The Battle of Charlottesville

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

The right are getting sick of being pizzed on all the time by the leftist cultural marxists who only want to create violence, and not peace. The right is starting to fight back, and it is not going to be veypretty for the left when the right takes their country and freedom back. What they have sown today, they will reap and weep over tomorrow for what they have sown. Fun times ahead. Stay tuned. 

Bring it on.  The right-wing can go piss up a rope.

[bush_cheney2004]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Bring it on.  The right-wing can go piss up a rope.

 

That's what the hippies said 50 years ago...then they decided that corporate globalism was better.....buys much better dope.

 

 

[drummindiver]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

I haven't fished for years.  And as I'm sure you must know first hand they use direct deposit now. 

Lol. Nope, no pogey for this kid. Still collecting though, huh?

[cannuck]

23 hours ago, Cum Laude said:

Do I detest the likes of the NYT, New Yorker and all those likewise self-appointed judges? You can’t imagine. They laud the supposed ”creative” class, you know, the white-collar “educated” ones. But just what have they created? Trivialities like Snapchat? Or end-of-the-road capitalist endeavors like Uber (glorified taxi driving)? Can you live without these? Will you die?

They think it’s a good idea to export the livelihoods of millions of Americans. Could they be more transparently in the pockets of the Oligarch-Davos class? They destroy the viability of that very place they need to survive both economically and socially. Do they seriously think that they themselves will survive this destruction?

What they have created is a smokescreen.   The Uniparty delights in the left/right battle as it completely obscures what they have done - hijacked the economy.  The US (and many other nations) were built by creating wealth.   Wealth can ONLY be created by adding value to a resource, or delivery of services required to add value to a resource.  ALL other activities merely re-distribute wealth that was created by employing capital to be productive.   Doesn't matter if we are speaking about social services, crime or speculative "investment".  Since the Fed members literally bought and paid for several administrations, they have continued along the path to legislating a laissez-faire financial regulatory system that allows the "market" value of equities, and the assumed value of derivatives to inflate beyond any responsible range.  ALL of that activity is nothing but exactly what the "right" has been duped into believing the "left" thinks it does differently - simply redistribute wealth.   Problem is, when you can multiply the "value" of an equity 1000x by trading its market value vs. book value, or you can take literally nothing but a bet on a bet (i.e. a derivative, or as Wall Street calls them: ""synthetic instruments"), you de-fund Main Street (where ALL wealth is - WAS - created) and with it goes all of the blue collar jobs...you remember them?   The ones that CREATED all of the wealth upon which the speculative economy preys.   And, ALL of that increase in the money supply that has to be printed to cover the massive inflation of speculative economic activity is nothing but a liability to the taxpayer (both as cash debt, unfunded future liabilities but most of all, pent up inflationary forces behind the greenback).

Why would they do this?   Simple: there is only one place on the planet where private interests own the central bank and can cash in personally on everything that takes place in finance and currency transactions.

As with so many other things, it's not about the politics, its all about the money.

[Cum Laude]

19 minutes ago, cannuck said:

What they have created is a smokescreen.   The Uniparty delights in the left/right battle as it completely obscures what they have done - hijacked the economy.  The US (and many other nations) were built by creating wealth.   Wealth can ONLY be created by adding value to a resource, or delivery of services required to add value to a resource.  ALL other activities merely re-distribute wealth that was created by employing capital to be productive.   Doesn't matter if we are speaking about social services, crime or speculative "investment".  Since the Fed members literally bought and paid for several administrations, they have continued along the path to legislating a laissez-faire financial regulatory system that allows the "market" value of equities, and the assumed value of derivatives to inflate beyond any responsible range.  ALL of that activity is nothing but exactly what the "right" has been duped into believing the "left" thinks it does differently - simply redistribute wealth.   Problem is, when you can multiply the "value" of an equity 1000x by trading its market value vs. book value, or you can take literally nothing but a bet on a bet (i.e. a derivative, or as Wall Street calls them: ""synthetic instruments"), you de-fund Main Street (where ALL wealth is - WAS - created) and with it goes all of the blue collar jobs...you remember them?   The ones that CREATED all of the wealth upon which the speculative economy preys.   And, ALL of that increase in the money supply that has to be printed to cover the massive inflation of speculative economic activity is nothing but a liability to the taxpayer (both as cash debt, unfunded future liabilities but most of all, pent up inflationary forces behind the greenback).

Why would they do this?   Simple: there is only one place on the planet where private interests own the central bank and can cash in personally on everything that takes place in finance and currency transactions.

As with so many other things, it's not about the politics, its all about the money.

We won’t change. History has proven over and over again that societies in the midst of catastrophic collapse foolishly double down on the lunacy that got them there in the first place rather than come to grips with the painful change that might possibly save them, or at least minimize their collapse. But at this point, that ship has sailed as well. We’re committed to our current course of (in)action now, no matter what the consequences.

