Omni Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, taxme said: Pretty hard for anyone like Trump to win anything that has to do with conservatism when just about all the courts and judges are pro-democrat and liberal in America. Anyone with an ounce of brains can figure that one out. Your gang of anti-constitution traitors are the reason why Trump has a difficult time trying to get most of his agenda like draining the swamp because of the courts and judges who are all appointed democrats. All I can say is that I hope that you don't choke on a piece of popcorn when you get disappointed. I guess you didn't bother to check the court appointments before starting off otherwise you'd have found a pretty even representation of dems. and repubs. However what the courts duty is is to apply the law, not their political orientation. What Trump tried has been thwarted by a number of courts and will very likely be by the highest court in the land. And if I do choke on the popcorn it will likely be from laughing at Trump's tweets.
taxme Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Omni said: I guess you didn't bother to check the court appointments before starting off otherwise you'd have found a pretty even representation of dems. and repubs. However what the courts duty is is to apply the law, not their political orientation. What Trump tried has been thwarted by a number of courts and will very likely be by the highest court in the land. And if I do choke on the popcorn it will likely be from laughing at Trump's tweets. Spoken like a true red far left liberal democratic communist. If you do choke well enjoy your world of far left liberalism communism on the other side. Mao and Stalin and Pol Pot are waiting anxiously to meet you. Enjoy your comrade friends.
Omni Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, taxme said: Spoken like a true red far left liberal democratic communist. If you do choke well enjoy your world of far left liberalism communism on the other side. Mao and Stalin and Pol Pot are waiting anxiously to meet you. Enjoy your comrade friends. Democratic states are blue.
Charles Anthony Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 Folks, Stop derailing this discussion. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 4 hours ago, dialamah said: Thanks for the hint, I believe I found it. I have no issue supporting Islam over DOP, power to them in his case. I just wish Islamophobes wore uniforms so terrorists could tell us apart. I don't recall exactly why I clicked like on this, might have been the idea of Islamophobes in uniforms since that's what amused me this time. I didn't read it as wishing death on DoP. However, I see that it could be read that way. For that, I offer @DogOnPorch the apology I promised. I may not agree with him much, but I don't wish death on him. Apology accepted. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 2 hours ago, taxme said: You see when you cannot win an argument you start with the stupid personal attacks like pretty much calling me a nazi or white supremo just because your opinions have been challenged and you cannot defend them. Where is the personal attack? You often talk about the white supremacist and Nazi people you call patriots and talk about the links to sites which feature them. Even if I actually said you were a white supremacist - as opposed to, I believe you call yourself a white nationalist - it's hardly a personal attack. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 So back to Islamophobia. I'm still waiting for people to define it with regard to what would be a realistic, vs an unrealistic fear of Islam. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
scribblet Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 It's not a phobia if they really are trying to kill you... and they really really are trying to do that. 2 Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Argus Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, scribblet said: It's not a phobia if they really are trying to kill you... and they really really are trying to do that. It's not a phobia even if they aren't trying to kill you. If they represent a system which threatens your view on how society should be ordered, then there's nothing wrong to oppose them. 3 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Argus said: It's not a phobia even if they aren't trying to kill you. If they represent a system which threatens your view on how society should be ordered, then there's nothing wrong to oppose them. Among us... http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/05/preacher-who-helped-radicalize-london-attacker-lives-in-michigan/ Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Among us... http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/05/preacher-who-helped-radicalize-london-attacker-lives-in-michigan/ So the question would be why is this guy alive? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, Argus said: So the question would be why is this guy alive? Born in Dearborn, USA. https://www.counterextremism.com/extremists/ahmad-musa-jibril Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Born in Dearborn, USA. https://www.counterextremism.com/extremists/ahmad-musa-jibril I not only believe we should be able to remove the citizenship of immigrants who turn out to be our enemies, I think we should be able to remove the citizenship of the native born who turn out to be our enemies. The US should remove his citizenship and send him to Afghanistan, where he can be with those he loves. 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted June 5, 2017 Report Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, Argus said: I not only believe we should be able to remove the citizenship of immigrants who turn out to be our enemies, I think we should be able to remove the citizenship of the native born who turn out to be our enemies. The US should remove his citizenship and send him to Afghanistan, where he can be with those he loves. His Jihad tracker at the bottom of the page is busy, busy. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Charles Anthony said: Folks, Stop derailing this discussion. What part of this thread is derailed? I mean this is how this board is now.
