Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

[?Impact]

GM already sells more cars in China than in Canada.

Yes, GM is growing fast in China. This is through their joint partnership with SAIC Motor and Liuzhou Wuling Motors Co Ltd. They actually sold more cars than in the US as well.

[bush_cheney2004]

Yes, GM is growing fast in China. This is through their joint partnership with SAIC Motor and Liuzhou Wuling Motors Co Ltd. They actually sold more cars than in the US as well.

Agreed, as changes to the international trade landscape were/are already occurring long before Trump's presidential bid. Economics and domestic politics in both Canada and the United States have impacted trade and investment.

Trump can leverage anti-trade sentiment for short term advantage. Clinton won't be any walk in the park either, as she pushes more "Buy American" policies and classic Democratic protectionism. Canada's economy would just be road kill on the drive to the White House.

[bush_cheney2004]

Another 'fraidy cat op-ed from Canada because of Trump. This is fun !!!

...Trump says he won’t build a wall along America’s northern frontier, but his obsession with terrorism would likely lead to a thickening of the U.S.-Canadian border. And his declaration that he would not push American democratic values abroad implies a retreat from humanitarian action and pressure on dictators to have a minimum respect for human rights.

None of this is good, and none of it is in Canada’s interests. And coming from a man with a one-in-four chance of reaching the White House, it’s cause for deep concern.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/2016/07/25/us-allies-have-every-reason-to-fear-a-president-trump-editorial.html

Be AFRAID Canada...be very very AFRAID.

[?Impact]

Canada will build a wall around Trump and send the bill to the Republican party.

[segnosaur]

And yet, Mr. Bloomberg does not have his name atop tall buildings in Canadian cities.

And Bloomberg has also never made a sex tape with Ray J. Kim Kardashian has, but I don't think people would want her to be president either.

Trump is a failure as a businessman. His only "success" has been marketing himself, much like Kardashian. Both of them are shameless self-promoters, and the only reason you see Trump's name on Canadian buildings is his fake reputation. He's pretty much famous for being famous.

[bush_cheney2004]

Canada will build a wall around Trump and send the bill to the Republican party.

No...Canada will build hotel office towers and put Trump's name at the top.

[segnosaur]

No...Canada will build hotel office towers and put Trump's name at the top.

Unless of course Trump's reputation takes a significant hit because the election has highlighted his failures as a business men and his bigotry/sexism, and as a result the Trump "brand" looses its value.

From: http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/04/technology/trump-campaign-business-foursquare/

There has been a clear decline in foot traffic to Trump-branded golf courses, hotels and casinos in the U.S. since Trump entered the presidential race

...

Another survey late last year from BAV Consulting found the Trump brand was less associated with traits like "prestigious" and "innovative" among wealthy consumers.

I guess the racists and other bigots who actually like Trump don't have the money to visit his properties.

[?Impact]

I doubt anyone in Canada will ever again try and put the failed Trump name on any property. The current hotel owners are suing the Trump management corporation for complete failure to deliver. It is expected there will be a bankruptcy and the property will be sold to a new owner who will actually find a real hotel chain to associate with that can provide real bookings (and a new name on the building).

[bush_cheney2004]

Unless of course Trump's reputation takes a significant hit....

It hasn't taken a hit yet ? "TRUMP" still rides high above Canadian cities.

I guess the racists and other bigots who actually like Trump don't have the money to visit his properties.

Well, the racists from Canada have always spent less than the Americans, even in Las Vegas.

[bush_cheney2004]

I doubt anyone in Canada will ever again try and put the failed Trump name on any property.

Maybe, but the deed has already been done...multiple times. Canadians turn yet again to American social media to try and fix their own "mistakes":

https://www.change.org/p/the-holborn-group-joo-kim-tiah-tell-the-holborn-group-to-drop-trump-brand-from-their-new-vancouver-tower

[GostHacked]

I love Trump because it helps BC talk more about Canada. Because that makes sense!

[taxme]

Canadian fear of a President Donald Trump is growing, as what was once unthinkable becomes a real political possibility. Only American citizens have a vote in who will be president, but Canadians and other nationals do have the right to worry about what that choice will be.

While it might have seemed like a joke a year ago, Donald Trump is now the republican nominee for president of the United States – and Canadians are worried.

A new Canada-wide Insights West poll found that 76 per cent of Canadians think having Trump as America’s head of state would be “bad” for Canada.

