myata Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, Army Guy said: Take a look at diesel prices...well past 1.63 here in NB Authoritarians always stumble on that piece eventually. Everything else works great, daily progress and improvements (according to the news) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Army Guy said: Take a look at diesel prices...well past 1.63 here in NB Hey Army Guy, I think we need the army to deal with the occupiers in Ottawa and Alberta. The police and Mayor of Ottawa have lost control and can't seem to do the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: failed to remove the thugs and illegal occupiers from the streets of Ottawa. Could it possibly be that the narrative of unruly protesters is a Trudeau fabrication and the protesters are in fact peacefully demonstrating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 Reality check: There has been so many one-sided posts on this forum surrounded by anti-vaxers that a quick reality check is needed at this stage. Truckers cause chaos in Ottawa. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60190452 Doug Ford asks trucker to go home. https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/02/01/truckers-convoy-ottawa-doug-ford-vaccinations/ People living in Downtown Ottawa are fed up with guests overstaying their welcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Faramir said: Except you would be going from the fire pan into the fire. The USA Republic is over. It is now a banana republic where Mexicans and Democrats call the shots during elections. Looks like Britain is the only large western power committed to maintaining democracy. The US is in full-scale culture war. Canada is firmly under socialist control and opposition is discredited. If the situation doesn’t change soon, those who care about freedom with the ability to leave Canada will do so. I trust Westminster over the Canadian Parliament. Canadians aren’t protecting their constitution. It raises serious questions about the value of Confederation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, blackbird said: Hey Army Guy, I think we need the army to deal with the occupiers in Ottawa and Alberta. The police and Mayor of Ottawa have lost control and can't seem to do the job. The army is not the right tool, ask those at OKA, maybe electing someone that can handle it is the solution... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, Faramir said: And liberals are already ruining Texas. Texas becomes more liberal every day. I've heard that Houston is a loony toon leftist city but I've never been there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, West said: Could it possibly be that the narrative of unruly protesters is a Trudeau fabrication and the protesters are in fact peacefully demonstrating? It is no longer a "demonstration or protest". It is an illegal occupation. Get educated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, Army Guy said: The army is not the right tool, ask those at OKA, maybe electing someone that can handle it is the solution... You're probably correct. Just a thought. The police need to act like police and move in and arrest the illegal blockaders. The mayor and chief of police idea of being soft and avoiding confrontation is a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, blackbird said: It is no longer a "demonstration or protest". It is an illegal occupation. Get educated! Protest is illegal in Canada now? Yup, nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, myata said: That works, may take a while to sink in though. Gas at the pump today above 1.50 one of the highest yet. If anyone has been to Europe on travels the first thing they find is how impossibly expensive the cost of living is. Europeans have to have master degree level employment to afford to eat. Canada over the last 5 to 10 years has become more European, or even closer to Australia/New Zealand for affordability. I can tell you for my family I have had to revise our grocery budget over and over again. My wife and I make pretty much the average household income for Canadians and we can barely afford to eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: Protest is illegal in Canada now? Yup, nuff said. If you are conservative or populist it is. If you are Greta Thunberg supporters its ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, West said: Could it possibly be that the narrative of unruly protesters is a Trudeau fabrication and the protesters are in fact peacefully demonstrating? Just give it a few days. Hong Kong protests lasted months but something tells me this is no China. Democratic of course. China, too. But there's a difference of course. Sure, there's. Take CBC for example. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, blackbird said: It is no longer a "demonstration or protest". It is an illegal occupation. Get educated! Given that this is clearly not the "fringe minority" Trudeau claims they are and given the support the convoy has from Canadians across the country, why do you think Trudeau refuses to speak with them about their concerns? I mean, in 2020 when the farmers in India were protesting, Trudeau counselled the Indian government to listen to and dialogue with the protesters. Why do you think he is going against his own advice now? I mean, your country is in revolt. Wouldn't a good leader at least hear what their concerns are? Edited February 2, 2022 by Goddess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Army Guy said: The army is not the right tool, ask those at OKA, maybe electing someone that can handle it is the solution... The nation did elect someone just a few months ago. Now a bunch of far right extremists appear trying to overthrow the will of the nation by intimidation and occupation of the Capital city. Unfortunately the use of Arm forces may become necessary as a last resort. Edited February 2, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, blackbird said: You're probably correct. Just a thought. The police need to act like police and move in and arrest the illegal blockaders. The mayor and chief of police idea of being soft and avoiding confrontation is a joke. Kind of like when groups protested the rail way lines in Ontario, or blocking construction of the new pipeline...those lasted weeks months...protests don't become illegal becasue they inconvenience some... The center of the world is Ottawa, thats everyone target for protests...you would think they would know that by now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, blackbird said: It is no longer a "demonstration or protest". It is an illegal occupation. Get educated! An illegal occupation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, myata said: Just give it a few days. Hong Kong protests lasted months but something tells me this is no China. Democratic of course. China, too. But there's a difference of course. Sure, there's. Take CBC for example. What? Amazing howvthey are hating on Russia right now when our politicians have turned the country into a third world dictatorship in the name of "safety". People arrested for going to church. You'd think this was North Korea 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Reality check: There has been so many one-sided posts on this forum surrounded by anti-vaxers that a quick reality check is needed at this stage. Truckers cause chaos in Ottawa. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60190452 Doug Ford asks trucker to go home. https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/02/01/truckers-convoy-ottawa-doug-ford-vaccinations/ People living in Downtown Ottawa are fed up with guests overstaying their welcome. It's also inconvenient to be treated like the plague when you go into a restaurant or lose a job over an ineffective vaccine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Kind of like when groups protested the rail way lines in Ontario, or blocking construction of the new pipeline...those lasted weeks months...protests don't become illegal becasue they inconvenience some... The center of the world is Ottawa, thats everyone target for protests...you would think they would know that by now... I believe the illegal blockades of the railways, pipelines, etc. should have been dealt with quickly and they should have been removed. This country is self-destructing and allowing illegal blockades and occupations to carry on under the false claim that they are legitimate protests, which of course they are not. They have nothing to do with freedom of speech or assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, West said: An illegal occupation ? Why laughing? It was illegal in Hong Kong too. Democratic government had to act. "For the common good", how else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, blackbird said: I believe the illegal blockades of the railways, pipelines, etc. should have been dealt with quickly and they should have been removed. This country is self-destructing and allowing illegal blockades and occupations to carry on under the false claim that they are legitimate protests, which of course they are not. They have nothing to do with freedom of speech or assembly. Perhaps you and a few tanks can sort this out for the Dear Leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Shady said: It should be up to each individual as to the risk they’re willing to accept. It’s not up to the government to decide for me. So then why have the lockdown in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Lock downs only slow the spread they don't prevent it.... So you are in the "no lockdowns ever no matter how deadly and contagious" group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 The Conservative caucus has ousted O'Toole by a 61% vote. This could be partly because of his support of the trucker's convoy. He was a disaster. He likely alienated most Canadians. The problem is his replacement will probably also oppose the health measures and support the fringe anti-vax truckers. Most Canadians are not supporters of anti-vaxxers or anti-health measures. This will not help the Conservatives in the next election. The whole Conservative disaster is helping Trudeau and Liberals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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