Rue Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, scribblet said: It's not a phobia if they really are trying to kill you... and they really really are trying to do that. Debates, criticism of extremist, terrorist or fundamentalist views or for that matter anything is not a phobia. If someone deliberately smeers an entire people with negativity they might be afraid of something which drives their hatred and scapegoating of these people.. but not all the time. Some people use Islamophobia to refer to what they see as unfair attacks lumping all Muslims as evil saying its fueled by ignorance and fear of what Islam actually is. Some use the word Islamophobia to try shut down any legitimate as well as illegitimate criticism of Islam. All depends on who is using this word and how. Certainly the MP never denied it nor did Trudeau because they leave it as an open ended Catch 22 label for any criticism of Islam. As for bigots, I prefer myself they speak out and their beliefs challenged then sweeping them into the same category as legitimate debaters and shutting them both down. Words without context just in themselves have become very powerful tools now to be used to shut people down from the full context of what they say or mean once they utter such words.. Like you suggest one man's paranoia may be another's reaction to perceived real danger. Its a line-a line of subjective perception right now blurred precisely because terrorists take on the uniform and appearance of ordinary people making it hard to differentiate them from peaceful people. Hey yesterday the news comes out that one of those terrorist idiots in London was on the police radar and even in a documentary about radicals showing himself with a Daesh flag and spewing out epitaphs to the public. Because the UK is a democracy it did not arrest him simply for his opinions. People now understandably are asking do we wait for an actual act of terror or arrest them before they engage in the act. Well if you did on what grounds in a democracy like Britain? You have the right to be an extremist idiot as long as you do not actually say you will kill someone or someone else should. Terrorism is designed to test our freedom of speech, our very thresholds of tolerance. Its designed to get people to fear. Terrrorism-is deliberate psychological warfare too have people fear so the very civility of their lives breaks down into base primal reactions of anger, aggression, hostility. Wen someone is afraid they are easily manipulated. So look to who most benefits from having people manipulated. Three kinds of leaders emerge in the midst of terror and chaos. One is a tyrannical bigot exploiting the fear and anxiety to call for Draconian measures. The other is a Queen Elizabeth-Truman-Churchill-Golda Maer warrior like leader who rally people around their hope and strength not fears, The third is the Martin Luther King-Ghandi-pacifist. I think the world misses its Bobby Kennedy Martin Luther King figures and they are valuable in times of uncertainty but the cold reality is we need Churchill-Truman like leaders and their are none at the moment. We have a vacuum in world leadership to rally us in the face of extremism.. Certaily China does not offer it. Putin is no visionary just a thug for the Russian mob and Trump is the ultimate legacy of Americans brought up on junk food-stunted in intelligence and rotted by over saturated food. Well I certainly don't sit around waiting for a Messiah. You, me. each one of us as an individual becomes the Messah by refusing to fear, refusing to give in to hateful stereotypes and by continuing to go about our business as best we can. That stiff upper lip may seem ridiculous but it sure as hell is what defeated Hitler. It can defeat him it can defeat any two bit terrorist. No cowering. No stupid knee jerk reactions, resolute, focused calm. Takes more then some terrorist scum to manipulate my emotions. Maybe Jennifer Lopez in olive oil and nude dancing but, not terrorists. Edited June 6, 2017 by Rue 1
-TSS- Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 The Mayor of London Sadiq Khan is the latest person to have a quarrel with Trump over Trump's tweets concerning the terrorist-attack in London.
Omni Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 "I'll give up my phone when you can pry it from my cold, dead hands" (little hands that is)
DogOnPorch Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, -TSS- said: The Mayor of London Sadiq Khan is the latest person to have a quarrel with Trump over Trump's tweets concerning the terrorist-attack in London. Mr Khan is quite the piece of work. Nothing to be alarmed about. Right. No need to seek shelter, those Buzz Bombs are really Nazi Love Rockets. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Mr Khan is quite the piece of work. Nothing to be alarmed about. Right. No need to seek shelter, those Buzz Bombs are really Nazi Love Rockets. So you're reading comprehension is as bad as Trump's?
DogOnPorch Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, Omni said: So you're reading comprehension is as bad as Trump's? You're free to support Islam. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rue said: Debates, criticism of extremist, terrorist or fundamentalist views or for that matter anything is not a phobia. If someone deliberately smeers an entire people with negativity they might be afraid of something which drives their hatred and scapegoating of these people.. but not all the time. Are all people's equal? Are all people's worthy of respect and admiration? Suppose I read polls which says 74% of the population in a given country supports Sharia law, 70% explicitly support the 'corporal punishments' under Sharia for thieves and the like, 81% favour stoning for adultery, 86% favour death for anyone who leaves Islam, 94% feel religious courts should decide family and property disputes, and over 90% of the women have been subjected to female genital mutilation when young. Furthermore, in this country, Christians are routinely attacked and murdered, and they have few rights, compared to the rest of the population, due to general bigotry towards them. Further, the average IQ in this country is just 81. Would I be smearing such a country if I suggested I didn't think much of their culture and values, and that I'd rather not have them come and live next door to me? Edited June 6, 2017 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 13 hours ago, GostHacked said: What part of this thread is derailed? I mean this is how this board is now. The zionist conspiracy bullshit part. 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Goddess Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 15 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Among us... http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/05/preacher-who-helped-radicalize-london-attacker-lives-in-michigan/ And why hasn't he been turned in by any mosques/congregations/whatever ? 1 "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
DogOnPorch Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, Goddess said: And why hasn't he been turned in by any mosques/congregations/whatever ? Good question....if moderate Muslims are in fact a majority. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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