[cannuck]

1 minute ago, Cum Laude said:

We won’t change. History has proven over and over again that societies in the midst of catastrophic collapse foolishly double down on the lunacy that got them there in the first place rather than come to grips with the painful change that might possibly save them, or at least minimize their collapse. But at this point, that ship has sailed as well. We’re committed to our current course of (in)action now, no matter what the consequences.

I respectfully disagree.  Unfortunately, what I believe you and I can agree upon is that it takes a serious disaster before the ignorance and complacency are replaced by some introspective thought.  1929 did just that, as did WWII.   Unfortunately, the salvation of the US economy (and by extension, that of the world) came when the excesses of greed and financial malfeasance  SHOULD have crashed the speculative house of Casino Capitalism, the success of letting Goldman Sucks own the policy platform meant rewarding the perpetrators for the crimes, not letting them go broke as they so richly deserved (broke and jailed, that is).

The country CAN recover, but not until it suffers the long overdue disaster to get people to look at the real problems instead of choking in the smokescreen.

[Cum Laude]

Just now, cannuck said:

I respectfully disagree.  Unfortunately, what I believe you and I can agree upon is that it takes a serious disaster before the ignorance and complacency are replaced by some introspective thought.  1929 did just that, as did WWII.   Unfortunately, the salvation of the US economy (and by extension, that of the world) came when the excesses of greed and financial malfeasance  SHOULD have crashed the speculative house of Casino Capitalism, the success of letting Goldman Sucks own the policy platform meant rewarding the perpetrators for the crimes, not letting them go broke as they so richly deserved (broke and jailed, that is).

The country CAN recover, but not until it suffers the long overdue disaster to get people to look at the real problems instead of choking in the smokescreen.

I appreciate your civility and thoughts. Frantic, red-hot money-printing by the world’s big central banks have made it possible for very many people to ignore the unfolding reality. This “solution” is highly flawed because the imbalance such an excess creates will at some point be a whole new problem in and of itself, or some “Black Swan” event will throw the system into disarray. I think this will actually happen quite sooner than most folks here realize. That's my opinion.

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, drummindiver said:

Lol. Nope, no pogey for this kid. Still collecting though, huh?

Nope, pension. So get out there and keep paying me your share of the burden.

 

[hot enough]

On 8/21/2017 at 1:56 PM, taxme said:

ANTIFA is fascist. Just look at all the violence they are committing. Have you not been watching it all on TV? Obviously you are getting to much of your information from the liberal fake and phony lying media which tries to portray ANTIFA as peaceful anti-fascists. It is the white nationalist movement that is anti-fascist and who are peaceful.. But when you refuse to listen to news outlets like FOX to get the other side of the story well you obviously don't know nothing at all.  At least FOX tells it like it is. The truth which you do not want to hear. 

If your test for being fascist is violence, then the USA is the most fascist group/nation that has ever existed, bar none. 

I don't watch the vast wasteland that is television. 

Yeah, Fox is big on exposing the lies of 911. 

[Cum Laude]

1 hour ago, hot enough said:

If your test for being fascist is violence, then the USA is the most fascist group/nation that has ever existed, bar none. 

I don't watch the vast wasteland that is television. 

Yeah, Fox is big on exposing the lies of 911. 

Ahhh, the dream of a Utopia.Uutopianism usually ends up with gulags, extermination camps, and complete societal disintegration like what’s happening now in Venezuela.

Here’s a little bit of information I gleaned reading about the Spanish Civil War. Stalin sent thousands of Cheka/NKVD secret police to ‘help’ the Spanish Republic in their fight against fascism. They set up dozens of concentration camps across Spain, not to hold Franco’s nationalist POWs, but to liquidate loyal leftist soldiers and citizens that did not hew to the Stalinist party line. Here’s the kicker: in these camps crematoria was set up to destroy the bodies of the prisoners that were liquidated, to cover up the murders. Why has it taken this long for this information to be revealed?

A little while back in Connecticut, Hartford police, with much fanfare and publicity, sponsored a ‘gun buyback’ event on Saturday. All the local media were on hand to cover it. And to green it up, which seems necessary these days, it was announced the guns were being melted down and turned into gardening tools. The hope is, thousands of people down there living on welfare and junk food will suddenly start growing peas and lettuce. “Swords into plowshares” is the motto here. Well, a few hours after that, right around the corner, a guy was shot in the head. He’s dead. Its like the ‘Peace’ and ‘Non-violence’ rallies they stage; at every one of them a bunch of people end getting shot, it never fails. Utopia!!!

[taxme]

13 hours ago, eyeball said:

Bring it on.  The right-wing can go piss up a rope.

It will be more like the right wing will be pissing all over the fascists leftist thugs in the coming days. Bring it on. 

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, Cum Laude said:

Ahhh, the dream of a Utopia.Uutopianism usually ends up with gulags, extermination camps, and complete societal disintegration like what’s happening now in Venezuela.

