Should Donald Trump win a Nobel Peace Prize?

[Centerpiece]

For decades, "diplomacy" had gotten nowhere with North Korea - leading to a steady buildup of nuclear capabilities. Then along came Donald Trump - made it clear to North Korea that "enough is enough". That stick and carrot approach has us on the brink of a potentially historic break-through that could lead the de-nuclearization of the North but just as important, a thawing in international relations that might see the Hermit Nation start to re-engage. 

Al Gore shared a Nobel Peace Prize with the IPCC for "for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change" Barack Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize for "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples"

Surely, if North Korea makes substantial strides towards peace and normalization - Donald Trump should win a Nobel Peace Prize or perhaps share one with Kim Jong Un?

 

 

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[Hal 9000]

I always wondered what Obama won it for...Huh!

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[CITIZEN_2015]

Great now a dictator and mass murderer like Kin jong Un of oppressive North Korea should win Nobel peace price. May be later the Ayatolah too and while at it he may make peace with Assad too, so he may be nominated too. Never mind all the past crimes but since he was forced to make peace then he suddenly becomes a man of peace rather than what he really is (a man of piece)!!!!!.

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[AngusThermopyle]

15 hours ago, Hal 9000 said:

I always wondered what Obama won it for...Huh!

It was a token, as so many of them are now.

[GostHacked]

1 minute ago, AngusThermopyle said:

It was a token, as so many of them are now.

Agreed, the 'prize' does not mean a thing, because I have yet to see one POTUS actually bring peace to an area. Just more war.

[cannuck]

On 5/10/2018 at 8:27 AM, GostHacked said:

Agreed, the 'prize' does not mean a thing, because I have yet to see one POTUS actually bring peace to an area. Just more war.

Roosevelt certainly brought peace to the Asia-Pacific and played his belated (but crucial) part in Europe.

[GostHacked]

24 minutes ago, cannuck said:

Roosevelt certainly brought peace to the Asia-Pacific and played his belated (but crucial) part in Europe.

Interesting that we need to go back that far to find an example of good happening.

[cannuck]

I can not think of much "good" about WWII, but the US was instrumental in bringing peace both during the war and for many years thereafter (especially with Marshall Plan).

[Boges]

TBF he's done more to earn one that Obama.

But then again, take a look what's happening in Israel today. And what could be the fallout from leaving the Iran deal. 

[taxme]

On 5/9/2018 at 11:56 AM, Centerpiece said:

For decades, "diplomacy" had gotten nowhere with North Korea - leading to a steady buildup of nuclear capabilities. Then along came Donald Trump - made it clear to North Korea that "enough is enough". That stick and carrot approach has us on the brink of a potentially historic break-through that could lead the de-nuclearization of the North but just as important, a thawing in international relations that might see the Hermit Nation start to re-engage. 

Al Gore shared a Nobel Peace Prize with the IPCC for "for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change" Barack Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize for "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples"

Surely, if North Korea makes substantial strides towards peace and normalization - Donald Trump should win a Nobel Peace Prize or perhaps share one with Kim Jong Un?

 

 

But time has shown us that Obama did nothing of the sort. He sure did not make or strengthen any kind of diplomacy in America for corporation between his own people. Christ, Obama was only president for a few months when he received the Nobel Peace Prize. Hardly enough time to do anything. That was one big farce and a display for the globalist elite to say this is the man, man.   Trump is taking on all the Obama leaders of all the crooked and corrupt world countries and it is about time. I wonder what our own dear leader has ever done for the world? Can you name any? Just asking. 

[BubberMiley]

I can't imagine the reaction if Obama had sucked up to Kim so pathetically as Trump has. Now Kim has him right where he wants him, begging for a meeting just to save face.

[bush_cheney2004]

The only one begging right now is Justin Trudeau....begging Trump to save NAFTA.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-trump-nafta-phone-call-1.4663848

[BubberMiley]

Actually Canada has already hedged its bets with its other trading partners. The people begging Trump not to try to renegotiate Nafta are U.S. exporters. They know he isn't knowledgeable enough about trade to get a better deal. It will be disastrous for them, and his equally clueless (but nihilistic) minions will be encouraging him to push the country to failure, because Obama.

