Will eliminating vaccine mandates and vaccine passports reduce the freedom for the majority?

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

For me it's been about having to rely on them. Yes I know people constantly remind me that of course we need to protect the vulnerable but the sincerity of that is a bit of a stretch when I know they mean go hide in your basement.

Good call, fella. Do you also have a truck, by chance?

[Infidel Dog]

59 minutes ago, Shady said:

It’s not true.  It’s deadly to particular age groups and people in very poor health.  That’s why the average age of a covid death in Canada is over 80 years old.

The left is finally noticing the chi-comm virus is endemic and they want points now for admitting something we told them a year ago. It's endemic you can't do anything about it. Learn to live with it. They best you can hope for is milder symptoms in future variants.

Except...

We need better therapeutics than the clot shot. They haven't caught up with that one yet but when they do they'll be telling us they knew that all along too. 

[dialamah]

45 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

The left is finally noticing the chi-comm virus is endemic and they want points now for admitting something we told them a year ago. 

If that's what you were saying a year ago, you were wrong.  It's not quite endemic even now, but it's getting there.  Why you people can't understand that things change over time is a mystery to me.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Shady said:

It’s not true.  It’s deadly to particular age groups and people in very poor health.  That’s why the average age of a covid death in Canada is over 80 years old.

It kills people but its not true that its deadly. ?

I'm pretty sure what people find the most disparaging about mixed messaging is that it completely undermines the entire concept of sincerity.

[eyeball]

45 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Why you people can't understand that things change over time is a mystery to me.

It comes from using the rear view mirror to watch the world pass by.

In the analogy of sitting in Grandpa's car as it plunges over the cliff these people wouldn't have a clue what was happening or any kind of chance of preparing for it.

It's not surprising how much the lack of preparedness for a pandemic was a factor in needing to implement so many hasty measures. Ironically penny wise and pound foolish is probably what people letting our preparedness slide were thinking.

[Infidel Dog]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

If that's what you were saying a year ago, you were wrong.  It's not quite endemic even now, but it's getting there.  Why you people can't understand that things change over time is a mystery to me.

Still haven't got the news, eh? Not to worry, all your thought leaders are getting forced into reality. Eventually you'll get sucked in along the vortex behind them. 

Should be fun. Can't wait until you start telling us how you knew all along. Welcome to the light when you finally make it though, no matter how you do it.

[Infidel Dog]

39 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It comes from using the rear view mirror to watch the world pass by.

Here's what I see in my rear view mirror. Everything you dutifully followed from masks to lockdowns to "vaccines" while ignoring admitted therapeutics to mandates to vaccine passports turned out to be wrong, doing more harm than good, and I also see many of us back there telling you that was what was going to happen.

Edited February 13, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

The most dangerous thing your leaders have endorsed though might be the current one. Can you please stop abusing children with your clot shot. Isn't the abuse you perpetrated on them with your obedience masks enough harm? You've tortured enough kids for one lifetime. Leave them alone with your last hurrah of scientific ignorance before you join the rest of us in reality.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Here's what I see in my rear view mirror. Everything you dutifully followed from masks to lockdowns to "vaccines" while ignoring admitted therapeutics to mandates to vaccine passports turned out to be wrong, doing more harm than good, and I also see many of us back there telling you that was what was going to happen.

Yeah well I'm looking up ahead and I see a long protracted recovery made worse for the same reasons you made the pandemic worse, by choosing to freak out about dictators and freedom during the first few weeks of this pandemic.  Do you remember me saying the US wouldn't stand a chance against COVID for that very reason?

Now I wonder if any of us stand a chance against the results of all the freaking out.

[Infidel Dog]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yeah well I'm looking up ahead and I see a long protracted recovery made worse for the same reasons you made the pandemic worse, by choosing to freak out about dictators and freedom during the first few weeks of this pandemic.  Do you remember me saying the US wouldn't stand a chance against COVID for that very reason?

