Islamophobia in Canada

[eyeball]

19 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Neither do you....the Islamic women would wish for free abortions.

There you go, didn't take you long to see no good would come of the womenfolk getting together did it?

I apparently know men better than you too.

 

...cue the homophobic slur in three, two, one...

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

I apparently know men better than you too.

 

Yes, you certainly think you do.   But you only get one vote just like the "deplorables".

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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Yes, you certainly think you do.   But you only get one vote just like the "deplorables".

Well maybe you and your homies can arrange it so me and the women don't get a vote.  It's not like you adorables haven't rolled this way before when it suits.

[OftenWrong]

44 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You don't know women very well.  Put a bunch of islamophobic women and Islamic women together in the same room and they'll be talking about their babies and grandkids in no time at all.

Right, because that is all women really want to talk about.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, eyeball said:

Well maybe you and your homies can arrange it so me and the women don't get a vote.  It's not like you adorables haven't rolled this way before when it suits.

 

But you've already done that for "aboriginals".  

Maybe Sharia law can help them too.

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Just now, OftenWrong said:

Right, because that is all women really want to talk about.

No but it's very likely what they'll break the ice with.  The rest will be easier then.

All 'we'd' probably talk about, apparently, is the turncoat feminist guy who keeps encouraging them.

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

But you've already done that for "aboriginals".  

Maybe Sharia law can help them too.

Probably, if the number of women administering it were equal to men.  Like I said, things would be a lot gentler.

[OftenWrong]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Probably, if the number of women administering it were equal to men.  Like I said, things would be a lot gentler.

Interesting that you get "likes" for your stereotyping. I guess as long as the stereotype works for you, it's fine.

[drummindiver]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's what you actually think the words I wrote mean or even remotely implied?

As has been said before this sort of ridiculously illogical reply suggests the person employing it is either sadly intellectually challenged or outrageously disingenuous - which is to say, not an improvement unless one thinks being ethically challenged is an improvement.  I think it's a lot worse myself.

Refusing to address the focus of a topic by pretending to be stupid is simply a vandalizing of rational discourse really.  That said, if people really are just ignorant there's room for improvement

That's what you LITERALLY said. No need for interpretation. Not my problem  if thats not what you meant. Be smarter when posting.

Ad Hom as usual.

Hates Canada but loves Muslim extremists.

Thinks only men can be Islsmaphobic. Misandric and sexist. And wrong.

Thinks women only want to talk about babies. Misogynist. Ask Omars mommy and sisters what they like talking about.

 

[drummindiver]

18 hours ago, eyeball said:

 We'd only barely granted women the right to vote ourselves before we were running around the world overthrowing democracies.

 

 

Like I said, LITERALLY. 

[dialamah]

8 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Interesting that you get "likes" for your stereotyping. I guess as long as the stereotype works for you, it's fine.

Don't feel bad, I'm sure you say things people like sometimes too.

[Guest]

11 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Interesting that you get "likes" for your stereotyping. I guess as long as the stereotype works for you, it's fine.

"Likes" can be just another way of trolling.

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

"Likes" can be just another way of trolling.

Sometimes I "like"  a post if there is something in it that gives a different perspective, even if I don't agree with all parts of it.

I don't put much stock in "likes" or pay much attention to who "likes" what.  But I suppose if you have a large negative number under your profile, you should prolly re-think some of your views.

[OftenWrong]

3 hours ago, dialamah said:

Don't feel bad, I'm sure you say things people like sometimes too.

I'm sure if I said what eyeball said here about women, I'd be called a chauvenist by someone like you.

[dialamah]

12 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

I'm sure if I said what eyeball said here about women, I'd be called a chauvenist by someone like you.

Sometimes when I read/like things, I don't even know who the author is.  So, bzzzt, you are wrong about me again. 

[Rue]

15 hours ago, eyeball said:

You don't know women very well.  Put a bunch of islamophobic women and Islamic women together in the same room and they'll be talking about their babies and grandkids in no time at all.  Soon after that they'd be talking about the men 

Of course the thing uniting their men would be the conviction that no good could come of the women getting together no matter what they were chattering their silly heads off about.

Using your reasoning, in your world  a bunch of fundamentalist head to toe covered  Muslim women  sitting in the same room with feminist non Muslim women will soon be talking about their babies and grandkids and then men. You know because you know women.

Drum was dead on. What you said was juvenile sexist shit.

You don't' speak for me or any man I know. In my world women fight terrorists and don't sit around with other women laying eggs and they sure as hell don't support fundamentalist religious doctrine and your definition of them as all being domestic hens.

Man I would give you less than 10 seconds before you'd be spitting your balls our your nose saying what you did to some women I know..

You have no clue what a woman will do to defend her family, friends and comrades  from terrorism or for that matter when they engage in terrorism, that much is obvious.

What is also obvious is you reference women like some asswipe little Prince who grew up in a sheltered world of clucking hens who doted over every word you said..

