Prediction: Trudeau wins a majority this Fall

[QuebecOverCanada]

According to CBC, Trudeau has above 25% chance to win a majority. Trudeau leads in Québec, Ontario and the Eastern Provinces. It's almost a tie in BC. The Conservatives only lead in the West.

[Dougie93]

Trudeau smash Diefenbaker.

Four more years of chaos.

Huzzah.

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

According to CBC, Trudeau has above 25% chance to win a majority. Trudeau leads in Québec, Ontario and the Eastern Provinces. It's almost a tie in BC. The Conservatives only lead in the West.

“According to Ministry of Propaganda” lol

[Rolfs]

Andrew Sheer is a weak candidate. If the Conservatives had ran with a competent leader, the Liberals would go down in defeat

[Nefarious Banana]

1 hour ago, Rolfs said:

Andrew Sheer is a weak candidate. If the Conservatives had ran with a competent leader, the Liberals would go down in defeat

As you mention above . . . .

This election isn't about the brain-dead socialist PM and his band of penguins, everyone can see how poorly our country has been served, it's about how much better a PC govt. will serve the citizens/electorate. Andrew Scheer just doesn't have the 'royal jelly' . . . . . Michelle Rempel or a few other members seem to have the 'fire' needed at this time.  

[Goh Shenas]

On 9/7/2019 at 2:13 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Why do you hate freedom ?  People can dress how they want.  We're not the Talliban.  I'm tired of rightista snowflake sentiments being put out all the time without a response.

If our PM wants to wear a dress, and thinks he can get away with it he can go ahead.  If somebody wants to wear a kippah I'm not going to have you tell them that they're not allowed to work for the civil service..

Can we please get past this reactionary mode of politics ?  

I hate the policies of gutless prime minister Trudeau. His immigration policies sucks inviting all these immigrants to Canada. Their values are not compliant. 

Image is important and he is perceived as a complete wuss by other world leaders.

 

 

[jacee]

On 9/4/2019 at 11:31 AM, QuebecOverCanada said:

1)And I'm very far from a Liberal, but let's face it, Trudeau is going to win comfortably this October.

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2)Jagmeet Singh has dragged the NDP to its lowest support since Jack died 8 years ago. It will help the Leftist vote to be more concentrated for Trudeau.

Trudeau is also first in Québec and Ontario and the Eastern provinces.

Links? 

1)Data I've seen is predicting a comfortable minority win, but not a majority.

2) NDP losses of votes are going to the Greens, not the Liberals.

People do not want a majority government. 

Only minority governments are accountable to the public.

Edited September 9, 2019 by jacee

[jacee]

On 9/4/2019 at 2:25 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

No son, it's just that the other parties are just that terrible.

 

Truth! 

Except the Greens, of course. Lol 

[jacee]

On 9/4/2019 at 6:36 PM, Zeitgeist said:

I miss Harper.  He was a much steadier hand.  

Fossil fuel corporations running the country? 

No thanks.

Canadians are saying no to that.

To be credible, Conservatives are going to have to shift their base out of Alberta now, or they'll lose their rural base across the country. 

Greens are becoming the choice of small c Conservative small-business farming communities across the country. 

The western corporate fossil fuel Party just isn't speaking to their needs anymore. 

The blue swathe across less populated rural Canada is breaking up because of the long run of western corporate fossil fuel power, that doesn't serve their needs now or in the future. 

Catering to dog whistle anti-Muslim politics is just nonsense, and they're smarter than that.

Edited September 9, 2019 by jacee

[QuebecOverCanada]

According to QC125, which is quite reliable, Trudeau is on his way for 166 seats.

[Rolfs]

1 hour ago, jacee said:

Fossil fuel corporations running the country? 

No thanks.

Canadians are saying no to that.

To be credible, Conservatives are going to have to shift their base out of Alberta now, or they'll lose their rural base across the country. 

Greens are becoming the choice of small c Conservative small-business farming communities across the country. 

The western corporate fossil fuel Party just isn't speaking to their needs anymore. 

The blue swathe across less populated rural Canada is breaking up because of the long run of western corporate fossil fuel power, that doesn't serve their needs now or in the future. 

Catering to dog whistle anti-Muslim politics is just nonsense, and they're smarter than that.

Fossil fuels helped pay for the transfer payments nearly every other province received. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Rolfs said:

Fossil fuels helped pay for the transfer payments nearly every other province received. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

Economic nationalism is for rubes.

Just entrenched narrowly vested  interests trying to incite you to rally around their interests alone, against the interests of the majority.

Transfer payments are simply transferring debt financing, it's a burden not a boon.

With the onset of the Information Age sweeping aside the Industrial, oil is in fact mired in a long term structural depression.

In the 21st century, Information is the most valuable commodity on earth already.

To include the information which diagnoses Canada's Dutch Disease.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Dougie93

[Goh Shenas]

44 minutes ago, Rolfs said:

Fossil fuels helped pay for the transfer payments nearly every other province received. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

It’s a problem with these lefties: muslem sympathisers that blame the Western governments for everything. Heck we are blamed for taking resources from these Arab rich countries. Those damn imperialist countries.