Now I wonder if any of us stand a chance against the results of all the freaking out.

To be honest, I wasn't here, at this message board, for the early days of the pandemic, but I do remember what I was posting where I was.

I haven't a clue what you're talking about from the "first few weeks" but I remember supporting Trump on visitor restrictions when those who talk like you were calling him a racist dictator for wanting them. I do remember people who talk like me predicting how restrictions would increase and wouldn't go away in spite of the authoritarian (and as it turned out, useless) restrictions that were being brought in after it became evident the chi-comm virus wasn't as harmless as the flu - as Fauci was advising Trump and the mainstream media was repeating like good stenographers.

[eyeball]

45 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

To be honest, I wasn't here, at this message board, for the early days of the pandemic, but I do remember what I was posting where I was.

I haven't a clue what you're talking about from the "first few weeks" 

I mean it was pretty clear to me what had to be done and what would likely happen within the first few weeks.  Things have unfolded much as I anticipated except for the extent of the madness that has gripped the conservative right-wing especially the hard-boiled part.

Compared to the lack of preparedness we went into COVID with it's like people were more than prepared and perfectly willing to go nuts.

[taxme]

23 hours ago, eyeball said:

As I understand it the system also rewards people who selflessly do things like open a door for a senior or pick up a piece of trash.  I'm reminded of my old Boy Scout and Cub shirts that had a couple of little badges that gave me social credit for being a selfless do-gooder. Of course I sewed them onto my sleeve.

The government practically hired me on the spot when they saw Boy Scout on my resume.

You have to be a member of the communist NDP party traitors to Canada, right? A communist style social credit system implemented in Canada will mean that if you do not agree with the government over anything than you get a brownie communist point against you. 

You need to really open up your eyeball and see as to what is going on in Canada. Watching the Canadian lying and fake leftist activist media will get you know where. They all lie and they know it too. ?

[Infidel Dog]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

I mean it was pretty clear to me what had to be done and what would likely happen within the first few weeks.  Things have unfolded much as I anticipated except for the extent of the madness that has gripped the conservative right-wing especially the hard-boiled part.

Compared to the lack of preparedness we went into COVID with it's like people were more than prepared and perfectly willing to go nuts.

I could react better if I had a more specific clue what these amazing prophesies you say you made were and what these instructions of yours to the world were on how we all needed to deal with it..

Tell you what Nostradamus...it's happening again so here's your chance to impress with these predictive skills you bloviate about.

You were talking about the beginning of the pandemic. You tell us you were making dead on predictions and only you knew exactly what to do about them. 

As I recall in the beginning your type was telling us there was nothing to worry about. China, The Who and Fauci all told us there was no human to human transmission and if you can't trust them who can you trust? Right? Not.

But you tell us, you saw it more clearly, but won't tell us exactly what or when.

As I said though, there's a way you can show us these amazing Victor the Predicter skills you boast of.

The mixed signals of a new virus are happening again. Here ya go, tell us what's going to happen with this one:

https://www.rt.com/news/549154-uk-tracking-deltacron-covid-variant/

Well...that one might very well turn out to be conspiracy talk so instead do this one below. We know it's real:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/omicron-subvariant-ba2-is-rising-what-do-we-know-about-it/ar-AATEXLU

So what's going to happen with BA 2 or other upcoming variants, oh all-seeing oracle?

Apparently you alone knew exactly what to do with the original Covid although you seem hesitant to tell us specifically what that was. Very well start again. What's coming now and what do we do about it? 

 

Edited February 14, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, taxme said:

You have to be a member of the communist NDP party traitors to Canada, right? A communist style social credit system implemented in Canada will mean that if you do not agree with the government over anything than you get a brownie communist point against you.

You live in BC, remember the right-wing conservative party known as the Social Credit Party?