Here’s a little bit of information I gleaned reading about the Spanish Civil War. Stalin sent thousands of Cheka/NKVD secret police to ‘help’ the Spanish Republic in their fight against fascism. They set up dozens of concentration camps across Spain, not to hold Franco’s nationalist POWs, but to liquidate loyal leftist soldiers and citizens that did not hew to the Stalinist party line. Here’s the kicker: in these camps crematoria was set up to destroy the bodies of the prisoners that were liquidated, to cover up the murders. Why has it taken this long for this information to be revealed?

 

You have got this backwards. The US has the gulags, Guantanamo, and all the other black holes in countries where the US has their right wing, always right wing, fascist dictatorships. The US is the nation that has always sold "Utopia". All the while illegally invading other poor defenseless third world nations just to steal their wealth. Countries like Venezuela, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Mexico, ...

You are unaware of all the murderous US genocides that have been revealed and they are still hidden. 

[hot enough]

15 minutes ago, taxme said:

It will be more like the right wing will be pissing all over the fascists leftist thugs in the coming days. Bring it on. 

You do grasp that fascist and leftist are oxymoronic, don't you?

[taxme]

1 hour ago, hot enough said:

If your test for being fascist is violence, then the USA is the most fascist group/nation that has ever existed, bar none. 

I don't watch the vast wasteland that is television. 

Yeah, Fox is big on exposing the lies of 911. 

As Rodney King once said "why can't we all just get along". Well that will never happen until the likes of Soros and his fascist thugs are defeated. 

Indeed. There is lot's of crap on TV. I mostly only watch nature programs on TV. I watch FOX because it is the only media on TV that comes close to reporting the real facts and news. 

No one is big on trying to expose the real truth about 9/11 because the elite establishment will never allow it to happen. If they did the ones involved in this conspiracy would all find themselves in prison. 

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, taxme said:

As Rodney King once said "why can't we all just get along". Well that will never happen until the likes of Soros and his fascist thugs are defeated. 

Repeating the Soros and Zionist bogeymen over and over alerts new posters that you have a crackpot agenda.  So keep doing it.  And don't forget Skeletor.

1 minute ago, taxme said:

Indeed. There is lot's of crap on TV. I mostly only watch nature programs on TV. I watch FOX because it is the only media on TV that comes close to reporting the real facts and news. 

When they criticize Trump do you believe that too ?  Or is some Zionist who crept onto the set through the Jew door ?

1 minute ago, taxme said:

No one is big on trying to expose the real truth about 9/11 because the elite establishment will never allow it to happen. If they did the ones involved in this conspiracy would all find themselves in prison. 

You seem to shop at the WalMart of bad ideas.  What about Nazism ?  Oh, right, you won't answer that one.

[hot enough]

12 minutes ago, taxme said:

Well that will never happen until the likes of Soros and his fascist thugs are defeated. 

Another right wing meme that one hears a lot - Soros this, Soros that.

[DogOnPorch]

Soros indeed has a horse in this race. His first one went lame back in November.

[taxme]

2 minutes ago, hot enough said:

You do grasp that fascist and leftist are oxymoronic, don't you?

Both fascists and leftists are one and the same and both are trying to destroy America. It is the anti-fascists and anti-leftists that the white nationalists will eliminate one day. It all will just take time but it will happen. As the white nationalists have said in their rallies "they will never give up until their victory".  The silent right majority are starting to come around. 

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You seem to shop at the WalMart of bad ideas.  What about Nazism ?  Oh, right, you won't answer that one.

You must bump into each other a lot, Michael. You ought not to point fingers. You are a master of deception when it comes to not answering questions. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

Soros indeed has a horse in this race. His first one went lame back in November.

As to the Koch brothers.  People contribute to the candidates they like.  The right-wing fear machine will make certain ones into evil masterminds who have their hands on all the levers.  Somehow Trump won, though, which seems to mean that the bogeymen can't do it all.

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, hot enough said:

You must bump into each other a lot, Michael. You ought not to point fingers. You are a master of deception when it comes to not answering questions. 

I have answered all your questions, but if you ask them twice you have to go back to the first answer.  Use the Search feature.  It is your friend.

[hot enough]

11 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Soros indeed has a horse in this race. His first one went lame back in November.

I've always been impressed with how you can make so many, all your statements, with no evidence/proof at all. That is the sign of a true right winger. 

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

As to the Koch brothers.  People contribute to the candidates they like.  The right-wing fear machine will make certain ones into evil masterminds who have their hands on all the levers.  Somehow Trump won, though, which seems to mean that the bogeymen can't do it all.

 

One look at her rallies vs Trump's could have answered that for anybody with eyes.

Edited August 24, 2017 by DogOnPorch

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I have answered all your questions,

Not even close, Michael. The search meme is a big favorite among the right wing crowd.

[Cum Laude]

14 minutes ago, hot enough said:

You have got this backwards. The US has the gulags, Guantanamo, and all the other black holes in countries where the US has their right wing, always right wing, fascist dictatorships. The US is the nation that has always sold "Utopia". All the while illegally invading other poor defenseless third world nations just to steal their wealth. Countries like Venezuela, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Mexico, ...

You are unaware of all the murderous US genocides that have been revealed and they are still hidden. 

It's time for you to take the Che Guevara poster off your wall.