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4 hours ago, cougar said:

We demand cheaper goods when we are getting poorer and can't make ends meet, and vise versa.  When we are richer , we are very particular with what we buy.  So it turns out we have been growing poorer.

There are many other questionable aspects of the global market strategy

 - outsourcing jobs = leaving your fellow citizens unemployed

- outsourcing hi-tech manufacturing = becoming totally dependent on other nations to provide for your needs; then you can't refuse what they are asking of you

- importing your goods from overseas = unnecessarily destroying the environment by generating extra carbon emissions to transport goods and raw materials between continents, creating hazards at sea, generating all kinds of pollution - including noise pollution as the most innocuous

At the end, most / all countries have lost their independence and get manipulated by a bunch of guys who can do whatever they want wherever they want , and if one country does not suit them, they go to another.

I get your point.

I do say that if your first point is true, then we have been getting poorer and have had problems making ends meet for almost 40+ years when manufacturing started to leave this country. I think consumerism is the key driver and companies filled that need.

Maybe, just maybe, companies (primarily manufacturers) have been over regulated and could not produce those products at a cost that makes them competitive?

The Canadian auto industry had moved a lot of parts manufacturing to Mexico (and other countries) due to high wages and regulations and to keep some of it here we legislate that automakers must have plants in Canada (Honda, Toyota because GM Ford and Chrysler were always here) but in order to keep them, we provide incredible subsidies/grants/funds to them here.

 

 

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

http://www.bcchildrens.ca/about/news-stories/stories/myocarditis-pericarditis-and-the-covid-19-vaccine

It is acknowledged here, but downplayed massively.

I don't know 100,000 people that have vaccinated, but I know far more than 1.5 people who have experienced side-effects. Whether or not the BC medical acknowledges that they're all from the pseudovaxes is a different story.

Our daughter missed her period for over 4 months after getting the second dose. I didn't even know that was a pseudovax side-effect until goddess mentioned about a week ago. We hadn't blamed it on anything prior to that, she works out a lot and has a low BMI, we thought that she was just under 11% body-fat or something. She's a teacher and apparently she's supposed to have her 3rd dose but she just lies about the booster and no one has ever checked into it. 

A business associate, middle aged male, who went into convulsions for 2 hours right after vaxing.

My wife's best friend has a son around 25 in the navy who got vaccinated right before he flew between Turkey and the US. He ended up paralyzed for 12 hours.

Our best friends have a son who plays on our softball team, and his girlfriend got myocarditis from the first dose of the vaccine and so she didn't get the second one. His sister's best friend works for BC Health and she got it worse - she's been on medication ever since.

My wife's clients have a son who flew to Japan shortly after vaxing and he ended up in the hospital there with brain haemorrhaging. I don't know how old he is, but he has young children so he's probably between 25-35.

 

Those are my personal links to vaccine side-effects, and I don't know anyone who got more than just a flu from covid. The there's the fact that 2021 was the year of "professional athlete heart attacks". Aside from two teen-aged basketball players who collapsed from known heart conditions about ten years apart, I hadn't heard of professional athletes suddenly collapsing for heart issues with "no known reason".  

https://dpbh.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/dpbhnvgov/content/Boards/BOH/Meetings/2021/Public Comments 324 to 328.pdf

I randomly googled Megan Roth and Ferran Duran from the list of 69 and they actually did have cardiac episodes. No one is attributing these heart attacks to the vax, but they are all vaxed, and their heart issues are disconcerting to say the least. 

 

Surely you know at least 3-5 people who had moderate-to-serious side effects soon after vaxing. Whether or not you're willing to admit it is another thing.  

 

All theses issues were positively caused by the COVID vaccination?? Medically proven? Or, you must have a lot of unhealthy friends.

From your link "In rare cases, some youth have experienced inflammation of the heart following immunization with a COVID-19 mRNA vaccine. But Dr. Kevin Harris, a pediatric cardiologist at BC Children’s Hospital, says most cases have been mild."

To put things in perspective "severe nausea, vomiting, or stomach pain; bloody or tarry stools, coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds; fever lasting longer than 3 days; or. swelling, or pain lasting longer than 10 days." is the potential side effects of Aspirin.

I know many many dozens of people that are vaccinated and no, not one had side effects except for a slightly sore arm at the injection site. No wait, my daughter in law had side effects, chills etc like they said might happen. A day later she was OK.

 

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Posted
12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

"Enemy of the State" 

Is that a charge? Or a comment on what the protesters were?

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Ouch, great retort NOT!! LOL

If that is all you have, oyu are in sad shape.

Actually...she's right. YOU...ME...and all those who either took the jab voluntarily, or were coerced by work and the ability to actually live...ARE the test cases.