You are deluded . In the real world,  when those women get together, if they do reference you its to compare you  to the hemmeroids they have.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 5, 2017 by Rue

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7 hours ago, drummindiver said:

That's what you LITERALLY said. 

You're maintaining that my saying this;  We'd only barely granted women the right to vote ourselves before we were running around the world overthrowing democracies.

Is LITERALLY the same as my saying this So, first and second world wars was us running around overthrowing democracies?

I might as well be talking to two year old FFS.  Ok have it your way.  I'll stop assuming I'm talking to someone who's only pretending to be stupid and spell it out for you.  

First of all women in the US and other western democracies didn't get to vote until after the 1st WW.  Clearly the period after the 1st and 2nd WW's and the present is a lot closer to and more relevant to what's at issue.  My bad for assuming that should be obvious in a thread about Islam.

So like I said, much the west was barely out of the twilight ages of dictatorships itself before it was starting new ones and passing judgements on the democratic aspirations of other human beings around the planet.  This of course has left a legacy of terrible consequences...abject stupidity apparently being one of them.   

 

Edited October 5, 2017 by eyeball

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47 minutes ago, Rue said:

Using your reasoning, in your world  a bunch of fundamentalist head to toe covered  Muslim women  sitting in the same room with feminist non Muslim women will soon be talking about their babies and grandkids and then men. You know because you know women.

Drum was dead on. What you said was juvenile sexist shit.

You don't' speak for me or any man I know. In my world women fight terrorists and don't sit around with other women laying eggs and they sure as hell don't support fundamentalist religious doctrine and your definition of them as all being domestic hens.

Man I would give you less than 10 seconds before you'd be spitting your balls our your nose saying what you did to some women I know..

You have no clue what a woman will do to defend her family, friends and comrades  from terrorism or for that matter when they engage in terrorism, that much is obvious.

What is also obvious is you reference women like some asswipe little Prince who grew up in a sheltered world of clucking hens who doted over every word you said..

You are deluded . In the real world,  when those women get together, if they do reference you its to compare you  to the hemmeroids they have.

 

I'm not surprised people in the world you inhabit have no sense of context or humour.  No sense is probably even closer to the reality.

[PIK]

On 10/3/2017 at 7:18 PM, dialamah said:

Well you are entitled to your opinion, right, even if I think you are wrong. 

Watched a lady being interviewed on BBC today, her party came in third I think in the recent elections in Germany.  The interviewer asked if Muslim women should be allowed to wear a headscarf and the politician said "No, we don't want that in our schools and public places".  The interviewer than asked if nuns should also be banned from wearing their coif, and the politician  said no, that was ok.  

So, do you think that is discrimination against Muslim women, or a reasonable stand to differentiate between female oppression and a religious garment?

When covering up means being subservient, the we have problem.Now where I live we have women in the head scarves and they look nice wearing then. But when I see a woman in a black burka totally covered and it is 90f outside, we have a problem.

[drummindiver]

25 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You're maintaining that my saying this;  We'd only barely granted women the right to vote ourselves before we were running around the world overthrowing democracies.

Is LITERALLY the same as my saying this So, first and second world wars was us running around overthrowing democracies?

I might as well be talking to two year old FFS.  Ok have it your way.  I'll stop assuming I'm talking to someone who's only pretending to be stupid and spell it out for you.  

First of all women in the US and other western democracies didn't get to vote until after the 1st WW.  Clearly the period after the 1st and 2nd WW's and the present is a lot closer to and more relevant to what's at issue.  My bad for assuming that should be obvious in a thread about Islam.

So like I said, much the west was barely out of the twilight ages of dictatorships itself before it was starting new ones and passing judgements on the democratic aspirations of other human beings around the planet.  This of course has left a legacy of terrible consequences...abject stupidity apparently being one of them.   

 

Don't be do petulant because you're wrong sweetheart. 

As in speech, what you write counts.

And still ad hom. I thought you lefties were above that?

[drummindiver]

3 hours ago, dialamah said:

Sometimes when I read/like things, I don't even know who the author is.  So, bzzzt, you are wrong about me again. 

I call bullshit on that. If someone other than a leftbot had written it you would have  lost your shit 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, drummindiver said:

As in speech, what you write counts.

Not if the person listening hears something completely different.

 

[dialamah]

9 minutes ago, PIK said:

But when I see a woman in a black burka totally covered and it is 90f outside, we have a problem.

I don"t like those either and feel uncomfortable seeing a woman dressed like that.  But that is my problem, not hers.   Her problem is different and varies.  If its her choice to dress like that, facing the disapproval and sometimes physical hostility  of the wider public.  If she is coerced into wearing it through family pressure, its facing their disapproval and sometimes physical hostility if refuses.   I would say her problems are bigger than mine.

[Guest]

I think sympathy for the oppressed is a virtue, not a problem. 

[dialamah]

5 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

I call bullshit on that. If someone other than a leftbot had written it you would have  lost your shit 

Why is it so common for rightists to declare they know the minds of everyone?   But believe what you want, I don't care.

PS:  I looked halfway through this post to see who I'd quoted, wasn't sure who it was.