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Imagine having the leader of a liberal democracy who is so childish, petulant and unstable as to make such a bizarre announcement. In any properly run country he’d be facing his party colleagues tonight for an explanation. America is in serious trouble.

This it outrageous but this type of stuff is happening in England right now. Its pure insanity, this poor girl was walking home from her job and was raped and the court decided that the crime wasn't serious enough to deport him because it didn't last long enough. These are the people you liberals love and want to protect. https://www.aol.com/news/did-not-last-long-enough-212131283.html

It’s become clear that the U.S. is no longer functioning as a democracy because one man is getting away with setting reckless policy capriciously without any effective checks on his power. Canada must become less dependent on the U.S. and chart its own course. The U.S. isn’t a trustworthy partner.

He's just hoping that they'll get around to him someday and he can claim to have a 'love life'. "Why are we even talking about this?" oh mike He doesn't have a good answer for that so he's going to pretend that it's nuts that we're even discussing it. This is a very chronic left wing tactic and one of mike's fav's

They want to ascribe a personality disorder to someone without the clinical credentials or assessment to do so. Sad They cannot diagnose without a clinical assessment. Those psychologists who are diagnosing someone not their client without conducting a proper assessment should lose their license for malpractice

There's a large amount of stuff found in the ground, I think it's called oil. Wonder if that might have any potential to replace the heavily polluting battery production. Maybe we can use it to replace the corrupt green stuff and electrickery that's going on.

Unfortunately, the Foundation misrepresented what Reagan said because like so many institutions in America it now toadies to the fragile ego of one poorly informed man. Reagan was opposed to tariffs in general and regretted when he felt he had to employ them, a completely different position from that of Trump.

Don't fall for the same kinds of nonsense that launched the EV disaster onto a naive world. Hydrogen is a nice, clean fuel, and one can actually make green bio- hydrogen. Problem is: as with so-called "green" electricity green H2 is extremely expensive and can't exist without massive government subsidies. Then come some more problems: it is extremely difficult to transport and store (will simply leak right through solid metal tanks - and for iron alloys embrittle them to the point of easy rupture). If you want to use it in a vehicle, the tanks and related hardware are very heavy, expensive and can be dangerous. One of our associates did a project to determine feasibility of H2 fuel cells in aviation power. Turns out when you run one at the level of constant power needed in an airplane, the energy it takes to cool the cells is more than the energy it takes to fly the airplane. And on it goes. Getting back to the topic of the thread: The truly ridiculous idea that government money can fund a business is pretty much a 100% recipe for failure. As with literally EVERY "green" initiative it's all about who gets what kickback or gift to waste. Business has to be run by businessmen, not financiers. Products that have a genuine market demand at a profitable price, Bureaucrats and the backroom boys of politics are only there for and only capable of understanding the scams and skim. They have no idea and no vested interest in products, markets and customers. That's why they (the projects) always fail - the fix was in at the start and the finance guys just collect their golden parachute and get on to the next scam. So: how do EVs fit into the marketplace? While the environmental damage from making and disposing of their batteries is ecologically a disaster, there is a place for them in the global transportation mix. IMHO (and this is something I have looked at for clients) they actually make sense for the first mile and last mile P&D business that the GM vans were targeted at. But: if there isn't a market out there demanding them to meet a real need, their time is not yet here. Then we get into the orange man's tariffs and Canadian plant closures. At the end of WWII we had a fairly diverse and nearly self sufficient value added infrastructure. Over the decades, US (and other foreign) entities snapped up the businesses and built what we used to call the "branch plant" model. Gradually, this diversity drifted more and more into Ontario, bleeding much of the rest dry. This was driven by the easy and imbalanced access to the US market - particularly the car market. Unbalanced because we usually exported a lot more than we imported. Even though it is being done in a vicious manner there is some legitimacy in what's behind it. We have had a century to develop other markets and for our business world to develop domestic independence - and we did exactly the opposite.

A lot MAGAs and fascists have these weird homoerotic fascinations with their leader

Didn’t you have your fill of conquest already? Those adventures didn’t go too well.

As long as the Americans understand the consquenses of what will happen. Perhaps they may want to review the casualty figures the Russians have suppered. Canada is the same size as Ukraine and the US is the same size as Russia. Or the times the USA has been defeated by little countries like Afghanistan and Viet Nam. How many American kids are they willing to sacrifice for the glorification of Trump.

OK, how about you listen to more than the cherry picked paragraph you want to present? "However, this is not an attempt to offer a clinical diagnosis of the current occupant of the White House. That would require a personal clinical interview and other procedures. "

The leader of Ukraine is a Russian-speaking Jewish comedian, hardly a natural standard bearer for tribal nationalism. I believe this war is about defending freedom in Eastern Europe. Glory to Ukraine.

