GostHacked Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Agree with everything but the last sentence. I'm sure there's certain unique issues that come up being a female on a male-dominated forum that guys don't have to deal with (and maybe vice-versa). It can't be anything but good to have her on the team, to see and react to these possible issues and give a female perspective. We've already seen that balance and perspective with her participating in the threads as a member. If mods do not or cannot contribute to the threads then what balance would that provide?
Moonlight Graham Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 We've already seen that balance and perspective with her participating in the threads as a member. If mods do not or cannot contribute to the threads then what balance would that provide? Michael posts though right? "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
GostHacked Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Michael posts though right? Not sure if he is a straight up mod like CA, given the title of forum facilitator.
Charles Anthony Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Not sure if he is a straight up mod like CA, given the title of forum facilitator. He is a full mod. In a practical sense, he must no longer seek approval for any of his interventions. That I'm not on the list yet? I'm not on the list yet because I'm not officially on the moderating team yet. You are now. Problem solved. If a female is going to take on the responsibility of a facilitator, that should include consideration of other female posters, whether or not they are active. A facilitator needs to rise above the impulse to obtain approval from other members. They have the added responsibility 'especially female facilitators' to address issues that female posters come across time and again in forums. Certainly, these issues won't be addressed by male facilitators like they should be by female facilitators.If you find a post is objectionably sexist, report it. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
capricorn Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 I thought it was a joke, kidding around, some friendly banter - and rather nice to see here, where so much seems to be so serious.I agree. IMO, without the occasional outburst of humour this place would be somewhat intolerable. I'm pleased with Kimmy's nomination as facilitator. It's a positive step. "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
BubberMiley Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 We can't know if you're overreacting if you won't say what exactly you find sexist. It's obviously not as obvious as you think. "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BC_chick Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 She thought Kimmy was being objectified for her looks - real or imagined. This is something we don't do to male posters (except Hal). I wasn't offended but I had no problem understanding what she was saying. I'm actually surprised by the number of people who didn't. It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
dialamah Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 She thought Kimmy was being objectified for her looks - real or imagined. This is something we don't do to male posters (except Hal). I wasn't offended but I had no problem understanding what she was saying. I'm actually surprised by the number of people who didn't. Thanks for clarifying. As I recall, the comment included the words "half-Swede blonde", and that descriptor was perceived as objectification?
BC_chick Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) I did not take a stance on the issue, that's why I haven't commented one way or another as to whether or not it was sexist. The only thing I'm saying is that WCR's point was not so elusive to have been missed by the entire board. Edited January 9, 2016 by BC_chick It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Hal 9000 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 She thought Kimmy was being objectified for her looks - real or imagined. This is something we don't do to male posters (except Hal). I wasn't offended but I had no problem understanding what she was saying. I'm actually surprised by the number of people who didn't. Am i really being objectified? I feel so used! The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
kimmy Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 Am i really being objectified? I feel so used! Sexy eye. -k (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
BC_chick Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 Am i really being objectified? I feel so used! After a lifetime, I thought you'd have gotten used to it. It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Hal 9000 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) WCR - If a female is going to take on the responsibility of a facilitator, that should include consideration of other female posters, whether or not they are active. A facilitator needs to rise above the impulse to obtain approval from other members. They have the added responsibility 'especially female facilitators' to address issues that female posters come across time and again in forums. Certainly, these issues won't be addressed by male facilitators like they should be by female facilitators This is a really informative post from WCR. The idea here is that Kimmy should not facilitate in a fair way, that her purpose should be to advocate a certain perspective, a feminist perspective. She should "rise above the impulse to obtain approval....", is implying that she should not be friends with the men, only the women. She should lord above the men and rally the feminist agenda. WCR has rallied for women only threads (fair enough) and equal female representation in the moderating staff (also, fair enough). But there are maybe 5 or 6 regular female posters on this forum and now a female facillitator - which, not one guy has argued or protested. Problem is; Kimmy is the most politically fair and balanced female on these boards and that's just not gonna be good enough for WCR. Now that women have a female facilitator, WCR will no longer be able to target her objections to Charles or MH, she can't claim victimhood because women are now represented in the mod team. WCR doesn't want a female mod, she wants a radical feminist mod. If I had to guess, I'd say Kimmy is in for a rough ride from WCR. Edited January 9, 2016 by Hal 9000 The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
dialamah Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 I did not take a stance on the issue, that's why I haven't commented one way or another as to whether or not it was sexist. The only thing I'm saying is that WCR's point was not so elusive to have been missed by the entire board. Well, it hasn't been confirmed that the problem was the comment in Kimmy's hair/ethnicity, but not denied either. So, is this post I made equally as sexist, given that it references a male member's appearance, real or imagined?
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 Insults are a violation of forum rules, regardless of sex or gender. Besides, the sex/gender of any member remains unproven. Perhaps I will change mine to female. Economics trumps Virtue.
kimmy Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 If anyone is expecting me to "balance" the moderating team by sticking up for certain causes or viewpoints, or attacking other causes or viewpoints, that's unfortunate. That's certainly not my goal. My intention is to try to help promote good discussions. -k (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
GostHacked Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 If anyone is expecting me to "balance" the moderating team by sticking up for certain causes or viewpoints, or attacking other causes or viewpoints, that's unfortunate. That's certainly not my goal. My intention is to try to help promote good discussions. -k That's kind of what I was getting at. You already provide the balance I think others are looking for without jumping behind a 'cause' perse. I think you'll do well. If only others could get on the 'promote good discussions' bit. Many threads I see as of late prompt me to skip the entire thread due to ...garbage.
Argus Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 Good. Because, with that, I'm going to point out that ignoring the OP has been happening since my warning. Stay on topic moving forward, people. This isn't about immigration - start a new thread. Consider this a warning, thanks. The above is from the BC condo language dispute topic. It makes it pretty clear that no further discussion of immigration is acceptable on this topic. I disagree that immigration is not a central part of the topic. This is not strictly a discussion about a condominium in BC. Who cares about a single condo in BC? The stronger subtext is the problem of integrating vast numbers of immigrants from different countries, and what happens when they prefer not to integrate but instead form large ethnic ghettos where native born Canadians are made to feel unwelcome. If that isn't about immigration I don't know what is. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Hardner Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 I get what you're saying but we already have threads about immigration. If the subject is central to the condo discussion then I think you need to tie it back to that or you will drift into unrelated immigration topics. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) I get what you're saying but we already have threads about immigration. If the subject is central to the condo discussion then I think you need to tie it back to that or you will drift into unrelated immigration topics. I believe I was doing just that. After all, the whole discussion is that Chinese speakers became the majority and changed the rules to exclude non-Chinese speakers. That was tied into the problem of Richmond retail outlets not having signs in English, and then the broader implications if large scale immigration from China continued apace. And the only active topics involving immigration are 'Islamophobia' and 'Syrian refugees' for which immigration is again only a background. Edited January 10, 2016 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Hardner Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Exactly - so start a new thread where this angle can be fully explored - untethered from constantly having to tie back to the BC Condo issue. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
sharkman Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 Morning Hardner, you've raised good points and I see you have your same approach to things. Good to see you posting again!
Smallc Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 I question the BC Condo thread existing in the federal section.
Charles Anthony Posted January 10, 2016 Report Posted January 10, 2016 I question the BC Condo thread existing in the federal section.Thread moved. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
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