GostHacked Posted July 11, 2017 Report Posted July 11, 2017 12 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: 99% of folks toss around the word xenophobia w/o a clue as to who Xenophon was. I wonder if the Greeks had any logical reason to...errr....fear...the Persian Empire...100 times its size. Maybe because xenophobia is a common word that describes an irrational fear of others. You don't need to know who Xenophon was to understand the concept. 1
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2017 Report Posted July 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, GostHacked said: Maybe because xenophobia is a common word that describes an irrational fear of others. You don't need to know who Xenophon was to understand the concept. So Greece's fear of the Persian Empire was irrational? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted July 11, 2017 Report Posted July 11, 2017 13 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Islam is a religion, not a skin colour...this is not going to change with the phase of the Moon. Every time you or your Islamic cohorts try to pretend Islam is a skin colour, I'll be redundant yet again. You realize you're wasting your time, right? To these people everyone's objection to Islam is based on most of its adherents being 'brown' - even though in point of fact, most Arabs aren't brown at all. Lots of them are as white as anyone. Even the ones who are a shade darker could resemble Italians or Spaniards or Portuguese. My Lebanese barber is as white as I am I've said before I'd rather bring over ten thousand Syrian Christians than one thousand Syrian Muslims but to these people it's all about racists hating 'brown people'. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted July 11, 2017 Report Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, GostHacked said: Maybe because xenophobia is a common word that describes an irrational fear of others. You don't need to know who Xenophon was to understand the concept. The point is that those who use it ignore whether or not the concern/fear is in any way justified or rational. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted July 11, 2017 Report Posted July 11, 2017 46 minutes ago, Argus said: The point is that those who use it ignore whether or not the concern/fear is in any way justified or rational. So are we complaining about the use of xenophobe? or Islamophobe?
Argus Posted July 11, 2017 Report Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, GostHacked said: So are we complaining about the use of xenophobe? or Islamophobe? Both rest upon the question of whether concerns about Muslims are rational, do they not? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Guest Posted July 12, 2017 Report Posted July 12, 2017 13 hours ago, jacee said: What are you blathering on about? You're just not making any sense. My mistake. When you said this: He's my homie. That's not hatred. That's just schooling a long-winded racist. It's done with love. Lol I thought you were talking about the cowardly thug who threw the sucker punch at the end of the video.
GostHacked Posted July 12, 2017 Report Posted July 12, 2017 16 hours ago, Argus said: Both rest upon the question of whether concerns about Muslims are rational, do they not? Regardless of the truth, you are going to think otherwise. As I said before, our government is more of a threat to us that Islam. Is our government rational? Actions that were taken 15 years ago are now starting to cause issues here. This was easily predicted even by the most brain dead of individuals.
Argus Posted July 12, 2017 Report Posted July 12, 2017 4 hours ago, GostHacked said: Regardless of the truth, you are going to think otherwise. As I said before, our government is more of a threat to us that Islam. Is our government rational? Actions that were taken 15 years ago are now starting to cause issues here. This was easily predicted even by the most brain dead of individuals. You mean letting in millions of third world immigrants, particular religious fanatics? I agree with that. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted July 13, 2017 Report Posted July 13, 2017 On 7/11/2017 at 3:12 PM, Argus said: Both rest upon the question of whether concerns about Muslims are rational, do they not? Meanwhile our own government does things that are of much more immediate concern, but that's not even on your radar. Billions of weapons sold to Saudi Arabia, but we complain about Khadr.
GostHacked Posted July 13, 2017 Report Posted July 13, 2017 On 7/12/2017 at 0:44 PM, Argus said: You mean letting in millions of third world immigrants, particular religious fanatics? I agree with that. What? You forgot about the war on terror already? You know that this WOT forced many people with NO CHOICE but to move out of the places we are bombing.
Argus Posted July 13, 2017 Report Posted July 13, 2017 1 hour ago, GostHacked said: What? You forgot about the war on terror already? You know that this WOT forced many people with NO CHOICE but to move out of the places we are bombing. Drivel. Where was the flood of refugees when the US and its allies invaded Afghanistan and Iraq? Nowhere to be found. Then the US and its allies left Iraq, and most of them left Afghanistan. Now there's masses of refugees. Of course, most of the so-called refugees crossing into Europe aren't from war zones at all. They're from North Africa. Why are they coming? Because they've discovered that European leaders have no spines. If they cross into Europe and say the magic word "refugee" they'll be taken in and cared for for the rest of their lives, provided with free housing, clothes and food, and never have to work another day. Why WOULDN'T they come!? Honestly, the wonder isn't that they're coming, it's that anyone is not. Hell, the Europeans even send ships far out into the Med to grab people and take them to Europe. Before too long they'll be waiting offshore of Libya to pick people up and ferry them to Europastan. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 17 hours ago, Argus said: Drivel. Where was the flood of refugees when the US and its allies invaded Afghanistan and Iraq? Nowhere to be found. Then the US and its allies left Iraq, and most of them left Afghanistan. Now there's masses of refugees. Of course, most of the so-called refugees crossing into Europe aren't from war zones at all. They're from North Africa. Why are they coming? Because they've discovered that European leaders have no spines. If they cross into Europe and say the magic word "refugee" they'll be taken in and cared for for the rest of their lives, provided with free housing, clothes and food, and never have to work another day. Why WOULDN'T they come!? Honestly, the wonder isn't that they're coming, it's that anyone is not. Hell, the Europeans even send ships far out into the Med to grab people and take them to Europe. Before too long they'll be waiting offshore of Libya to pick people up and ferry them to Europastan. It takes time, and you are seeing the results of that now in huge waves of people heading to Europe. Before it was just Afghanistan and Iraq, but now throw Syria, Egypt, Libya ect ect ect and watch those people come rolling in. And what you think there are no war zones in Africa? Give your head a slap.
