Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

[WestCoastRunner]

I hear ya! It was harder that I thought, and it looks like I have to go even further for Waldo.

Anyway, Good to see you back!

Gotta watch out for Waldo.

Edited May 17, 2016 by WestCoastRunner

[BC_chick]

He and Bernie have been using the same strategy "It's a movement" "a revolution", "the establishment is corrupt and against me". Trumps next move - and it's not a stretch because it's already begun, is to side with Bernie's plights and say some of the same things as Bernie and convince Bernie people that they should side with him.

I think we need a Trump/Sanders ticket.

[Derek 2.0]

I think we need a Trump/Sanders ticket.

I've been saying it for months, both their economic/trade policies aren't that far apart, likewise their leveraging of populism and social policy (where Trump fits into the same box as many progressives).........I admit, I'm floored that a member of the GOP "establishment" didn't win their race.........and absent the Democrats gerrymandering with Super Delegates that give Clinton such a big lead, Sanders would be giving Clinton a run for her money and could have pulled off a win........

This of course is why I'm not surprised to see the polls indicating with a Clinton win, upwards of of 1/3rd of Sanders supporters will go Trump........even several weeks ago I was convinced Clinton would wipe the floor with Trump, helped by moderate Republicans not voting or voting Clinton, but with the several additional polls showing Trump tied or leading Clinton, I'd need a Trump size dose of hubris to proclaim an eventual Clinton win......

Edited May 20, 2016 by Derek 2.0

[cannuck]

What I fear about a Trump presidency is that, while he is completely outside of the political "old boys' club" he is very much part of the business world that has destroyed the US economy. He is a speculator and developer, not a producer. The US economy rose to dizzying heights by creating wealth, and it is crashing into the abys because it now thinks it can run an economy based on wealth re-distribution. The main line of the Uniparty simply exchanges deck chairs on the Titanic - each seeking to grant privilege to their lobbies to line up at the trough. Trump will change none of that. Only Sanders had the right stuff to solve the US - and the developed and developing world's problems. Trump's surprising round of strength in the Republican primaries IMHO is what drove popularity of Billary to put a big name on their candidate, instead of one who was right on the money.

BTW: As I routinely tell my US business partners, one of the biggest problems the US has is that it thinks EVERYTHING is a business - particularly sick care. Until they catch up to the rest of the G7 and realize it is a social service, they are doomed to perpetuate one of the most cruel and failed public policy screw-ups on Earth. Socialized medicine is not some kind of ideology, it is simply the best way to pay for sick care. HEALTH care is very much the responsibility of government, but the US is so far away from being able to pull that off, it is not even worth discussing.

And, YES, I think that Canada is a radical socialist nation - when it comes to social services. I live here by choice. AND, I am not a radical or any other kind of socialist, just pragmatic.

Edited May 21, 2016 by cannuck

[bush_cheney2004]

What I fear about a Trump presidency is that, while he is completely outside of the political "old boys' club" he is very much part of the business world that has destroyed the US economy. He is a speculator and developer, not a producer. The US economy rose to dizzying heights by creating wealth, and it is crashing into the abys because it now thinks it can run an economy based on wealth re-distribution. .....Only Sanders had the right stuff to solve the US - and the developed and developing world's problems....

And yet Canada and other developed nations have had their versions of a socialist Sanders in power and have not achieved the "dizzying heights" of the U.S. economy as achieved under leaders very similar to Trump. As of today, Canada's economy is crashing more right now for several reasons that Trump could directly impact in a positive/negative way.

BTW: As I routinely tell my US business partners, one of the biggest problems the US has is that it thinks EVERYTHING is a business - particularly sick care. Until they catch up to the rest of the G7 and realize it is a social service, they are doomed to perpetuate....

That's because it is a business, even in Canada. If social service health care (which does exist in the United States) was the secret to success, then Canada's economy would not be so dependent on what happens in the U.S.

And, YES, I think that Canada is a radical socialist nation - when it comes to social services. I live here by choice. AND, I am not a radical or any other kind of socialist, just pragmatic.

As are the Americans (pragmatic), including Donald Trump. The Americans largely do not care who is elected to a ruling majority in Canada, because it is a minor irrelevance and not worthy of a 24/7 news cycle. The Canadians will pay far more attention to this American election, because "socialism" does not shield them from economic reality.

[taxme]

I think we need a Trump/Sanders ticket.

Now that would really send the elite cabal on the run. The filthy corrupt elite dust left behind would linger around for weeks after.

[Hal 9000]

Ever notice that these celebrities that hate Trump all talk of moving to Canada, why don't they ever threaten to move to Mexico?