You seem to forget, this is still listed as EXPERIMENTAL and is approved under very dubious legal conditions. Like...the drug companies CANNOT be held legally responsible for squat.

You...I think it was you...said the Polio and Spanish Flu vaccines were experimental at the time. This is quite true. And at the time, there were some rather nasty side effects to them. TODAY...the vaccines have been perfected and are deemed quite safe. This is simply NOT TRUE of these Rona vaccines.

One day...soon perhaps...these Rona vaccines WILL be deemed "safe". But until then, they are EXPERIMENTAL and released to the public as an EMERGENCY MEASURE with NO legal ties to the producers.

We're guinea pigs.

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Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

I get your point.

I do say that if your first point is true, then we have been getting poorer and have had problems making ends meet for almost 40+ years when manufacturing started to leave this country. I think consumerism is the key driver and companies filled that need.

Maybe, just maybe, companies (primarily manufacturers) have been over regulated and could not produce those products at a cost that makes them competitive?

The Canadian auto industry had moved a lot of parts manufacturing to Mexico (and other countries) due to high wages and regulations and to keep some of it here we legislate that automakers must have plants in Canada (Honda, Toyota because GM Ford and Chrysler were always here) but in order to keep them, we provide incredible subsidies/grants/funds to them here.

 

 

Unions...they once had a real purpose. Today...they're generally destructive.

Every time man invents something for "good"...some rat warps it into a weapon. The auto makers' union needs to be reigned in and made reasonable. Some goes for the teachers' union.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
20 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Actually...she's right. YOU...ME...and all those who either took the jab voluntarily, or were coerced by work and the ability to actually live...ARE the test cases.

You seem to forget, this is still listed as EXPERIMENTAL and is approved under very dubious legal conditions. Like...the drug companies CANNOT be held legally responsible for squat.

You...I think it was you...said the Polio and Spanish Flu vaccines were experimental at the time. This is quite true. And at the time, there were some rather nasty side effects to them. TODAY...the vaccines have been perfected and are deemed quite safe. This is simply NOT TRUE of these Rona vaccines.

One day...soon perhaps...these Rona vaccines WILL be deemed "safe". But until then, they are EXPERIMENTAL and released to the public as an EMERGENCY MEASURE with NO legal ties to the producers.

We're guinea pigs.

Actually, because of my recent cancer, radiation treatments and chemotherapy and surgery, my doctors told me to get the vaccinations to reduce the possibility of be getting COVID..

My points were just to say that medications of any kind are kinda experimental in the early stages of distribution. None say they are cure but do claim to reduce symptoms/hospitalizations/deaths and possible eliminate whatever their target disease is. There are governmental processes and procedures to  validate claims by the manufacturers. Are they always bang on, probably not but in most cases they suffice for distribution. In the case of covid vaccines, the goal was to reduce hospitalizations and deaths and by empirical evidence it did even though millions died and hospitals were overloaded. There is no or virtually no guarantee cure for any disease. The fortunate thing is that there are, to the best of their ability, measures to lessen effects.

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

Posted
23 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Unions...they once had a real purpose. Today...they're generally destructive.

Every time man invents something for "good"...some rat warps it into a weapon. The auto makers' union needs to be reigned in and made reasonable. Some goes for the teachers' union.

When a union leader can accrue a wealth of $56 million just by being a union leader, something is wrong.

https://ejobscircular.com/jerry-dias-salary-wife-wiki-net-worth/

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Posted
4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Actually, because of my recent cancer, radiation treatments and chemotherapy and surgery, my doctors told me to get the vaccinations to reduce the possibility of be getting COVID..

My points were just to say that medications of any kind are kinda experimental in the early stages of distribution. None say they are cure but do claim to reduce symptoms/hospitalizations/deaths and possible eliminate whatever their target disease is. There are governmental processes and procedures to  validate claims by the manufacturers. Are they always bang on, probably not but in most cases they suffice for distribution. In the case of covid vaccines, the goal was to reduce hospitalizations and deaths and by empirical evidence it did even though millions died and hospitals were overloaded. There is no or virtually no guarantee cure for any disease. The fortunate thing is that there are, to the best of their ability, measures to lessen effects.

Sure...that's true as well.

I hope you are clear of Cancer now? My wife went through the treatments too and is clean.

The vaccines will not reduce the possibility of GETTING The Rona. It will reduce the effects of The Rona on you. If your doctor told you it'll keep you from GETTING The Rona...find a new doctor.

So the raw fact is...You and I are essentially "lab rats" at this particular time. Thus we cannot condemn those who choose to NOT be "lab rats"...can we.