[Dougie93]

26 minutes ago, Goh Shenas said:

Those damn imperialist countries.

British Imperialist countries.

House of Saud.

Iraq.

Iran

Egypt

All legal constructs of the British Crown.

Former Protectorates of the British Empire.

 

[jacee]

1 hour ago, Rolfs said:

Fossil fuels helped pay for the transfer payments nearly every other province received. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

Because fossil fuels are killing us all.

We need a government that plans for future clean industries, not ones stuck in the past, dependent on resource-extraction and environmental destruction.

Short term monetary gain = long term pain.

[Spiderfish]

5 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

As you mention above . . . .

This election isn't about the brain-dead socialist PM and his band of penguins, everyone can see how poorly our country has been served, it's about how much better a PC govt. will serve the citizens/electorate. Andrew Scheer just doesn't have the 'royal jelly' . . . . . Michelle Rempel or a few other members seem to have the 'fire' needed at this time.  

I think either Michelle Rempel, or Lisa Raitt would be very solid in the leadership role for the party.  I also think someone like Pierre Poilievre would be a good choice. 

It is incomprehensible to me that Trudeau has any support left in this country.  I don't see this as so much a reflection of Trudeau's incompetence, or even of Scheer's, as much as it is a result of the apparent acceptance of corruption and incompetence by Canadian voters.  It's very disappointing, and actually worrisome that Canadian voters can place such a low value on ethics and performance, and be swayed so easily by pandering, hollow virtue signalling and hypocritical lecturing from a leader who is quite obviously out of his depth.  It will be interesting to see what the reaction of the West will be if this clown is re-elected.

[Shady]

On 9/4/2019 at 3:49 PM, Argus said:

His big support is in Ontario and Quebec. Ontario conservative support plunged after suffering very slight budget cuts by Ford. The people of this province are horrified at the "DESTRUCTION" of our education and health care system. Every day the media is in full horror mode as it shows us more poor college kids who can't go to university because of the cruelty of Ford, or this or that group protesting at cuts to desperately needed health care. Ford's cuts are about 1/10th as severe as Mike Harris did when he got in, but there's no sense of context whatsoever. Ontarions don't understand budget cuts. Budgets are only ever supposed to increase! And if you must cut the budget, how can you be so cruel as to cut health care! Or education!? Or social welfare programs!?

That these make up virtually all the Ontario budget is not something Ontarions understand or care about. Any cuts for any reason are unacceptable.

As for Quebec, it is doing as it invariably does, voting for the French guy.

Not to mention the necessary cuts of the Chrétien/Martin government of the mid to late 90s.  Huge across the board cuts because of bad debt to gdp ratios.  Those helped pave the way for Canada’s fiscal accomplishments regarding surpluses and debt pay down.  Until now.

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, jacee said:

Truth! 

Except the Greens, of course. Lol 

Elizabeth May's ideas are nutty.  I'm sorry but it's true.  She'd ruin the country just like the other goof leaders would, only in different ways.

The Green are what the NDP used to be before they went mainstream, with an emphasis on environmental issues.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, jacee said:

Because fossil fuels are killing us all.

We need a government that plans for future clean industries, not ones stuck in the past, dependent on resource-extraction and environmental destruction.

Short term monetary gain = long term pain.

Green energy, unless you're talking about nuclear, is not going to do anything much about CO2.

Even put together, wind and photovoltaic solar are supplying less than 1 per cent of global energy demand. From the International Energy Agency’s 2016 Key Renewables Trends, we can see that wind provided 0.46 per cent of global energy consumption in 2014, and solar and tide combined provided 0.35 per cent. Remember this is total energy, not just electricity, which is less than a fifth of all final energy, the rest being the solid, gaseous, and liquid fuels that do the heavy lifting for heat, transport and industry.

Meanwhile, world energy demand has been growing at about 2 per cent a year for nearly 40 years. Between 2013 and 2014, again using International Energy Agency data, it grew by just under 2,000 terawatt-hours.

If wind turbines were to supply all of that growth but no more, how many would need to be built each year? The answer is nearly 350,000, since a two-megawatt turbine can produce about 0.005 terawatt-hours per annum. That’s one-and-a-half times as many as have been built in the world since governments started pouring consumer funds into this so-called industry in the early 2000s.

At a density of, very roughly, 50 acres per megawatt, typical for wind farms, that many turbines would require a land area greater than the British Isles, including Ireland. Every year. If we kept this up for 50 years, we would have covered every square mile of a land area the size of Russia with wind farms. Remember, this would be just to fulfil the new demand for energy, not to displace the vast existing supply of energy from fossil fuels, which currently supply 80 per cent of global energy needs.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/wind-turbines-are-neither-clean-nor-green-and-they-provide-zero-global-energy/

 

[jacee]

16 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Elizabeth May's ideas are nutty.  I'm sorry but it's true.  She'd ruin the country just like the other goof leaders would, only in different ways.

 

The other goofs are destroying the country, and the planet.

Liberal and Conservative politicians only look 4 years ahead because that's all we hold them accountable for.