[taxme]

Ever notice that these celebrities that hate Trump all talk of moving to Canada, why don't they ever threaten to move to Mexico?

Indeed, a good question. Do you think that it could be a racial thing? Hey, you never know.

[bush_cheney2004]

Canadian fear of a President Donald Trump is growing, as what was once unthinkable becomes a real political possibility. Only American citizens have a vote in who will be president, but Canadians and other nationals do have the right to worry about what that choice will be.

While it might have seemed like a joke a year ago, Donald Trump is now the republican nominee for president of the United States – and Canadians are worried.

A new Canada-wide Insights West poll found that 76 per cent of Canadians think having Trump as America’s head of state would be “bad” for Canada.

That number represents a nine-point increase since an Insights West survey conducted in January, and a 14-point increase since the first measurement, taken in August 2015.

http://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/168328/Fear-of-Trump-grows

[Smoke]

The rise in fear of a president Trump is directly proportional to the recent rise in fear mongering.

[Smoke]

President Donald Trump....be afraid!!

[eyeball]

Trump is likeliest the shortest path towards anarchy so...go Trump go.

[bush_cheney2004]

Trump is likeliest the shortest path towards anarchy so...go Trump go.

That would explain the Canadian fear and worries....anarchy is not "peace, order, and good government". But then again, it's an American election.

[H10]

I'm for trump.

[The_Squid]

I'm for trump.

Me too. But only for the entertainment value.

[bush_cheney2004]

Not unexpected, as U.S. media dominates the Canadian market, including Trump productions.

[H10]

Me too. But only for the entertainment value.

Yes, I also want to see America crash and burn.

[bush_cheney2004]

Looks like polled Canadians have cranked up their Trump fear knobs to '11'...from cbc news:

new poll suggests that Canadians are becoming increasingly concerned about the prospect of a Donald Trump presidency, with almost four out of every five Canadians saying a Trump White House would be bad for Canada.

In the survey, conducted by Insights West last week, 79 per cent of respondents said they are "very concerned" or "moderately concerned" about the possibility of the Republican nominee becoming the president of the United States.

[GostHacked]

Trump is likeliest the shortest path towards anarchy so...go Trump go.

Well, we can only hope. I mean it''s not like we in Canada have to deal with him.

[kimmy]

Looks like polled Canadians have cranked up their Trump fear knobs to '11'...from cbc news:

new poll suggests that Canadians are becoming increasingly concerned about the prospect of a Donald Trump presidency, with almost four out of every five Canadians saying a Trump White House would be bad for Canada.

In the survey, conducted by Insights West last week, 79 per cent of respondents said they are "very concerned" or "moderately concerned" about the possibility of the Republican nominee becoming the president of the United States.

There's no doubt a Trump presidency would be bad for Canada-- his protectionist views alone enough to assure that, even if all the other worries about his competency and mental health are overstated.

Canadians are not the only ones who Fear Trump Big Time, as the growing number of Republicans For Hillary attests.

-k

[bush_cheney2004]

There's no doubt a Trump presidency would be bad for Canada-- his protectionist views alone enough to assure that, even if all the other worries about his competency and mental health are overstated.

President Obama's protectionist views were/are bad for Canada as well....but he polls quite well there. So much for that argument.

[segnosaur]

President Obama's protectionist views were/are bad for Canada as well....but he polls quite well there. So much for that argument.

Obama kept NAFTA in place, and under him the TPP was negotiated.

Trump has threatened to kill both NAFTA and the TPP.

So, I don't think you can reasonably label Obama 'Protectionist' when compared to the policies of Trump.

[cybercoma]

Something something Keystone.....Nevermind the opposition for that here as well.

[bush_cheney2004]

Obama kept NAFTA in place, and under him the TPP was negotiated.

Trump has threatened to kill both NAFTA and the TPP.

So, I don't think you can reasonably label Obama 'Protectionist' when compared to the policies of Trump.

Obama's 2008 campaign rhetoric also included attacks on NAFTA.....same as Trump. Obama supported "Buy American" policies that would shut out Canadian suppliers:

Canada's concerns over Mr. Obama's pledge to reopen Nafta have been exacerbated by a provision in the president's just-passed $787 billion economic-stimulus package that stipulates that certain building materials for infrastructure projects funded by the plan come from U.S. suppliers.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123504260038621641

So why is Trump's NAFTA rhetoric held to a different standard ? Hell, questioning NAFTA has been a staple for Canadian politicians as well.

[cybercoma]

It is? Didn't you just post that Canadians were concerned about Obama's rhetoric? Are you failing to realize the problems with Trump aren't limited to a single position but rather the entirety of his campaig thus far?