We made our choice and so did the people who chose to not take the jab. The shaming and the legal actions need to stop. We see folks every day who insist on wearing masks everywhere. I keep my thoughts and judgments to myself because, they have every right to mask up. They DO NOT...however...have any right to bitch at me in public for baring my face. Same goes for the unvaxxed.

When this painfully obvious fact finally sets in...and when Pixie-Dust is unceremoniously disposed of...we'll have a return to something that will resemble peaceful normality.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

When a union leader can accrue a wealth of $56 million just by being a union leader, something is wrong.

https://ejobscircular.com/jerry-dias-salary-wife-wiki-net-worth/

Your link doesn't say that.  Maybe he won the lottery, invested wisely, inherited a chunk, married well.  That his millions came strictly from his job seems unlikely as union leaders make, on average, $145,000.00.  that's not enough to accrue 50+ million. 

Corruption may have played a role: there is a story that he took a payoff of $50,000 to recommend a particular COVID vaccine to union members.

Not trying to claim Union leaders aren't overpaid, but making millions is usually reserved to captains of industry.

Posted (edited)
45 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

It will reduce the effects of The Rona on you.

Unfortunately, this seems to be no longer true, either.  Countries with high vaccination rates are experiencing surges in cases and deaths of NOT the unvaccinated, but the vaccinated - including our own country.

Stats in all of the provinces now are that the vaccinated are contracting and dying of covid at more than 2X the rate of the unvaccinated.  I already posted the stats for Ontario, Manitoba and Alberta.

I believe the reason for this is what the censored scientists have said would happen from the beginning, because the covid vax is not a sterilizing vaccine, which means it does not completely kill the virus.  Repeated doses then lead to ADE - Antibody Dependent Enhancement.  This is a well-known scientific fact - the phenomenon of disease ENHANCEMENT that occurs when a virus binds to suboptimal antibodies and thus, enhances its entry into the host cells and replicates at break-neck speed.

This explains why more vaccinated are contracting and dying of covid and also explains why the vaccines efficacy wanes at an incredible pace (now they are pushing for a 4th dose - in less than a year).

 

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"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

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Wanted to add also, that ADE is basically that now you have an impaired immune system, which make you extremely vulnerable to any virus that comes along and also enhances and speeds up any diseases that are already present in your body - so if you have an undetected low-grade hypertension issue that isn't picked up in medical tests because you are not currently showing symptoms, suddenly that explodes and you will be hypertensive after the vaccines.  I'm just using hypertension as an example of the many issues that can be enhanced by the vaccines, as hypertension is one of the most common issues being reported.  One of my coworkers, 32 years old is now on medication for hypertension, post-vax.  No history of it before.

It's pretty sneaky, really.  Because there is no way to really connect these issues to the vaccines.  But 32 pages of adverse effects should tell you something.

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted
1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

I keep my thoughts and judgments to myself because, they have every right to mask up. They DO NOT...however...have any right to bitch at me in public for baring my face. Same goes for the unvaxxed.

Thankfully we have the right to bitch at our government to do our bitching for us.

Personally I prefer governments that take COVID seriously, if you don't like it elect a different government.

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I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

Posted
57 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Your link doesn't say that.  Maybe he won the lottery, invested wisely, inherited a chunk, married well.  That his millions came strictly from his job seems unlikely as union leaders make, on average, $145,000.00.  that's not enough to accrue 50+ million. 

Corruption may have played a role: there is a story that he took a payoff of $50,000 to recommend a particular COVID vaccine to union members.

Not trying to claim Union leaders aren't overpaid, but making millions is usually reserved to captains of industry.

Just providing a link.

I think if Jerry Dias won the lottery it would be all over the news and in  his biography .

Never said anything about being overpaid either.

Gotta make oyu wonder though.

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

Posted
32 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Wanted to add also, that ADE is basically that now you have an impaired immune system, which make you extremely vulnerable to any virus that comes along and also enhances and speeds up any diseases that are already present in your body - so if you have an undetected low-grade hypertension issue that isn't picked up in medical tests because you are not currently showing symptoms, suddenly that explodes and you will be hypertensive after the vaccines.  I'm just using hypertension as an example of the many issues that can be enhanced by the vaccines, as hypertension is one of the most common issues being reported.  One of my coworkers, 32 years old is now on medication for hypertension, post-vax.  No history of it before.

It's pretty sneaky, really.  Because there is no way to really connect these issues to the vaccines.  But 32 pages of adverse effects should tell you something.

As do tens of thousands of pages of trials and benefits presented to all the worlds regulators..

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

As do tens of thousands of pages of trials and benefits presented to all the worlds regulators..

CDC has already said they feel they were "misled" by Pfizer about the trials, so....... you may want to investigate that a little further. 

