Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Aristides said: Anyone who equates what happened here with Hitler or Stalin is truly ignorant. I just saw somebody post that The Rebel's cheezy attempt to generate controversy by filming one of their reporters trying to charge past RCMP bodyguards as "RCMP attacking The Rebel" ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Yzermandius19 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: Anyone who equates what happened here with Hitler or Stalin is truly ignorant. those who don't see obvious parallels are truly ignorant no one is equating just noting similarities 1 Quote
West Posted February 22, 2022 Author Report Posted February 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Aristides said: So? You would have liked it better if she was a former Conservative candidate? Half the people in Parliament are lawyers. So???? You are kidding me ?. Quote
Boges Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 58 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: ask him I think he's making his view pretty clear in the video I posted earlier. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, Boges said: I think he's making his view pretty clear in the video I posted earlier. accussing people of racism is not something that should be done frivolously Quote
myata Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 54 minutes ago, West said: It's shameful these are the people overseeing the judicial system We already lost independent and objective media. This will erode the credibility of the judicial system and then - what's left? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Boges Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: accussing people of racism is not something that should be done frivolously And I don't. But talking about "The White Race" and "Blood Lines" sounds about as Racist as I can imagine. We're chasing our tails now. Seems like you pulled the ripcord on trying to defend why the White Race needs to be preserved. Evolving to have lighter skin because you live in a Northern Climate isn't something special that needs preserving. 2 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Boges said: And I don't. But talking about "The White Race" and "Blood Lines" sounds about as Racist as I can imagine. you need a better imagination clearly you don't know what racism is and think it's hiding under every rock frivolous mfer Quote
eyeball Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 44 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: so the Liberals and NDP are far right to you as well? a commie would say that That's a pretty meaningless observation from a window where anything and everything that isn't in it is either a commie or a Nazi or some combination thereof. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Boges Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: you need a better imagination clearly you don't know what racism is and think it's hiding under every rock frivolous mfer Still can't rationalize why the "White Race" should be protected can you? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: it's hiding under every rock White Preservation Theory is right out of the Nazi playbook sorry. Please close the overton window... it's cold in here. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
West Posted February 22, 2022 Author Report Posted February 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Boges said: And I don't. But talking about "The White Race" and "Blood Lines" sounds about as Racist as I can imagine. We're chasing our tails now. Seems like you pulled the ripcord on trying to defend why the White Race needs to be preserved. Evolving to have lighter skin because you live in a Northern Climate isn't something special that needs preserving. Good grief he's quoting a book. Get over yourself ?. Does it help you rationalize the erosion of your personal privacy by thinking that the government is gonna get them big White supremacists? Seems they are using the same tactic they did with Muslims back after 9/11. Quote
West Posted February 22, 2022 Author Report Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Boges said: Still can't rationalize why the "White Race" should be protected can you? All races should be protected. Duh Quote
Aristides Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Boges said: Still can't rationalize why the "White Race" should be protected can you? It's and established fact Canadians aren't making enough babies. Without immigration we wind up with a nation of geezers. Quote
Boges Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, West said: All races should be protected. Duh No they don't. The colour of your skin isn't sacrosanct. Do people of mixed races have less value? If we're speaking purely from a genetic perspective, we grow stronger as a people when we mix different racial backgrounds. In-breeding is a bad thing for a reason. Back when I went to purchase a dog, I purposely choose a hybrid breed because I knew it would be less likely to have genetic issues. Edited February 22, 2022 by Boges Quote
