only in an extremely conservative manner to as few hands as possible. There's nothing progressive about what you're describing in the least from my perspective. Despite your utter conviction I'd be a high ranking official in such an organization I guarantee you I'd be amongst the first that the government of such a monstrosity would be disappearing when disposing of its critics. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
dialamah Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, blackbird said: They desire everyone to receive every imaginable social program, health care, dental care, pharmacare, housing, mental counseling, etc. etc.. Did you pay for the vaccine you got? Quote
blackbird Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, dialamah said: Did you pay for the vaccine you got? Of course not. We are paying for it through our taxes I'm sure. I don't think individual Americans paid for it either. So government pays for it out of tax revenue. That makes sense if you want everyone to get vaccinated. But that is not exactly the same as Socialism. We also need streets, sidewalks, fire department, etc.. Just basic public services. All capitalist countries have those basic public infrastructure and services like police and fire departments. I wouldn't call that Socialism. Edited March 23, 2022 by blackbird Quote
dialamah Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, blackbird said: Of course not. We are paying for it through out taxes I'm sure. Well, that's socialism. Taxes are collected and is used to give people free stuff when it's needed. That your particular brand of Christianity doesn't believe in helping the less fortunate says a lot about the loving-kindness of the God you worship. I personally prefer the Christian God who teaches his people to help those less fortunate, not judge them as less deserving because they're poor. Quote
West Posted March 23, 2022 Author Report Posted March 23, 2022 After seeing how the government has totally botched our health care system through Covid, I dont think we should give them any more control over our health. Only so many dentists around. You then start rationing dental services. No thanks Quote
Zeitgeist Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 Rationed care by committee. They decide what you deserve — or else. Quote
West Posted March 23, 2022 Author Report Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Rationed care by committee. They decide what you deserve — or else. Based on the liberal hierarchy of victimhood 1 Quote
eyeball Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 57 minutes ago, blackbird said: Of course not. We are paying for it through our taxes I'm sure. I don't think individual Americans paid for it either. So government pays for it out of tax revenue. That makes sense if you want everyone to get vaccinated. But that is not exactly the same as Socialism. We also need streets, sidewalks, fire department, etc.. Just basic public services. All capitalist countries have those basic public infrastructure and services like police and fire departments. I wouldn't call that Socialism. I would and I bet Jesus would too. He'd also curb stomp tax breaks for the wealthy and so should you. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Jack9000 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: Justin was very adamant it is not a coalition... it is just an agreement to work together...seems the agreement comes with terms...costly terms....i know now of this concerns you, at the moment, but one does have to ask why ? and don't pass that BS about working together, they both have been working together for years now...Justin does nothing if there is no agenda so what do you think it is ? i dont really care if it helps gets pharacare and dental coverage for more people good its overdue. Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Queenmandy85 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 7 hours ago, blackbird said: Also see the following article as to why Socialism is evil: 5 Reasons Socialism Is Not Christian | Opinion News (christianpost.com) First, the article is American. Secondly, it contradicts itself by saying socialism promotes materialism, yet it defends the accumulation of wealth. It is said in the Bible that it is harder for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven than for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle. Finally, the NDP are basically the political arm of the Christian Church in Canada. Tommy Douglas, Stanley Knowles, Ben Smiley, Peter Prebble, Fr. Bob Ogle to name a few of the clergy who have been prominent in the NDP. 2 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