 Here's a novel idea: Let's look farther ahead and vote for the future. 

Edited September 10, 2019 by jacee

[dialamah]

18 hours ago, Spiderfish said:

It is incomprehensible to me that Trudeau has any support left in this country

Perhaps the alternatives seem worse? Not to mention, people are pretty inured to our government and charges of corruption - it is a staple, regardless of ideology of the government in power.  I also read something the other day ( sorry, no cite) that a surprising number of people hadn't heard of the SNC Lavalin affair.  

Also, Trudeaumeter tells us that out of 231 campaign promises, JT has fulfilled 108, is working on 47, has 27 yet to begin and broke 46.  The promises he broke were pretty big, so he's lost support from people who cared about those issues. Still, he's fulfilled more than he's broken.  That may matter to some people.

 

[Spiderfish]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

Perhaps the alternatives seem worse? Not to mention, people are pretty inured to our government and charges of corruption - it is a staple, regardless of ideology of the government in power.  I also read something the other day ( sorry, no cite) that a surprising number of people hadn't heard of the SNC Lavalin affair.  

Also, Trudeaumeter tells us that out of 231 campaign promises, JT has fulfilled 108, is working on 47, has 27 yet to begin and broke 46.  The promises he broke were pretty big, so he's lost support from people who cared about those issues. Still, he's fulfilled more than he's broken.  That may matter to some people.

Projection and cynicism of future leadership is a pathetic excuse for accepting current corruption.  People who engage in this earn exactly the leadership they deserve.  Unfortunately, the rest of us who actually care are dragged along for the ride.

As I have said previously, last election Trudeau was a relative unknown to some who weren't paying attention and their ignorance could maybe be understood.  Not this time, however...this time we know precisely who Trudeau is.  If Canada decides to elect this fool, it's on us....this time ignorance cannot be used as a credible excuse.

Edited September 10, 2019 by Spiderfish

[dialamah]

30 minutes ago, Spiderfish said:

Unfortunately, the rest of us who actually care are dragged along for the ride.

So I do not particularly like JT either, but I prefer liberal policies over conservative policies.  Do I vote against Liberals because I don't like JT, even though overall I prefer their policies over conservatives?

In any case, I'm probably going to vote Green this time around.  I'm hoping for a minority government, either Liberal or Conservative, doesn't much matter to me.

53 minutes ago, Spiderfish said:

If Canada decides to elect this fool, it's on us....this time ignorance cannot be used as a credible excuse.

So this and other statements I've seen by the anti-Trudeau brigade suggest that JT is "destroying" the country, yet there is no evidence of that.  We have problems, sure, but most people's lives have changed very little under JT and some people have even seen an improvement.  We're still among the safest countries in which to live, and most of us have luxuries beyond imagination for 3/4 of the world.  The same would no doubt be true if Harper had been re-elected, of if Scheer gets elected this time.

The threat of DOOM due to JT/liberals is vague, and even when asked for particulars, the doomsayers can rarely point to anything specific, merely regurgitating fears about deficits and refugees/immigrants.  Both conservative governments and liberal governments run deficits and accept refugees/immigrants, so it's hard to see how it's so much more destructive under Liberals.

Also, good on you for caring about corruption in politics.  I do agree with you that people should care more.  I don't agree that either the Liberals or Conservatives are either better or worse in that regard.

[Shady]

12 minutes ago, dialamah said:

So this and other statements I've seen by the anti-Trudeau brigade suggest that JT is "destroying" the country, yet there is no evidence of that. 

Agreed.  The country isn't destroyed.  My biggest problem with Trudeau is his spending.  Canada sacrificed quite a lot in terms of budget cuts in the mid to late 90s.  It set us on an excellent path towards fiscal sustainability.  We were the only country of the G7 to be balancing budgets consistently, running surpluses consistently, and paying down significant debt.  In 4 years he's added all of the debt that was paid off over the last 15-20 years.  As a result, were going to be using more and more tax dollars to just pay the interest on our debt.  I don't know about you, but I can think of a lot better uses of tens of billions of dollars every year than to just pay interest on debt.

[Nefarious Banana]

28 minutes ago, Shady said:

My biggest problem with Trudeau is his spending.  Canada sacrificed quite a lot in terms of budget cuts in the mid to late 90's.  It set us on an excellent path towards fiscal sustainability.  We were the only country of the G7 to be balancing budgets consistently, running surpluses consistently, and paying down significant debt.  In 4 years he's added all of the debt that was paid off over the last 15-20 years.  As a result, were going to be using more and more tax dollars to just pay the interest on our debt.  I can think of a lot better uses of tens of billions of dollars every year than to just pay interest on debt.

Whether you liked Harper or not, he ran this country like the business it is.  He had the credentials and used them.  As Shady mentions above, Trudeau maybe hasn't ruined the country, but he's set us back financially for at least a decade . . . and, we've got nothing to show for it.  Elect a fool, and you'll get foolish laws and decisions.  If re-elected, there's a real chance this country will be ruined.  Trudeau has proven to be the dumbest, most destructive thing that has happened to Canada in a very long time.  Vote accordingly . . .