That number represents a nine-point increase since an Insights West survey conducted in January, and a 14-point increase since the first measurement, taken in August 2015.

http://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/168328/Fear-of-Trump-grows

Most Canadians don't even care as to what goes on in politics in Canada. And yet they are all worried about Trump. The only reason I can see why Canadians are getting all upset and scared of Trump is because the main scream lame duck Canadian liberal media put them in that state. If they had a mind of their own and used it, rather than allow the lame duck media to do their thinking for them, they would see that there is nothing to fear from a Trump Presidency. I am not worried. The 76% polled that think Trump would be bad for Canada are the ones that I fear the most. They are clueless.

[bush_cheney2004]

...Most Canadians don't even care as to what goes on in politics in Canada. And yet they are all worried about Trump. The only reason I can see why Canadians are getting all upset and scared of Trump is because the main scream lame duck Canadian liberal media put them in that state.

I agree...that's certainly part of it. Easy access to American media and interwebs seems to have increased Canadian engagement and worries about each U.S. presidential election cycle since the year 2000, when Canadian tree hugging fave Al Gore lost out. Some of them are concerned that the U.S. border is getting harder and harder to cross compared to the "good ol days", and God knows what those "Damn Americans...I hate those bastards" will do next on foreign policy. Not having any control over the U.S. elections and their impact must be disconcerting for some of them.

The political junkies starve badly on Canada's domestic menu...so boring in comparison. Trump must seem like a juicy meal each day for them.

Edited September 8, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

[taxme]

I agree...that's certainly part of it. Easy access to American media and interwebs seems to have increased Canadian engagement and worries about each U.S. presidential election cycle since the year 2000, when Canadian tree hugging fave Al Gore lost out. Some of them are concerned that the U.S. border is getting harder and harder to cross compared to the "good ol days", and God knows what those "Damn Americans...I hate those bastards" will do next on foreign policy. Not having any control over the U.S. elections and their impact must be disconcerting for some of them.

The political junkies starve badly on Canada's domestic menu...so boring in comparison. Trump must seem like a juicy meal each day for them.

I am pretty sure that those all upset Canadians can find plenty of real juicy stuff to concern themselves with if they were not so politically correct and multicultural. I have presented many topics for discussion that I thought should be on Canadian taxpayer's minds and concerns, and where and how their tax dollars are being blown. We are talking in the billions. But it does not appear to be what they want to talk about on their political plate. They seem to enjoy their daily shafting by the elite and special interest groups who have control over our politicians and who pull their strings, and who get those politicians to do their dirty work for them. We are a nation of politically correct liberal wimps and cowards, and who just don't give a darn about anything except themselves and what concerns them only. It's an all about me-me-me with most Canadians in Canada today. Sad but true.

[Rue]

The only thing about Donald Trump that frightens me is his hair in blowing wind. It looks like out of control arm pit hair.

[bush_cheney2004]

.... They seem to enjoy their daily shafting by the elite and special interest groups who have control over our politicians and who pull their strings, and who get those politicians to do their dirty work for them. We are a nation of politically correct liberal wimps and cowards, and who just don't give a darn about anything except themselves and what concerns them only. It's an all about me-me-me with most Canadians in Canada today. Sad but true.

I am not Canadian so it remains a mystery to me. There are bits and pieces of explanation in the way of constant examination with anxiety about what happens in the U.S., the lack of culture or identity without America as a foil, massive consumption of American media, and more recently, the plaintive wails from PM Trudeau about how important the U.S. is to Canada.

I think your posts are an honest expression of Canadian nationalism that is fighting against a growing tide of politically correct capitulation. Trump is fighting the same battle in the U.S. election for like minded American citizens.

[dialamah]

The only thing about Donald Trump that frightens me is his hair in blowing wind. It looks like out of control arm pit hair.

Haha, good one!

[segnosaur]

Re: the poster 'taxme'...

I think your posts are an honest expression of Canadian nationalism that is fighting against a growing tide of politically correct capitulation.

Taxme is a neo-nazi sympathiser, who admits to getting information from the IHR (a neo-nazi site), and has made posts that have included anti-semitic remarks.

Please don't confuse that with him being any way indicative of "Canadian Nationalism" and/or an icon speaking against politicial correctness. Most proud canadiians nationalists are not neo-nazi sympathizers, and would actually be horrified to be associated with neo-nazis.

Trump is fighting the same battle in the U.S. election for like minded American citizens.

Well, that's rather telling, isn't it.

Taxme is a neo-nazi sympathizer. If Trump is fighting the same battle, then Trump is also trying to fight for the racist, bigoted vote in the U.S. election.

[bush_cheney2004]

Taxme is a neo-nazi sympathiser, who admits to getting information from the IHR (a neo-nazi site), and has made posts that have included anti-semitic remarks.