West Posted March 23, 2022 Author Report Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Queenmandy85 said: Finally, the NDP are basically the political arm of the Christian Church in Canada. Tommy Douglas, Stanley Knowles, Ben Smiley, Peter Prebble, Fr. Bob Ogle to name a few of the clergy who have been prominent in the NDP. At one point maybe. Now it's full of human secularists trying to impress you with all the new genders they created and full term abortionists 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Army Guy said: One more question, Why has Justin gone this route, was he planning something that might create a confidence vote ? why combining forces with the NDP, and having to pay an additional price to please them...I ask becasue Justin had a majority already and in my opinion pissed it away, and accomplished very little, whats the sudden need to have another.... I would say he went this route because he screwed the pooch with the Emergency Act and he's vulnerable. Give it 3.5 years and people will forget about that and he figures he can rehabilitate his image. Personally, I don't think it will last that long, but we'll see. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Nexii Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: I would say he went this route because he screwed the pooch with the Emergency Act and he's vulnerable. Give it 3.5 years and people will forget about that and he figures he can rehabilitate his image. Personally, I don't think it will last that long, but we'll see. Yea I give it 2 years. This agreement is not as stable as a coalition. Again it's all poll driven. You can bet if the NDP go up and Liberals go down they will call it Quote
betsy Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) As I've said before: NDP is just a party that props up the Liberals. I wonder if there's any corruption involved. Edited March 23, 2022 by betsy Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 Justin Trudeau's ego . . . . is too big to let this go on for long. Canada has stepped in Trudeau sh!t, and no matter how long you scrape your boot, the smell lingers. Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, West said: At one point maybe. Now it's full of human secularists trying to impress you with all the new genders they created and full term abortionists But it doesn't change the fact that the NDP and the Christian Church are closely associated. I notice you did not respond to the first two points. Edited March 23, 2022 by Queenmandy85 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
blackbird Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) On 3/22/2022 at 6:56 PM, dialamah said: Well, that's socialism. Taxes are collected and is used to give people free stuff when it's needed. That your particular brand of Christianity doesn't believe in helping the less fortunate says a lot about the loving-kindness of the God you worship. I personally prefer the Christian God who teaches his people to help those less fortunate, not judge them as less deserving because they're poor. God said "thou shalt not steal" and ordained the right to own private property. Therefore government stealing people's property to give to others is not "charity" or "helping the less fortunate". It is Communist, Socialist, or Marxist ideology. The Bible teaches personal charity done voluntarily. That is not the same as Socialism where government steals property or money from people to give to others, which you seem to approve of. Edited March 24, 2022 by blackbird Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 Jesus said render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Pay your taxes. 1 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
blackbird Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) On 3/22/2022 at 9:02 PM, Queenmandy85 said: First, the article is American. Secondly, it contradicts itself by saying socialism promotes materialism, yet it defends the accumulation of wealth. It is said in the Bible that it is harder for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven than for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle. Finally, the NDP are basically the political arm of the Christian Church in Canada. Tommy Douglas, Stanley Knowles, Ben Smiley, Peter Prebble, Fr. Bob Ogle to name a few of the clergy who have been prominent in the NDP. The Bible never authorizes or supports Socialism as those people did. That is a false interpretation of the Bible. Stealing is condemned in the Bible and the right to private property is sacred. Government does not have the right to take people's property or money by force to redistribute to others. The people who came out of those kind of churches were heretics. They preached social gospels and use politics to further their demonic agenda of Socialism. They totally misinterpreted the Bible as some kind of social gospel. They support Socialism, and things totally contrary to the Bible. They preach evil progressivism and Socialism under the guise of the gospel. They never mention it is stealing and contrary to the Bible. These are exactly the same kind politicians in left wing parties that support same-sex marriage, LGBTQ, doctor-assisted dying, abortion and attack Bible-believing Christianity. Edited March 24, 2022 by blackbird Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 Where does the Bible ordain the right to private property? Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
West Posted March 23, 2022 Author Report Posted March 23, 2022 48 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: But it doesn't change the fact that the NDP and the Christian Church are closely associated. I notice you did not respond to the first two points. Maybe the United church which I don't consider to be Christian anymore. Quote
blackbird Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) On 3/23/2022 at 7:01 AM, Queenmandy85 said: Where does the Bible ordain the right to private property? "17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s. " Exodus 20:17 KJV Edited March 24, 2022 by blackbird Quote
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