As to benefits - vaccinated are contracting and dying from covid at 2X the rate of unvaccinated, all over the world.  The supposed "benefits" were speculated on, since there was nothing long-term to base any benefits on at the time. 

You are the lab rats. You are the studies.  Don't get all pissy because the long-term effects of taking an experimental never-tried-before mRNA vaccine isn't working out the way you were promised it would.

Enjoy your continual jabs, you will need them now just to stay alive.  Hopefully.

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"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

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It's a genius marketing plan by Big Pharma, really.

Evil.  But genius.

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"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted
1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Unfortunately, this seems to be no longer true, either.  Countries with high vaccination rates are experiencing surges in cases and deaths of NOT the unvaccinated, but the vaccinated - including our own country.

Stats in all of the provinces now are that the vaccinated are contracting and dying of covid at more than 2X the rate of the unvaccinated.  I already posted the stats for Ontario, Manitoba and Alberta.

I believe the reason for this is what the censored scientists have said would happen from the beginning, because the covid vax is not a sterilizing vaccine, which means it does not completely kill the virus.  Repeated doses then lead to ADE - Antibody Dependent Enhancement.  This is a well-known scientific fact - the phenomenon of disease ENHANCEMENT that occurs when a virus binds to suboptimal antibodies and thus, enhances its entry into the host cells and replicates at break-neck speed.

This explains why more vaccinated are contracting and dying of covid and also explains why the vaccines efficacy wanes at an incredible pace (now they are pushing for a 4th dose - in less than a year).

 

Also true now.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
36 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Thankfully we have the right to bitch at our government to do our bitching for us.

Personally I prefer governments that take COVID seriously, if you don't like it elect a different government.

Or lie constantly about it...one or the other...

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Or lie constantly about it...one or the other...

Well its as plain as the day is long Canadians like their governments corrupt so you're still stuck with having to elect the one you like. It's pretty straightforward. 

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I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

Posted
8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Also true now.

One of the most evil things I've seen through all this is the demonizing, banning and destroying of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and monoclonal antibodies that front-line doctors have demonstrated to be effective in treating covid early.  To me, this is like banning and destroying stocks of Tylenol.  These are (were) all inexpensive, safe and effective over-the-counter medications that people should have a right to see if it works for them. None of these are dangerous drugs.

The only reason for banning and destroying the stocks of them was they could not get the EUA if there was a proven treatment for covid.

Interestingly, people have been taking the supplement N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC - found in most health food stores and pharmacies) to treat and prevent colds and flus for years, as it is a powerful anti-inflammatory/antioxidant.  Lots of reports of it lessening the symptoms of covid at home.

Now the US is seeking to ban NAC, too. Amazon has pulled brands of it, even if it is just an ingredient in a blend.

Just evil.

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Is that a charge?

Yes, it's a criminal charge in Canada now. They just have a more ominous name for it: "MISCHIEF!" DA Da dahhhhhhhhhh.

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Or a comment on what the protesters were?

If you believe that it was a Nazi onslaught, spitting out jewish corpses as they hated their way across the country, then you can choose this option. If no one discovers any corpses then you can just blame Trudeau, CTV and CBC for giving you false info. 

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If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Unions...they once had a real purpose. Today...they're generally destructive.

Every time man invents something for "good"...some rat warps it into a weapon. The auto makers' union needs to be reigned in and made reasonable. Some goes for the teachers' union.

The problem is that many unions act like a second executive management.  The make many decisions that a lot of union members don’t support.  They should stick to increasing salaries and benefits, but they become big mafia-like political organizations that get in everyone’s way.    For example, the teachers’ unions keep pushing mask mandates that half of teachers don’t want.  

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Posted
1 hour ago, Goddess said:

One of the most evil things I've seen through all this is the demonizing, banning and destroying of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and monoclonal antibodies that front-line doctors have demonstrated to be effective in treating covid early.  To me, this is like banning and destroying stocks of Tylenol.  These are (were) all inexpensive, safe and effective over-the-counter medications that people should have a right to see if it works for them. None of these are dangerous drugs.

The only reason for banning and destroying the stocks of them was they could not get the EUA if there was a proven treatment for covid.

Interestingly, people have been taking the supplement N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC - found in most health food stores and pharmacies) to treat and prevent colds and flus for years, as it is a powerful anti-inflammatory/antioxidant.  Lots of reports of it lessening the symptoms of covid at home.

Now the US is seeking to ban NAC, too. Amazon has pulled brands of it, even if it is just an ingredient in a blend.

Just evil.

You’re right.  The Mexican government issued a very helpful Covid care package with some of the meds that our government badmouthed.  This is another example of the new horror show of government, big business, and media acting as an all-consuming monolith that seeks to destroy opposition and competition.  

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