 

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You need to really open up your eyeball and see as to what is going on in Canada. Watching the Canadian lying and fake leftist activist media will get you know where. They all lie and they know it too. ?

Okay if you say so, I'll try to pay more attention to Fox and Sun Media.

Here's hoping...

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I could react better if I had a more specific clue what these amazing prophesies you say you made were and what these instructions of yours to the world were on how we all needed to deal with it.. 

I simply said that the US would not be able to overcome all the hooey around freedom and liberty so many Americans subscribe to and as a result COVID would kill more of them.  That's the entire prophesy in a nutshell.  Exactly where the hell did you get the retarded idea that I gave instructions to the world?  I figured out what I needed to do is all. 

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Tell you what Nostradamus...it's happening again so here's your chance to impress with these predictive skills you bloviate about.

You were talking about the beginning of the pandemic. You tell us you were making dead on predictions and only you knew exactly what to do about them.

Where did I say only me? And to repeat I only made one prediction.  Was I wrong you think?

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As I recall in the beginning your type was telling us there was nothing to worry about. China, The Who and Fauci all told us there was no human to human transmission and if you can't trust them who can you trust? Right? Not.

'Your type' simply means not your type.  There are lots of types.

Trust is always subject to reassessment and so too was the science behind a completely novel virus that no one had seen before. Why on Earth should anyone expect science to have all the answers when it was still trying to figure out what questions to ask and why were conservatives so incredibly impatient to the point it blinded them to this? Of course this never stopped you from bleating "follow the science" throughout the entire two years.

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But you tell us, you saw it more clearly, but won't tell us exactly what or when.

Yes I did tell you exactly what I saw and when - that the US would fuck it up, and I saw that within the first few weeks of the pandemic.  Why is more important than when, and as I saw more of why it was fucking up it became obvious it would only get worse and probably spread, and it did just like a disease.

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As I said though, there's a way you can show us these amazing Victor the Predicter skills you boast of.

The mixed signals of a new virus are happening again. Here ya go, tell us what's going to happen with this one:

https://www.rt.com/news/549154-uk-tracking-deltacron-covid-variant/

Well...that one might very well turn out to be conspiracy talk so instead do this one below. We know it's real:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/omicron-subvariant-ba2-is-rising-what-do-we-know-about-it/ar-AATEXLU

So what's going to happen with BA 2 or other upcoming variants, oh all-seeing oracle?

Apparently you alone knew exactly what to do with the original Covid although you seem hesitant to tell us specifically what that was. Very well start again. What's coming now and what do we do about it?

The only thing I know for sure that will happen with these other variants is that right-wing conservatives will be insufferable idiots about it every step of the way and...make it worse.  I say this with complete confidence based on the evidence of the last 2 years.   

Edited February 14, 2022 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

On 2/12/2022 at 4:50 PM, eyeball said:

I didn't defend anything.

I attacked the hypocrisy of your snotty demand for substantiation in the face of your snotty refusal to supply it yourself when asked.

I supplied total proof fo what I said.

You're still lacking. 

[Michael Hardner]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

I did tell you exactly what I saw and when - that the US would fuck it up, and I saw that within the first few weeks of the pandemic. 

Looking at the stats, we are far better than the most comparable country - and most wealthy nations with the exception of Scandanavia and isolated pacific nations:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

[Moonbox]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I supplied total proof fo what I said.

You're still lacking. 

You don't even understand what substantiating means, or at least have no idea how to do it properly.  Just posting link and getting angry about what's being said doesn't count!?

[Infidel Dog]

17 hours ago, eyeball said:

I simply said that the US would not be able to overcome all the hooey around freedom and liberty so many Americans subscribe to and as a result COVID would kill more of them.  That's the entire prophesy in a nutshell.  

So when did this happen? Specifically. When did freedom and liberty "hooey" kill Americans during the Pandemic?