Argus Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 2 hours ago, GostHacked said: It takes time, and you are seeing the results of that now in huge waves of people heading to Europe. Before it was just Afghanistan and Iraq, but now throw Syria, Egypt, Libya ect ect ect and watch those people come rolling in. And what you think there are no war zones in Africa? Give your head a slap. There have ALWAYS been war zones in Africa, but war is not what's causing people to flood into Europe. Poverty is the main motivation. The lowest refugee in Germany or Sweden lives better than most of the people in Niger, Mali or Algeria. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 Africa is a war zone thanks to the creation of some 100 million plus AK-47s...distributed liberally w/ ammo. To put this in context: there are approx 8 million M-16s on the planet. A similar number of AR-15s. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Argus said: There have ALWAYS been war zones in Africa, but war is not what's causing people to flood into Europe. Poverty is the main motivation. The lowest refugee in Germany or Sweden lives better than most of the people in Niger, Mali or Algeria. Yep, right out of 1984, there are no war zones in Africa, there has ALWAYS been war zones in Africa. Yes there is poverty, but we are seeing them come via Africa in larger numbers over the past 5 years. Even we here in CANADA are seeing a huge influx of refugees crossing from the US, however I cannot say why that is the case. However the more refugees, the more strain it will put on European nations and they are going to pop one by one in a nice cascading effect. So what are the options? Close the border?
Argus Posted July 16, 2017 Report Posted July 16, 2017 On 7/14/2017 at 4:21 PM, GostHacked said: Yep, right out of 1984, there are no war zones in Africa, there has ALWAYS been war zones in Africa. Yes there is poverty, but we are seeing them come via Africa in larger numbers over the past 5 years. Even we here in CANADA are seeing a huge influx of refugees crossing from the US, however I cannot say why that is the case. Because the first ones here called back and said "Hey! Life is great here! Come on over! Once you're here everyone is your bitch!" On 7/14/2017 at 4:21 PM, GostHacked said: So what are the options? Close the border? Send them back. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted July 16, 2017 Report Posted July 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Argus said: Because the first ones here called back and said "Hey! Life is great here! Come on over! Once you're here everyone is your bitch!" Send them back. I have no problems with sending them back, but that does not solve the problem of why there is a massive migrant population moving in.
Omni Posted July 16, 2017 Report Posted July 16, 2017 On 7/14/2017 at 10:22 AM, Argus said: but war is not what's causing people to flood into Europe. Poverty is the main motivation. Looked at any before/after pictures of Syria lately? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/aleppo-chilling-photos-show-how-the-ancient-city-has-changed-since-the-syrian-conflict-started-a7362796.html
Argus Posted July 16, 2017 Report Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, GostHacked said: I have no problems with sending them back, but that does not solve the problem of why there is a massive migrant population moving in. Because they CAN. Because life is better here. Because once you arrive you get free housing, free food, free medical care, free education, free clothing, free everything. Forever. That's at a bare minimum. That's the worst case scenario for you. For someone from Mali or Algeria or Somalia that's damned attractive. Edited July 16, 2017 by Argus 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
betsy Posted July 17, 2017 Report Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) Not only are we hooked to support so many......now, they want a Muslim-only cemetery! Quote Voters reject Quebec City-area Muslim cemetery project http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/voters-reject-quebec-city-area-muslim-cemetery-project-1.3505505 They're going to fight for it. I bet they'll get it too..... Edited July 17, 2017 by betsy
Argus Posted July 17, 2017 Report Posted July 17, 2017 5 hours ago, betsy said: Not only are we hooked to support so many......now, they want a Muslim-only cemetery! http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/voters-reject-quebec-city-area-muslim-cemetery-project-1.3505505 They're going to fight for it. I bet they'll get it too..... Shouldn't they? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted July 17, 2017 Report Posted July 17, 2017 On 7/16/2017 at 3:32 PM, Argus said: Because they CAN. Because life is better here. Because once you arrive you get free housing, free food, free medical care, free education, free clothing, free everything. Forever. That's at a bare minimum. That's the worst case scenario for you. For someone from Mali or Algeria or Somalia that's damned attractive. Now WHY is it better here? Ah never mind, I am beating a dead horse here.
GostHacked Posted July 17, 2017 Report Posted July 17, 2017 5 hours ago, betsy said: Not only are we hooked to support so many......now, they want a Muslim-only cemetery! http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/voters-reject-quebec-city-area-muslim-cemetery-project-1.3505505 They're going to fight for it. I bet they'll get it too..... They did not get it, but in their defense, there raises a question about Catholic and Jewish only cemeteries. Should we ban that as well? The fair answer is yes. Let them have it, or take it away from everyone. 1
GostHacked Posted July 17, 2017 Report Posted July 17, 2017 On 7/16/2017 at 3:20 PM, Omni said: Looked at any before/after pictures of Syria lately? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/aleppo-chilling-photos-show-how-the-ancient-city-has-changed-since-the-syrian-conflict-started-a7362796.html Some of those 'before and after' in Iraq show much of the same.
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