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7 minutes ago, mowich said:

With all that has come to light about the shady dealings, financial irregularities, forced employee NDAs, firing of the chair and then the entire board by WE it is simply beyond belief that no one in the entire liberal government thought to simply google the so-called charity whilst doing their so-called 'due diligence'.  If this is the way entities are investigated by this government, I wonder how many other under-the-table deals are going on right now with no oversight what-so-ever.

Maybe the problem is that they did Google it, and they decided that's the kind of corporation that they want to do business with. It does look like something straight out of the Liberal playbook. 

Funny thing about socialists, they elect a guy like Trudeau because he talks a good game, and then when it's proven that he's less trustworthy than a fox in a henhouse, they still want to funnel all the money in the country through his sticky little fingers because they still like listening to him. 

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According to the link, it looks like MP's from all major parties took trips paid for by foreign governments. But because it's a link from the CBC, I couldn't help but notice that the author puts Polievre's name out front and centre. Well,it is a CBC link isn't it?

I'm not sure if every MP that takes these trips posts this information on his or her website for the sake of transparency. Since all parties engage in this sort of thing, they clearly want to be able to keep doing it. It's why they have put in a specific exemption for sponsored travel in their ethics code.

Perhaps the most flagrant example of this kind of junket would be Trudeau's vacation to the Aga-Khan's private island?

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On 8/1/2020 at 9:35 AM, WestCanMan said:

Funny thing about socialists, they elect a guy like Trudeau because he talks a good game, and then when it's proven that he's less trustworthy than a fox in a henhouse, they still want to funnel all the money in the country through his sticky little fingers because they still like listening to him. 

I'm betting the vast majority of Canadians have simply determined that letting conservatives run the country during this pandemic would be disaster.  In the meantime...

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While most Canadians don’t appear keen on a fall election, there is stronger support for a proper investigation into the We Charity affair.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/most-canadians-don-t-want-an-election-during-covid-19-nanos-survey-1.5047925

 

Trudeau should be pilloried for adding this WE horsehit onto the pile of problems we're facing right now.

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1 hour ago, PIK said:

Honourable men have resigned for a lot less.

Yes they have but as have found out Trudeau is not honourable.   In fact, he's much like Trump in that they both grew up wealthy and privileged, they are  narcissistic , detatched from reality and mistreat women.    https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-we-scandal-speaks-to-trudeaus-character-and-judgment/wcm/73ddee47-6764-40ec-b731-d7fe2a1e2a5c/

 

 

 

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On 7/30/2020 at 11:30 PM, marcus said:

How did you come to the conclusion that those are exec files being taken out of WE offices?

Add a link. Bring some value to your posts. Please.

There is lots of value, but you don't want to see it...   meanwhile 

According to Globe and Mail reporter, there are 11 U hauls in front of WE headquarters

https://twitter.com/Travisdhanraj/status/1290028768216547328

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1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Most people go into politics for power, not for honour or to serve their country.

Why do we put up with it? The only reasons I've ever been given is that no alternatives exist or people will faint in the face af frank talk.

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21 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm betting the vast majority of Canadians have simply determined that letting conservatives run the country during this pandemic would be disaster.  

Yeah luckily the Libs were in power when C19 hit.
 

Now even the dumbest Canadians know that leaving flights open from covid hotspots and telling us all not to wear masks right at the beginning of a new pandemic, just to prove we’re not racist, is colossally stupid. 
 

Wait, the dumbest Canadians still don’t know that yet. They think that was the right thing to do. 
 

Now covid is here and we’re all screwed. 
 

Only 99.98% of is will survive. 
 

Luckily this virus has a low kill rate or Trudeau would have wiped us all out. 

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13 hours ago, eyeball said:

Why do we put up with it? The only reasons I've ever been given is that no alternatives exist or people will faint in the face af frank talk.

How can you back every bit of Liberal/Dem idiocy to come down from CTV/CNN and then bemoan the lack of “frank talk”?

Do you go to comedy clubs and complain that they joke around too much?

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8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

How can you back every bit of Liberal/Dem idiocy to come down from CTV/CNN

Lets try this again...

I honestly don't how I can do this. You assert this happens routinely thru some mysterious means that you seem to be aware of yet never identify.

and then bemoan the lack of “frank talk”?

I said frank talk to a fellow poster who understands the context I said it in. You don't understand despite having ample opportunity to do so. This is why your comment on my reply to him is so retarded.

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15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Lets try this again...

I honestly don't how I can do this. You assert this happens routinely thru some mysterious means that you seem to be aware of yet never identify.

I know exactly how you do it. You don't question anything that you see there, no matter how blatantly false it is at the time it's said, or how horribly idiotic it looks with the benefit of hindsight. 

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I said frank talk to a fellow poster who understands the context I said it in. You don't understand despite having ample opportunity to do so. This is why your comment on my reply to him is so retarded.

If you mistakenly chose the words frank talk, too bad. FYI 'frank talk' is the exact opposite of what to expect from the politicians that you love, and it's what you hear from the politicians that you detest. 