Meanwhile, as the Middle East falls apart, Kim has him prostrate and can now do whatever he wants. 

[bush_cheney2004]

Trudeau called Trump....because Trump matters more than Trudeau....on NAFTA, DPRK, and Middle East.

Trudeau has visited the U.S. sixteen (16) times as prime minister, but Trump has yet to visit Canada as president.

Maybe Trump will finally go to Canada next month, but he doesn't have to...not desperate like Trudeau and his "minions".

 

 

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[BubberMiley]

David Frum wrote a good summary of how naive Trump and his supporters were with NK, and how now they're essentially screwed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/560621/?utm_source=gltw&__twitter_impression=true

(But Trudeau! But Trudeau! Lol)

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[bush_cheney2004]

President Trump is still preparing for a summit with Kim....doesn't have time to baby sit Trudeau and Freeland continued whining about NAFTA.

[eyeball]

Maybe we should test a nuke ourselves...seems to be the fastest ticket to respectability these days.

[betsy]

Of course, anti-Trumps will call him naive in his dealing with NK.  You think the Dems aren't hoping everything will fall apart?  It's you who's naive.....if you think the Dems are rooting for the summit to happen.    They'll always find something to criticize.

Anyway........they always want peaceful talks.  How will there ever be a chance for peaceful talks if we don't give the possibility a chance?   Especially when a goodwill gesture was given - the release of the three prisoners.  Whether the summit happens or not, at least, the prisoners are now home.  That was accomplished!   Hopefully, no Americans will ever venture in North Korea.

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[BubberMiley]

8 minutes ago, betsy said:

You think the Dems aren't hoping everything will fall apart?  It's you who's naive.....if you think the Dems are rooting for the summit to happen.    They'll always find something to criticize.

David Frum is a Republican.

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

David Frum is a Republican.

Far be it for one of his supporters to have heard of David Frum.  This is the choicest quote:

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Perhaps unaware that the North Koreans have sought such a summit meeting for decades, Trump boasts that he has extracted a major concession.

Trump has been played here.  He will have to pay up and give concessions to save face politically.  When he does, his supporters will program another victory for The Donald.

[bush_cheney2004]

David Frum is another "Canadian American" who came to prominence during the Bush #43 administration, and seeks to continue milking that gig.

I guess politics is far more exciting and significant in the United States.

Trump has nothing to apologize for compared to who got played by the DPRK during Clinton, Bush, and Obama terms.

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[Michael Hardner]

46 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

I guess politics is far more exciting and significant in the United States.

You 'guess' ?  There are few things under the sun more obvious than this statement.

 

46 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 Trump has nothing to apologize for compared to who got played by the DPRK during Clinton, Bush, and Obama terms.

He never has anything to apologize for, whether it's for paying off porn stars out of campaign funds or fomenting constitutional crises.  But might makes right is the morality, and as such he's our most moral president ever.  (Yes, I said "our" )

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You 'guess' ?  There are few things under the sun more obvious than this statement.

 

If Trumps get a Nobel for being "played", then it is very obvious.

 

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He never has anything to apologize for, whether it's for paying off porn stars out of campaign funds or fomenting constitutional crises.  But might makes right is the morality, and as such he's our most moral president ever.  (Yes, I said "our" )

 

What happens in the USA seems to matter a lot to some Canadians....if only for more interesting content.

Apologizing is more of a Trudeau / Canadian thing.

[BubberMiley]

I agree. When Trump does something naïve and embarrassing, we should always change the subject to Trudeau and Canada.

[Michael Hardner]

14 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

What happens in the USA seems to matter a lot to some Canadians....if only for more interesting content.

Apologizing is more of a Trudeau / Canadian thing.

Not just more interesting content, but also for learnings.  We are always just a little behind.  Sorry.