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Trump's recent blunder on abortion was extraordinary for a Presidential candidate. He seemed to be figuring out his policy position as he spoke to Chris Matthews. You can't do that with abortion.

This won't hurt him.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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This won't hurt him.

I take that back. His poll numbers are really hurting with women. Women in general should be very afraid of the republicans. It doesn't matter who they choose as the nominee. They will all set women back.

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I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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If some Canadians FEAR Trump's success, it is their own insecurities that drive it.

Some people seem insecure about what Canada thinks even though they don't care about what Canada thinks.

Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser

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HuffPo now adds this note to all stories about Trump:

Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar , rampant xenophobe , racist ,misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/04/03/this-mainstream-news-organization-thinks-trump-is-so-awful-theyve-done-something-shocking/

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Looks like the remarks didn't hurt Trump!

There isn't a lot of evidence that Donald Trump's most recent controversies have hurt him, at least in terms of costing him supporters, though it may be limiting his ability to convert new supporters. Donald Trump's own supporters -- as well as a large majority of all voters in these states -- feel that Trump can sometimes go too far in the things he says. They are voting for him anyway.

In Trump's home state of New York, however, Trump has a dominant lead over the field, 52 percent to 21 percent for Cruz and 20 percent for Kasich. The billionaire leads by wide margins as best to handle multiple issues including terrorism, bringing back jobs, and the ability to defeat Hillary Clinton if she is the Democratic nominee.

And in Pennsylvania, coming up at the end of April, Trump also enjoys a strong lead at 47 percent while Cruz and Kasich are well back at 29 percent and 22 percent respectively.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-gop-divided-april-primaries-loom-ted-cruz-wisconsin-donald-trump-new-york-pennsylvania/

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Looks like the remarks didn't hurt Trump!

That statement really depends on what the goal is. Is the hope that he can actually become president or just destroy the GOP?

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That statement really depends on what the goal is. Is the hope that he can actually become president or just destroy the GOP?

He could be president, or not. We can't really say. All we can do is wait and see what happens.

Polls aren't accurately given. Too much propaganda floating around in an effort to stop Trump. Democrats already anticipate Trump as the nominee, as shown by how they focus their attacks on him.

I want to see how it'll be on a Trump vs Hillary debate.

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That statement really depends on what the goal is. Is the hope that he can actually become president or just destroy the GOP?

The GOP should be destroyed, at least in its present incarnation. If Trump and Sanders shakes up the status quo then they'll have contributed a lot even if neither ever goes on to further political office.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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The GOP should be destroyed, at least in its present incarnation. If Trump and Sanders shakes up the status quo then they'll have contributed a lot even if neither ever goes on to further political office.

What do you consider 'status quo' in this context?

Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser

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Speaking of someone who doesn't understand what's going on......

Obama expressed disappointment about Iran. :rolleyes: Really?

Check out this video of Trump's response to Obama's disappointment over Iran violating the deal.

Timer: 11:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EG3Cnpu-8I

So true! The first few minutes of this speech was great - I've got to find time to watch the rest.

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The GOP should be destroyed, at least in its present incarnation. If Trump and Sanders shakes up the status quo then they'll have contributed a lot even if neither ever goes on to further political office.

True. I'm interested to see if Bernie's movement to end corporate America's ownership of government will sustain itself through the Clinton era. She will cater to big business donors, but I expect she will also handle environmental, health care, education and foreign affairs issues in a reasonable fashion that could placate the young and angry Sanders supporters.

The Trump debacle could have far more interesting consequences for the GOP though. His success with Republican voters could decouple religion from the right, possibly leading to a party split. This possibility is discussed in this short and interesting article about the unholy alliance between Christianity and corporate America that is based on anything but "Christian principles". http://bigthink.com/21st-century-spirituality/is-donald-trump-exposing-hypocrisy-in-the-religious-right?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1459729283

Trump’s bewildering ascension has exposed many holes in his party’s messaging, but one of the most prominent yet under-discussed is the role of religion. He was not scolded for his 2 Corinthians gaff, nor is any of the heat of his abortion flip-flopping coming from his supporters.

Is this pointing toward a less religious nation? In part. People discuss how Trump has tapped into an underlying anger. Yet he has also exploited another human characteristic, one we hate to admit: hypocrisy. Religious foundations such as charity, kindness, and compassion are absent in his rhetoric—which, in many ways, circles back to the origins of the Religious Right. It was never about salvation for all, only for those with the money to purchase it. Given that many Trump supporters are inspired by his self-funded campaign, it would appear not much has changed at all. He's just shed the religious messaging and gotten straight to the point.

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Canadians are everything that is wrong with Americans. Some around here have not learned that yet.

What I meant must have gone over the OP's head- Seems to me that the real folks who fear Donald Trump are those in the US republican party! Not the 'Nucks. :D

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What I meant must have gone over the OP's head- Seems to me that the real folks who fear Donald Trump are those in the US republican party! Not the 'Nucks. :D

....except that our PM Trudeau - who speaks for Canada - had taken a swipe at Trump, and in the process he had expressed his fear:

“I don’t think it comes as a surprise to anyone that I stand firmly against the politics of division, the politics of fear, the politics of intolerance or hateful rhetoric,” Trudeau said during a live, year-end town hall hosted by Maclean’s. “If we allow politicians to succeed by scaring people, we don’t actually end up any safer. Fear doesn’t make us safer. It makes us weaker.”