The way  I remember it the bulk of deaths happened in Blue states under Democrat control. 7 out of the top 10 total death count states by my count. Texas gets a pass because Biden was flooding infected illegals through the Texan border. Florida had its big surge during the week Delta hit but got the death count under control by opening up monoclonal antibody centers.

In fact I'm not sure Canada's controls for the first 3 quarters of the pandemic were any more stringent than America's. New York and Michigan were sending the infected to retirement homes rather than use the facilities Trump was providing for them. And that killed a lot of people. At the very beginning it was Democrats like Pelosi and the Socialist mayor of New York that were encouraging people to come out onto the streets and party. Trump was trying to block the borders.

In fact as I recall anything Trudeau did to control the virus was at least a few weeks after the Americans. 

So what exactly are these amazing Canadian controls you're endorsing as saving lives you believe were extinguished by liberty lovers in America?

And you sure sound like you're bragging about something to me. I'm not sure exactly what though.

[Infidel Dog]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Looking at the stats, we are far better than the most comparable country - and most wealthy nations with the exception of Scandanavia and isolated pacific nations:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

If you're going by that link and total deaths I think you might want to have another look at countries like Australia, Saudi Arabia, Japan and at least 20 more.

[Aristides]

Some BC restauranteurs are worried that getting rid of the vaccine passports might drive customers away in the short term at least.

[taxme]

On 2/13/2022 at 7:26 PM, eyeball said:

You live in BC, remember the right-wing conservative party known as the Social Credit Party?

 

Okay if you say so, I'll try to pay more attention to Fox and Sun Media.

Here's hoping...

 

Well, it's about time that you have finally decided to see the light and have decided to watch FOX and Rebel News more often and learn something for a change. It never hurts to try and get the other side of the story that Marxists like yourself refuse to do. Just think that you will soon be able to remove and take off that gadget of wires on your head. You look rather ridiculous with that gadget of wires on that brainwashed head of yours. Feel better now? 

I am now living in a Marxist BC province where freedom and rights have no place here. We have Marxists running BC and they have done quite the f'n mess on this province. There is no real conservative party in BC today. We just have politically correct and woke liberals and socialists and communists running this sad and pathetic province. 

BC needs a Trump like leader to try and fix the gawd dam mess that those liberals, socialists and communists have done to this once great province. The BC conservative party could become a Trump like party but that would take courage and guts because we all know how this fake and lying BC media works. To the media in BC, anything real and true conservative looking must be destroyed before it begins. For now, BC is phuk'd. ?

But it is nice to see that you are now going to cross over to light side and get away from the dark side. Well, "here's hoping". ?

[taxme]

16 hours ago, Aristides said:

Some BC restauranteurs are worried that getting rid of the vaccine passports might drive customers away in the short term at least.

The BC restaurant owners have nothing to fear and why would or should they. Those people that are still frightened to death from getting and dying from covid are still going to eat in restaurants, and they seem to have no problem when sitting down, and then taking off their clown masks and just maybe they will start to breathe covid all over the restaurant and onto others in the restaurant. 

Those fear crazy screwballs will eventually start to hopefully smarten up, and I am pretty sure that eventually they will once again return and eat in some restaurant of their choice with or without having to show the mark of the beast or 666 vaccine passport. We all need to end this medical tyranny mandated covid madness once and for all. It's so un-Canadian. ?

[taxme]

21 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

If you're going by that link and total deaths I think you might want to have another look at countries like Australia, Saudi Arabia, Japan and at least 20 more.

The statistics of people that have died from the covid flu are no different to the statistics in the past before covid where just about the same amount of people have died every year from all of the other flu bugs that have been visiting us for decades now. Of course, our not so honest Marxist Canadian media will never bother to point that fact out.

I wonder why? Very interesting indeed. ?

[eyeball]

57 minutes ago, taxme said:

Well, it's about time that you have finally decided to see the light and have decided to watch FOX and Rebel News more often and learn something for a change. 

Comic relief is more like it. It never lasts though.