Michael Hardner Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Argus said: 1) Would you care to repeat this in English? You reduce concern about violent religious fanaticism and values hostile to our own to 'complaints about dirty foreigners' in a fashion that would give credit to the most sanctimonious social justice warrior. 2) So now you appear to be sulking because I have suggested that a topic called "This week in Islam" is not the appropriate one to discuss culture differences. Are you incapable of starting such a topic yourself under the appropriate forum? 1) I am encapsulating the practice of complaining about foreigners, eg. 'goat herders', in a vacuum. It's a meta criticism. 2) It's inaccurate to say "it's not appropriate". More like it's too narrow. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Argus said: Perhaps you would be happier banning all further discussion of immigration. I find your efforts at shutting down discussions on this subject to be contemptible. I'm really sorry to have offended you. Honestly, though, even you must tire of this same theme over and over. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Guest Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 55 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm really sorry to have offended you. Honestly, though, even you must tire of this same theme over and over. Of course, but as it's in the news every day, it's tough to ignore it. When something is as fundamentally outrageous as killing someone else for not believing what you believe, it's always worthy of comment. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 Meanwhile...Saudi Arabia is elected to the UN Commission on the Status of Women...not a joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh6r89JebTo Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: Meanwhile...Saudi Arabia is elected to the UN Commission on the Status of Women...not a joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh6r89JebTo That's old news. But hey, they are allies, and the best kind right? Quote
Argus Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm really sorry to have offended you. Honestly, though, even you must tire of this same theme over and over. What I tire of is arrogant people from the Left trying to shut down conversations because they aren't capable of countering arguments. You've been basically doing what Charles calls trolling on this topic, trying to derail discussion for the last two days without contributing anything to the actual topic. If you tire of the discussion then why don't you go elsewhere rather than treat us to your sneers and contempt? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Hardner Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, Argus said: What I tire of is arrogant people from the Left trying to shut down conversations because they aren't capable of countering arguments. You've been basically doing what Charles calls trolling on this topic, trying to derail discussion for the last two days without contributing anything to the actual topic. If you tire of the discussion then why don't you go elsewhere rather than treat us to your sneers and contempt? No, I am asking for a wider discussion and that's not the same thing. Like a fish who doesn't understand water, I feel you are unable to suggest such a discussion. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted April 23, 2017 Report Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: No, I am asking for a wider discussion and that's not the same thing. Like a fish who doesn't understand water, I feel you are unable to suggest such a discussion. You are asking us to change the subject, and being deliberately insulting while doing so. I know you've said you're sorry for offending me but given the words below it's hard not to believe offending those who continue to use this topic to point out the ourages of Islam was your intent Quote There do seem to be lots of people who want to complain to each other about dirty foreigners here, and how they don't accept criticism the irony being completely lost. They have posted on this thread that they don't care what others have to say about their culture, as they moo endlessly about other cultures and their need for reform. These kind of discussions you want to have go nowhere. It is simple. There isn't anything to discuss, you're right. Which makes me wonder what the point of posting is. You must think so or we would have at least 1% of the threads where you crap all over Muslims saying *something* bad about white people. Do you have any idea how dull it is to see such posts month after month ? What are you hoping to achieve ? [/quote] I get that you are made uncomfortable with a topic whose sole purpose seems to be to post outrageous behaviour from an identifiable group. And you wonder why we do it. Because we ARE outraged by such conduct. And we are inundated with commentary from the opinion makers with their liberal orthodoxy and political correctness about how peaceful Islam is, and how it's only the very rare Muslim who has the slightest hostile feelings or unpleasant social values, and we KNOW that's so much bullshit. It's irritating to listen to so much obnoxious and hypocritical apologizing by liberal islamophiles on behalf of Islam and Muslims for behaviour they would be unhesitatingly attacking were it to come from any other group. So in a small way, this is our repudiation of that nonsensical attempt at molding public opinion. As for other topics about Islam, the reason they usually crap out and become worthless is because the liberal islamophiles are outraged by anything which suggests disrespect for Islam, and respond with slurs, insults and moralizing, quickly changing the topic from Islam, to the imagined moral failings of whomever has been critical of it. Something the moderation here does very little about. Edited April 24, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted April 24, 2017 Report Posted April 24, 2017 5 hours ago, GostHacked said: That's old news. But hey, they are allies, and the best kind right? April 22nd, 2017...really, really, really old. You're free to support Saudi Arabia. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted April 24, 2017 Report Posted April 24, 2017 He does, we all do, whether we like it or not. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