Aristides Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, West said: All races should be protected. Duh Why does the purity of any race need to be protected? That's right out of Mein Kampf. That concept is racist in itself. Edited February 22, 2022 by Aristides Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, West said: Good grief he's quoting a book. Get over yourself ?. He's explaining a theory that clearly he believes in. He uses language to explain it, not saying 'this is something others believe'. That, together with other comments he has made, makes it more than credible that he buys into this stuff. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Yzermandius19 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Boges said: Still can't rationalize why the "White Race" should be protected can you? I'm not a fan of genocide /shrugs Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) Oh Canada, What Have You Done? John Kass, John Kass February 20, 2022 For all its blood-curdling shrieks about authoritarianism, the political left has always been about two things: Force and the hammer. It is force they employ to grab that government hammer. And it is the hammer they wield under the color of law, to impose control. We see this now in Canada https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2022/02/20/oh_canada_what_have_you_done_563508.html Edited February 22, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: White Preservation Theory is right out of the Nazi playbook sorry. Please close the overton window... it's cold in here. it's only racist when whites do it is racist, you're projecting Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) Is Canada Becoming North America's Cuba? . By Dennis Prager February 22, 2022 (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press via AP) Canada is leaving the Western world. In terms of all-encompassing government, suppression of dissent and the denial of fundamental human rights to many of its citizens, Canada is now more similar to Cuba than to any free country. Canada may eventually return to Western civilization, but as of this writing, the majority of Canadians appear to have no interest in it doing so. According to Maru Public Opinion, "two-thirds [66%] of Canadians support Prime Minister Justin Trudeau bringing in the Emergencies Act ... A majority [56%] of Canadians do not support the truckers who are protesting in any way, shape, or form ... This is a majority view held in every province/region across the country." I suspect that most Americans -- and certainly most people outside of America or Canada -- do not know precisely what Canada's Marxist prime minister, Justin Trudeau, is doing to his country. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/02/22/is_canada_becoming_north_americas_cuba_147225.html Edited February 22, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Boges Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: I'm not a fan of genocide /shrugs Words matter https://www.britannica.com/topic/genocide Quote genocide, the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race. The term, derived from the Greek genos (“race,” “tribe,” or “nation”) and the Latin cide (“killing”), was coined by Raphael Lemkin, a Polish-born jurist who served as an adviser to the U.S. Department of War during World War II. No one is systematically eliminating white people. But the longer we live in a country with a variety races and culture the more a race evolves into something else. It's evolution. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) At Large Trudeau Is Now an Authoritarian The liberties guaranteed by the Canadian Constitution are now subject to his veto. by Shmuel Klatzkin February 19, 2022, 11:05 PM Hot Off The Press King Charles ignored constitutional limits on his power and thereby ignited a civil war that cost him his life and put England under a military dictatorship for more than a decade. The profound constitutionalist John Selden reflected on this shortly after the king’s execution and before the eventual restoration of the constitution after Oliver Cromwell’s death: There is no stretching of power; it is a good rule — eat within your stomach, act within your commission. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau certainly is acting like someone who has eaten more than his stomach can hold, as well as far exceeding his commission. Brian Peckford, former premier of Newfoundland, certainly feels so and had begun taking action even before the truckers began their now-famous protests in Ottawa, at the Ambassador Bridge, and at other places throughout Canada. Peckford was one of the authors of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Canada’s equivalent of the Bill of Rights, which was joined to the Canadian Constitution in 1982. He is the leading spokesman of a group filing suit in Canada against one of the many acts of constitutional overreach: the severe restrictions the Trudeau minority government imposed on travel. The charter states in section 6: Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave Canada. Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a permanent resident of Canada has the right to move to and take up residence in any province… The Canadian Constitution does provide ways that its Parliament or its provincial legislatures can specifically override this. Peckford argues, however, that no such niceties were observed and that therefore the regulations imposed are invalid, unconstitutional infringements of Canadians’ liberties. Overreaching governments often respond by claiming that their unique knowledge and capabilities are sufficient justification for their actions. They seek not only ratification of their actions from those whose powers they have taken, but to establish a precedent — the constitution will no longer bind them from any exercise of power it deems appropriate and necessary. The result of this is clear. The liberties guaranteed by a constitution are now subject to the government’s veto. Effectively, the subjects (no longer citizens) now have only such rights as the government chooses to allow them. This means that government is no longer by the consent of the governed. To the contrary: individual rights are by the consent of a government answerable only to its own conception of its power. Peckford was one of the political elite, but one who was and is dedicated to the principles of Western democracy. He is forceful and eloquent; hear him out in a brilliant interview with the incandescent Jordan Peterson (start listening just shy of minute 11). But as we have seen in the past few weeks, the peaceful protests against overreach and the trampling of liberties have burst out among the not-so-elite. Not the kings of