Please don't confuse that with him being any way indicative of "Canadian Nationalism" and/or an icon speaking against politicial correctness. Most proud canadiians nationalists are not neo-nazi sympathizers, and would actually be horrified to be associated with neo-nazis.

Personal attacks are not permitted in this forum. However, freedom of expression is permitted within forum rules. Please don't be confused by these concepts.

Well, that's rather telling, isn't it.

Taxme is a neo-nazi sympathizer. If Trump is fighting the same battle, then Trump is also trying to fight for the racist, bigoted vote in the U.S. election.

See above.

[segnosaur]

Personal attacks are not permitted in this forum. However, freedom of expression is permitted within forum rules. Please don't be confused by these concepts.

It is not a personal attack. It is a statement of fact.

In the following thread: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/25455-donald-vs-hillary/page-50(see post 728 and 740)

taxme admits to getting his information from the following sources:

- IHR (Institute of Historical Review). This is basically a neonazi source, well known for holocaust denial. They have had writers like Ernst Zundel.

- Political Cesspool... a site that had, as one of their earlier contributors, a white separatist, and is concerned with improving the "white birthrate"

If taxme is listening to people of that ilk, and saying "You know, they are a valid source of information", its pretty reasonable to assume that taxme himself has the same set of beliefs. i.e. is a neo-nazi (or at least a neo-nazi sympathizer).

Furthermore, he has actually posted the following statement in the same thread:(post 863)

Those so-called politicians have sold their souls to the zionist devil.

In general, if someone is posting about the 'zionist devil' and how they are somehow controlling things, its a pretty good indication that they have some anti-semetic leanings.

The tern "nazi" does sometimes get tossed around all too casually, with everyone from George Bush to Obama getting labeled as such. In the case of taxme, where he has actually made anti-semetic posts and has admitted getting information from racist sources then I think the label is an accurate one.

Hopefully the moderators will accept my interpretation.

Edited September 8, 2016 by segnosaur

[Rue]

It is not a personal attack. It is a statement of fact.

In the following thread: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/25455-donald-vs-hillary/page-50(see post 728 and 740)

taxme admits to getting his information from the following sources:

- IHR (Institute of Historical Review). This is basically a neonazi source, well known for holocaust denial. They have had writers like Ernst Zundel.

- Political Cesspool... a site that had, as one of their earlier contributors, a white separatist, and is concerned with improving the "white birthrate"

If taxme is listening to people of that ilk, and saying "You know, they are a valid source of information", its pretty reasonable to assume that taxme himself has the same set of beliefs. i.e. is a neo-nazi (or at least a neo-nazi sympathizer).

Furthermore, he has actually posted the following statement in the same thread:(post 863)

Those so-called politicians have sold their souls to the zionist devil.

In general, if someone is posting about the 'zionist devil' and how they are somehow controlling things, its a pretty good indication that they have some anti-semetic leanings.

The tern "nazi" does sometimes get tossed around all too casually, with everyone from George Bush to Obama getting labeled as such. In the case of taxme, where he has actually made anti-semetic posts and has admitted getting information from racist sources then I think the label is an accurate one.

Hopefully the moderators will accept my interpretation.

I sure as hell stand by your comments and thank you.

Edited September 8, 2016 by Rue

[bush_cheney2004]

The funny thing is....Trump xenophobia BAD, but TFW xenophobia in Canada GOOD.

[?Impact]

The funny thing is....Trump xenophobia BAD, but TFW xenophobia in Canada GOOD.

The TFW problem is not xenophobia, it is about distorting the economy.

[bush_cheney2004]

The TFW problem is not xenophobia, it is about distorting the economy.

Label it whatever you wish...same xenophobia. When will all the Canadian workers leave the USA ? Canadians overstay their visas more than any other foreign nationals in the USA.

[segnosaur]

The funny thing is....Trump xenophobia BAD, but TFW xenophobia in Canada GOOD.

First of all, who said that xenophobia is ever good?

Secondly, most people would actually try to put xenophobic attitudes in context before deciding how to handle them. To some people, doing things that are racist/xenophobic could be due to ignorance, or misinterpretations, or outright mistakes. That sort of thing isn't acceptable, but it can hopefully be cured. That belongs in a different category than someone like taxme, who actually seeks out racist sources and seeks to pass on the messages they contain. It is also different from Trump, who is promoting bigotry for his own political gain.

Both are wrong, but the way the cases should be condemned, as well as the solutions, are completely different.

Lastly that is a pretty typical deflection technique you used. (You do that all the time when you've been proven wrong... make some post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand in order to deflect the fact that you were completely debunked.) Do you now accept that taxme is indeed a neo-nazi sympathizer?