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/justin-trudeau-takes-on-donald-trump/

He fears politicians like Trump that he couldn't help but throw out diplomacy, despite advises from former ambassadors.

He fears the thought of Trump becoming President. :D

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....except that our PM Trudeau - who speaks for Canada - had taken a swipe at Trump, and in the process he had expressed his fear:

you mistakenly equate fear to being against a xenophobic, racist, hate-mongering blowhard!

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He fears politicians like Trump that he couldn't help but throw out diplomacy, despite advises from former ambassadors.

He fears the thought of Trump becoming President.

The entire population of intelligent people fear making a fascist, megalomaniacal, buffoon the most powerful person on earth. I find your illogical and inconsistent positions a little confusing. For instance, you call the PM undiplomatic for stating the noble idea that he opposes divisive politics, yet at the same time support Trump for labeling an entire nation as rapists and criminals. Do you happen to be Sarah Palin by chance?

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The entire population of intelligent people fear making a fascist, megalomaniacal, buffoon the most powerful person on earth. I find your illogical and inconsistent positions a little confusing. For instance, you call the PM undiplomatic for stating the noble idea that he opposes divisive politics, yet at the same time support Trump for labeling an entire nation as rapists and criminals. Do you happen to be Sarah Palin by chance?

Well....I'm glad you agree with me about Trudeau (speaking for the nation), expressing his fear.

The reason why he has his fear is not the issue.

I merely responded to OftenWrong's claim, explaining why he's wrong (again?). :)

As for the rest of your post........ irrelevant.

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Well....I'm glad you agree with me about Trudeau (speaking for the nation), expressing his fear.

The reason why he has his fear is not the issue.

Good point.....The Right Honourable Justin P. J. Trudeau seemingly went off script to attack a U.S. presidential candidate...channeling his inner "Trump", then proceeding to smugly lecture American voters.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Good point.....The Right Honourable Justin P. J. Trudeau seemingly went off script to attack a U.S. presidential candidate...channeling his inner "Trump", then proceeding to smugly lecture American voters.

It's always interesting as to why the media always seems to want to find some fault with Trump but yet never seems to want to bring up Hillary and the FBI's investigation of her that is now going on. And it is suppose to be some serious crap. I guess that the liberal establishment is hoping that the FBI's investigation will continue on until after all the primaries are finished, and the pick for the leader will have been done. And if she does become the leader of her party will the investigation somehow go quietly go away. It will be interesting to see indeed.

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Good point.....The Right Honourable Justin P. J. Trudeau seemingly went off script to attack a U.S. presidential candidate...channeling his inner "Trump", then proceeding to smugly lecture American voters.

oh pleeeese! Your personal obsession with 'all that is Canada' doesn't require your exaggeration/hyperbole - does it? Please don't hesitate to cite your example of supposed "attack" and "smugly lecturing American voters" - sure you can!

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Well....I'm glad you agree with me about Trudeau (speaking for the nation), expressing his fear.

you mean the following?

I don’t think it comes as a surprise to anyone that I stand firmly against the politics of division, the politics of fear, the politics of intolerance or hateful rhetoric. If we allow politicians to succeed by scaring people, we don’t actually end up any safer. Fear doesn’t make us safer. It makes us weaker.

is this your example... oh my! How brutish that Trudeau is, hey! Was he talking about Trump? If so, does it hit a lil' too close for ya?

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It's always interesting as to why the media always seems to want to find some fault with Trump but yet never seems to want to bring up Hillary and the FBI's investigation of her that is now going on. And it is suppose to be some serious crap. I guess that the liberal establishment is hoping that the FBI's investigation will continue on until after all the primaries are finished, and the pick for the leader will have been done. And if she does become the leader of her party will the investigation somehow go quietly go away. It will be interesting to see indeed.

what media are you following - that has received huuuuge play and continues to. At this point, until an indictment (if it comes), it's all speculation... which is exactly what it's been up to now. Do you crave more, yet more speculative ramblings of partisan hacks and media acolytes? You likee that kind of thing?

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you mean the following?

is this your example... oh my! How brutish that Trudeau is, hey! Was he talking about Trump?

If so, does it hit a lil' too close for ya?

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Justin Trudeau takes on Donald Trump

During the Maclean’s Town Hall, Justin Trudeau served up some strong political jabs against Donald Trump. Here’s why that’s a risky game.

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/justin-trudeau-takes-on-donald-trump/

Just shows either you don't even bother reading at all, or you don't comprehend what you read.

Why should I bother with you?

I rest my case.

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Just shows either you don't even bother reading at all, or you don't comprehend what you read. [/size]

Why should I bother with you?

F

I rest my case.

Trudeau didn't mention Trump directly in those remarks, but I bet Waldo knows who Carly Fiorina is.

I rest my case.

"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet

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