Trudeau simply does not ever answer the questions that he is asked. To him, every question on any topic is an excuse to randomly virtue signal about loosely-related principles. Our MSM accepts his blather as answers, as do you. 

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7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I know exactly how you do it. You don't question anything that you see there, no matter how blatantly false it is at the time it's said, or how horribly idiotic it looks with the benefit of hindsight.

See what where, you mean you did identify CNN's means of controlling hundreds of millions of human being's thoughts and I missed it? I do apologize for that.  Could I trouble you for a refresher or a link to where you did this? 

FYI 'frank talk' is the exact opposite of what to expect from the politicians that you love, and it's what you hear from the politicians that you detest.

Frank talk, in the context I used, refers to why politicians prefer in-camera discussions. Politicians of virtually all stripes do and one of the most common arguments their most ardent partisans use against outlawing in-camera lobbying is that politicians need private places in which their frank discussions won't upset an excitable faint-at-heart electorate. I've pretty much been a very strong and vocal advocate of outlawing secrecy in the public's domain for some 12 years around here now.

Any bells ringing in there yet, at all?

Trudeau simply does not ever answer the questions that he is asked. To him, every question on any topic is an excuse to randomly virtue signal about loosely-related principles. Our MSM accepts his blather as answers, as do you

And despite everything I just said you'll maintain your position until Hell freezes over won't you?

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

See what where, you mean you did identify CNN's means of controlling hundreds of millions of human being's thoughts and I missed it? I do apologize for that.  

They report things.  You know, like Trump promising much better health care for cheaper ... Mexico paying for the wall ... Trump paying for the wall ... Trump paying prostitutes to not talk about him paying them for sex 

 

etc.

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On 8/2/2020 at 8:59 PM, eyeball said:

Why do we put up with it? The only reasons I've ever been given is that no alternatives exist or people will faint in the face af frank talk.

I don't know why we want other people (elected representatives) to determine laws we have to follow.  I'd rather vote on it myself and skip the crooked lying middle-men.

Our system has evolved slowly from an absolute monarchy.  It has always been designed by and for elites.  No different than in the US, where the constitution was designed by upper class white, college-educated, slave-owning men, in a time when like 3% of the popular went to college, and these people didn't trust the will of the people, hence the electoral college and elected representatives.

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On 8/2/2020 at 5:23 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

Most people go into politics for power, not for honour or to serve their country.

That has been exactly the opposite of what I have experienced.  The vast majority of people from any party seem to start their political lives with altruistic or at least dogmatic idealistic aspirations and intentions.   However, there IS a small faction of people who are not seeking power, but acting on the mechanism that is already there for them to carry out the power that the back rooms have always had.  THOSE people start their political life usually in cabinet, while the rest are stuck on the back benches - until that they learn the game.  Once they cave in to representing very powerful special interests, they become the animals that do the bidding of those who actually run this (and any other) country.

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16 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

They report things.  You know, like Trump promising much better health care for cheaper ... Mexico paying for the wall ... Trump paying for the wall ... Trump paying prostitutes to not talk about him paying them for sex 

 

etc.

Yeah their laundry list of lies and BS has been posted here many times. Most recently they have been denying that the protests were not peaceful. Beatings, murders, arson and looting are all 'peaceful' according to CNN.

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16 hours ago, cannuck said:

That has been exactly the opposite of what I have experienced.  The vast majority of people from any party seem to start their political lives with altruistic or at least dogmatic idealistic aspirations and intentions.   However, there IS a small faction of people who are not seeking power, but acting on the mechanism that is already there for them to carry out the power that the back rooms have always had.  THOSE people start their political life usually in cabinet, while the rest are stuck on the back benches - until that they learn the game.  Once they cave in to representing very powerful special interests, they become the animals that do the bidding of those who actually run this (and any other) country.

Yeah I agree with you.  The way Canada's system is set up, you can't get anywhere unless you kiss ass.  Look where Jody Wilson-raybould is right now.  She wouldn't play the game and now she's effed.

In the US system, the POTUS is't a part of the legislature like in Canada so the POTUS can't bully legislators in his party as much so things are a bit more equal that way, but everything is more based on campaign money and if you can't raise corporate funds you're at a big disadvantage.

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On 8/3/2020 at 10:32 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

I don't know why we want other people (elected representatives) to determine laws we have to follow.  I'd rather vote on it myself and skip the crooked lying middle-men.

I'm leaning more towards some sort of expertocracy...skip the stupid people altogether.  Our Constitution's preamble should be rewritten thusly, "Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the scientific process and the rule of law."  Like I said skip the stupid people altogether.

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Our system has evolved slowly from an absolute monarchy.  It has always been designed by and for elites.

That's because absolute monarchy is rooted in a bat-shit crazy religious belief system.

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No different than in the US, where the constitution was designed by upper class white, college-educated, slave-owning men, in a time when like 3% of the popular went to college, and these people didn't trust the will of the people, hence the electoral college and elected representatives.

There's always been an awful lot of Americans who subscribe to bat-shit crazy religious beliefs down there too don't forget.  The stupefying effect of this on a society can't be overstated.

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