the keyboards, not the members of the chattering class, but the people who make the country work, led by the truckers. Something about this assertion of rights has offended Trudeau. His personality does not seem up to the task that he campaigned for and won. He looks like someone not quite adult, knowing it, and overcompensating. Watching him always gave the feeling of watching someone trying too hard to be someone other than he is. That was when all he faced was the normal polite opposition offered in Canadian politics. Respect for the law comes naturally in a nation whose founders descended from United Empire Loyalists — those who maintained their allegiance to the British crown while America asserted its independence. Canadians achieved their own independence in a different, slower, more orderly and peaceful way, and all those qualities of peacefulness, order, and respect for law are part of the civilizational sparkle of the land of the loon and the maple leaf. But the oppressive overreach of Trudeau’s COVID restrictions, far exceeding anything justified by the data and the science, went too far and continued too long to be mistaken by a large part of the regular working people of Canada as anything other than an assault on their rights and thus of their human dignity. They rose up peacefully, and, emulating Martin Luther King Jr.’s method of resisting unconstitutional restrictive laws, practiced non-violent civil disobedience in a way that awoke widespread support and international attention. Trudeau began his version of respectful dialogue with his aggrieved subjects by labeling their views, without exception, as “unacceptable.” Of course, anyone, who opposes the Great Leader must be on the fringe, with no right to petition and be heard. In the prime minister’s own words, they are “very often misogynistic, racist, women-haters, science-deniers, the fringe.” He let that stand as his only characterization of the protesters. A promising invitation to a national dialogue. Trudeau then disappeared from view, perhaps believing that the fundamental laws of reality had been so deeply breached by the protest that some natural cataclysm was in order. Perhaps the earth would open and swallow the protesters like it had swallowed up Korach and his crew of dissidents in the Bible. As followers of Trudeau’s dad might have said — wow! Even Richard Nixon made his way out of the White House to speak to protesters and hear them out. Trudeau seems to fall short of Nixon — with all his paranoia and tics, a most modest measure to fall short of. Not content with the infringements of liberties he has already imposed, Trudeau doubled down and imposed emergency powers intended for times of war, insurrection, or an equivalent existential threat. He threatened seizure of the truckers’ livelihood, imprisonment, and barring them from their chosen work. The posturing of Charlie Chaplin in The Great Dictator is coming to mind. But Trudeau knows how to spin things when an unpleasant truth is starting to come out: he projects the fascist mindset he has embraced onto those who oppose him politically (see Hillary Clinton’s similar response to the Durham filing for another classic example of this). Not once does he speak of any of the protesters as anything other than swastika-bearing enemies of all that is good, utterly to be excluded from any meaningful political rights. His power, his actions state, is not at the service of the people; the people can be utterly excluded as he sees fit. All Nazis. Trudeau took this a little further last week. On the floor during a session of the House of Commons, a Jewish Member of Parliament, Melissa Lantsman, a member of the Conservative opposition, sharply criticized Trudeau’s invocation of unprecedented emergency powers. The grim prime minister replied: “Conservative Party members can stand with people who wave swastikas, they can stand with people who wave the Confederate flag.” He was met with outraged shouts of “Shame!” Lantsman stood to take formal exception to Trudeau’s remarks as a breach of order and demanded an apology: I am a strong Jewish woman and a member of this House and a descendant of Holocaust survivors and … it’s never been singled out, and I’ve never been made to feel less except for today, when the prime minister accused me of standing with swastikas. I think he owes me an apology. I’d like an apology and I think he owes an apology to all members of this House. But Trudeau had already left the House. Why does anyone who is so completely right and who holds the highest power have to listen to criticism? They are the Nazis! He probably believes that he believes it — except that every act of petulance, contempt, and overreach shows him to be just a very small man who prefers power to responsibility. He has eaten more than his belly can contain, Selden would say. There are a lot of Canadians who will now have their say. A fresh wind is blowing from the north and it is reminding people all over the world of just how precious liberty is. The people will have their say and it can’t come too soon. https://spectator.org/trudeau-is-now-an-authoritarian/ Edited February 22, 2022 by Dougie93 1 Quote
West Posted February 22, 2022 Author Report Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Do people of mixed races have less value? No. All people are created in the image of God. Even Pat King and Tamara Leich. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boges said: No they don't. The colour of your skin isn't sacrosanct. Do people of mixed races have less value? If we're speaking purely from a genetic perspective, we grow stronger as a people when we mix different racial backgrounds. In-breeding is a bad thing for a reason. no one is saying any race is sacrosanct no one is saying mixed races have less value we are saying whites aren't beneath all other races or any mix of races and you still cry racist Quote
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