This bizarrely insane view of eyeball's carries over into all his thinking, on all subjects. I've never encountered it before. It's literally insane. His argument is always thus: If a criminal doesn't OUTRIGHT TELL YOU that he is committing a crime, then he hasn't committed a crime. If a politician doesn't OUTRIGHT SAY THE WORD "PROMISE" then whatever he tells you he's going to do, is not a promise. If a murderer says he didn't do it, NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE will convince eyeball that he did, because the murderer didnt' admit it. For years, his arguments have consisted of: criminals, liars, thieves, embezzlers - they all tell you IN ADVANCE of what they are doing and if they don't tell you - then they didn't do it!!! Eyeball is ALWAYS running cover for corruption and immorality. Then claims to be against both. It's literally a circle of insanity.

Yes, stop leftism - it's opening the doors to foreign invaders. Thank you, Mike.

Narcissists are really good at making you look like the bad guy

Yeah well, yours are all fat, speaking of scale, and your mothers dress you funny.

Of course I read THE EVIDENCE, doofus. YOU DON'T KNOW what you're talking about and have NO EVIDENCE. How to argue like a NARCISSIST.

YOUR OPINION means NOTHING without EVIDENCE, CLOWN.

I think Carney is taking the high road and not insulting or demeaning Trump or any of his minions. I also think Carney is doing what he can to find other trade partners. Problem with that is that trade partners cannot be made in a day. They have contracts and deals that they must comply with and then Canada can step in. All that may take a while, sometimes years. I would hope that Carney makes an announcement that everything we make shall be made with Canadian aluminum and steel and lumber and that we should try our hardest to buy Canadian. While the emotion of Canadians is there, it would be good for Carney to actually say that. The good thing is that Carney is trying and maybe even succeeding in weaning us off the US. If we would accept China's offer to accept their EV's, we would get a lot of our trade back with them and put a huge dent into the US EV production.

I'm just wonder what happened to all that English schooling we received, how to use yesterdays genders, and then one day we wake up and the next generation has change it all on us....because of some fantasy they decided to makeup and force upon the rest of us....And what is really mind blowing is just how easy it was for the rest of the population to buy into all of it.... How our academic society has bought into all of it, and now it is part of the daily education system...without any facts based on reality or science.... Don't get me wrong you want to identify as a dog and howl at the moon in your own house go for it...but don't include me in your fantasy...

He’s a pathetic loser with a lifetime of incompetence and crime behind him.

Mate, I don’t care. I’m not involved. But obviously if you tried that question with somebody who did, in the flesh, you could be facing consequences. It’s deliberately insulting as I hope you realize. But you’re really talking to the wrong person here. I’m sure there are lots of people who can get fired up properly about this. I’m afraid I can’t. Over and out from me.

The U.S. is not an appealing partner under current leadership. They don’t play fair and are basically extorting. There’s no winning this way because the U.S. isn’t seen now as a friendly force for good. They can certainly impose their power on other countries to extract benefits, but those short term gains aren’t worth the long term damage and distrust. I can see China benefiting and new alliances forming. Trump has essentially caved into Putin and Xi is holding firm in the tariff wars. The U.S. is losing allies fast.

Yup, here's the media release it came from. https://liberal.ca/liberals-to-protect-canadian-auto-workers-and-stand-up-against-tariffs/ You won't find the word promise in there either. It's just an announcement on top of a plan. If it was a promise the release would have concluded With Mark Carney, we will secure Canada, invest in our workers, and keep Canada strong. We promise. You're so gullible you'll run to the bank with anything a politician says especially Carney. LMAO!

EXACTLY

The Americans would occupy most of the main population centres in a few hours without resistance. Things will settle down in a couple of weeks. The occupation forces will find pamplets stating that, while we have enjoyed their visit, it is time to go home to your husbands and children. We are Canadians after all. The next step is Americans receiving postcard from their home town with photos of their spouse or kids. As new American citizens, we would be covered by the 2nd amendment and our proximity and freedom of travel in the "rest" of the US, is an advantage. IED's will be used all over the US. There are 800,000 Canadians living in the US. The current affection Canadians have for Americans is already fading. I heard a vetran say she fought for this country in World War Two and she would do it again. She is 102. An attempt to annex Canada will create absolute hate. If you wonder how Canadians treat our enemies, ask the German SS. The strategy is to provoke a harsh reaction. No Americans will be safe, except for US Marines. We may be polite, but we aren't stupid. The war could last 10 or 20 years, but the Americans would leave. We would bleed them out. The US has tried to invade Canada twice before and we defeated them both times. The US has never won a major war without allies. Who would they have to help? Again, how many American kids is Trump willing to sacrifice for his vanity.