GostHacked Posted April 24, 2017 Report Posted April 24, 2017 16 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: April 22nd, 2017...really, really, really old. You're free to support Saudi Arabia. You and I both support them by proxy, because our government does. I wonder if bitching at Saudi Arabia or our government would be more productive. Quote
OftenWrong Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, GostHacked said: You and I both support them by proxy, because our government does. I wonder if bitching at Saudi Arabia or our government would be more productive. Than what, say? Putting the turban on yourself? Edited April 25, 2017 by OftenWrong it's my perogative Quote
eyeball Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Bitching wouldn't be anywhere near as productive as refusing to ship weapons to them. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
betsy Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Check this out! Quote Wild boars overrun Islamic State position, kill 3 militants Three Islamic State militants setting up an ambush in a bitterly contested area of northern Iraq were killed by a herd of stampeding boars, local leaders say. Sheikh Anwar al-Assi, a chief of the local Ubaid tribe and supervisor of anti-ISIS forces, told The Times of London the militants were hiding on the edge of a field about 50 miles southwest of Kirkuk when the boars overwhelmed them Sunday. Five other militants were injured, al-Assi said. He said the group was poised to attack a band of local tribesmen who had fled to nearby mountains since militants seized the town of Hawija three years ago. Al-Assi said the militants had summarily executed 25 people attempting to flee the militant's would-be caliphate in the three days before the boars attacked. Hawija, about 100 miles south of Mosul, sees dozens of residents flee to Kurdish Kirkuk daily, and the Iraqi military has planned to launch an offensive in the region after a laborious effort to liberate Mosul is completed. more.... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/04/25/wild-boars-overrun-islamic-state-position-kill-3-militants/100876844/ Oh the irony.........radical Muslims - killed by PIGS! Edited April 26, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote
Goddess Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, betsy said: Oh the irony.........radical Muslims - killed by PIGS! Haha, that's what I thought when I saw that article this morning, too. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
DogOnPorch Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 Pigs: 1 Islam: 0 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 On 4/24/2017 at 8:29 PM, OftenWrong said: Than what, say? Putting the turban on yourself? Turbans are worn by Siks, not Muslims. Educate yourself dude. Quote
AngusThermopyle Posted April 27, 2017 Report Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, GostHacked said: Turbans are worn by Siks, not Muslims. Educate yourself dude. Wearing turbans is common among Sikhs, including women, who refer to it as a Dastar. In certain other faith communities, the headgear also serves as a religious observance, including among Shia Muslims, who regard turban-wearing as Sunnah Mu'akkadah (confirmed tradition). Educate yourself dude. Edited April 27, 2017 by AngusThermopyle 2 Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
DogOnPorch Posted April 27, 2017 Report Posted April 27, 2017 Austrian President claims the day will come when all women will wear the headscarf in order to confront Islamophobia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxrSYO9N7AY I'm sure that will work-out. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted April 27, 2017 Report Posted April 27, 2017 14 hours ago, AngusThermopyle said: Wearing turbans is common among Sikhs, including women, who refer to it as a Dastar. In certain other faith communities, the headgear also serves as a religious observance, including among Shia Muslims, who regard turban-wearing as Sunnah Mu'akkadah (confirmed tradition). Educate yourself dude. Oh come the f*ck on. What is the first thing that pops into your head regarding turbans? Muslims?? Really? Quote
Argus Posted April 27, 2017 Report Posted April 27, 2017 20 hours ago, AngusThermopyle said: Wearing turbans is common among Sikhs, including women, who refer to it as a Dastar. I have seen lots of Sikh men wearing turbans. I have never seen a woman wearing one. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Guest Posted April 27, 2017 Report Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Argus said: I have seen lots of Sikh men wearing turbans. I have never seen a woman wearing one. I have. They had beards, just like the men. Flat chested too. Edited April 27, 2017 by bcsapper Quote
OftenWrong Posted April 28, 2017 Report Posted April 28, 2017 21 hours ago, AngusThermopyle said: Wearing turbans is common among Sikhs, including women, who refer to it as a Dastar. In certain other faith communities, the headgear also serves as a religious observance, including among Shia Muslims, who regard turban-wearing as Sunnah Mu'akkadah (confirmed tradition). Educate yourself dude. Note consistency of headgear worn by these guys- http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/gty_most_wanted_terrorists_jc_161024_4x3_992.jpg Quote
Argus Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) In Indonesia, Jakarta's ex governor, a Christian, Basuki Purnama, is in prison today, having been convicted of blasphemy. His crime? During the recent election, his opponents used a verse from the Koran to say that Muslims cannot be governed by a non-Muslim. Purname, said his opponents were deceiving people. For this he was charged with blaspheme, and riots engulfed the state. Now he's been sentenced to two years in prison. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-politics-idUSKBN1842GE Edited May 9, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Guest Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 51 minutes ago, Argus said: In Indonesia, Jakarta's ex governor, a Christian, Basuki Purnama, is in prison today, having been convicted of blasphemy. His crime? During the recent election, his opponents used a verse from the Koran to say that Muslims cannot be governed by a non-Muslim. Purname, said his opponents were deceiving people. For this he was charged with blaspheme, and riots engulfed the state. Now he's been sentenced to two years in prison. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-politics-idUSKBN1842GE He should have tried it in Ireland. Safer. Quote
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