‘Mere personal pleasantries’ are actually rather important in keeping a society together and I’m not the one getting all excited about this. I’m just curious how far you would actually go in a social situation. That’s a legitimate question, I think. From your response it sounds to me like you’d probably say nothing but bark about it all the way home which is probably a good thing for the country. I also notice that, in general, school kids are much less vigilant and indignant about these matters than older people. It’s just regarded as one of things one encounters in life, no big deal.

Speaking for myself I laugh at how much you people prioritize your opposition to issues you all too often need to go looking for to find. Its like for very conservative reaction to something that isn't a big deal a progressive action follows that amplifies it. It's like a feedback loop where fads are triggered as easily as they trigger. How many boys grew their hair long and girls wore pants when it became obvious how easily these triggered the establishment and their parents back in the day?

That what your girlfriend say's?

I doubt that'll ever happen LMAO! $10 says you won't find the word promise in here either.

You're not having those weird Homosexual fantasies again are you? I think it's time for you to be honest with yourself about a few things so that you can go on to live your best life

Reagan's speech was to explain why he was about to levy tariffs on Japan even though tariffs are generally bad. It's literally what he said. There are so bad generally speaking, we don't like tariffs, tariffs do more harm than good, but in some specific cases such as this one it's necessary. That was his entire message Reagan was a big proponent of free trade and let's not pretend otherwise. That doesn't necessarily mean that trump has to be or that there aren't two ways to solve a problem. But the ad was on the money as far as depicting reagan's attitude towards tariffs

It'll definitely need to be said Americans are the great and generous people who gave Trump the world. He couldn't have done it without them. Let's face it aside from Vietnam, eventually, American voters have been all to happy or oblivious when siccing their governments on the rest of us.

Alberta for sure. Except then they'd have to be carpet bombed. Ontario could probably contract that out to China in exchange for a battery/EV plant or something.

Nope, just that saying it was a promise is a lie.

I'd love to see a Canadian referendum on our policy towards Trump. 1. Kiss Trump's Ass 2. Hit Trump upside the head with a shovel. It would probably yield the biggest majority in Canada's history.

Cite, with Carney's use of the word promise. Should be easy peasy to come up with. It wasn't that long ago.

A problem in the Canadian family is that every premier of a big province sees themselves as a near peer of the PM which is a recipe for chaos while negotiating with the likes of Trump.

No need to convince me... that's the direction but it's not happening at the pace NA auto companies or governments thought it would. With government subsidies cancelled the adoption rate will continue to lag, unless manufacturers pivot to incentivize with lower prices on a typically unprofitable segment of their business right now. China is far ahead of NA towards electrifying their economy in areas like EV's and renewable energy and at some point in the not too distant future will surpass the US as the world's most powerful economy. To your point...there's a very chance that will ripple through our auto future.

The TL/DR version of this: Those pushing this transgenderism madness onto society and onto kids have distorted the language by trying to claim it is "misgendering" to not refer to someone by the gender they "identify" as. The point being, that it is factually and actually misgendering to refer to someone as something they are not. Those of us who care about facts and not living in the delusional lies others want to push, will not play along.

Oh FFS the guy's implying that instead of flying to ASEAN to drum up new trade he should stay in Ottawa with his thumb up his ass and Trump's dick in his mouth. Otherwise who other than the whiner PeePee LePew would create such a topic headline?

Th cult of PeePee LePew is alive and well. blaming the Liberals for the state of the auto industry. The tree to bark up is on the other side of the border, stupid dogs.

I dont care if it's an epidemic! Do not try to warp my words. Its the Libbie way. Lose a debate on common sense...and try to redirect by warping reality. Fly straight or continue to be exposed as a TDS infected dweeb. Its your choice.

I'm not a leftist.

I've been down this road with you... you get very easily distracted by facts. You have said absolutely nothing... Now you're equating an illegal that was drunk driving to them being murders, rapists and thugs. Too funny...

I never changed any subject... if there was even one to begin with? It's a DUI fatality just like the ones that are unfortunately probably happening as I type this. It's beyond shitty and it doesn't matter whether the person's are legal or illegal, but of course in minionland it's a far greater tragedy that is worthy of national news if it involves an illegal...

Yes, god exists AND has a very strong opinion on the way we process asylum seekers. Everything happens for a reason!🙄

Your industry isn’t even globally competitive, there’s no one to sell to. Canada is becoming Bankrupt. Leave it to Canucks to ruin access to the world richest market . However did you managed to messed that up? Good on you Canada. Sovereignty is more important than poverty it seems.

The Liberals have been talking to him for a few years about at least a Cabinet role, and it was something he had mulled. He had advised the LOC on economic issues on multiple occasions including most recently in 2024 when Trudeau was still the presumptive leader. The leadership race was a party referendum on continuing the Trudeau left-wing leadership (represented by Trudeau’s longtime deputy PM Freeland) or pivoting to a more right wing “business Liberal” leadership.