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Lol. No, they didn't have to prove it was part of "election fraud " Again, it appears you have no idea of the details of this case. Only that you're big orange crush was convicted and it's making you cranky. Honestly, why would you even "debate" a case you didn't understand? You just look like a petulant child. Solve the issue. Go read the case. Read the jury instructions. Hell, even read some real news sources if that's too hard.

But that description fits YOU too. What if the claims are true?

Sure. The Libbies in both Canada and the USA, have laid their cards on the table. The "new normal"...take control of the justice system and aim it right at your opposition. Political opposition Is obsolete now. The more apt term is adversary...or even enemy.

The Dems already have the FBI committing crimes for them, and the mainstream media ignores it. Now the courts are openly compromised. The only thing standing between the Dems and a total chokehold on democracy is the supreme court, and they've openly advocated for just stacking it with 4 new demonrat judges. If the Demis can cheat enough to win a strong majority in congress and the senate, there will be 4 new Demonrat judges appointed. The wooden stake was never shoved through the heart of that argument.

Not to mention that despite the lie from the now-banned conservative troll who created this thread, D’Souza is not “highly respected” but rather a convicted felon who pleaded guilty to election fraud. It’s funny how all these right wing lies and fake news stories getting debunked time and again never gives these right wing dupes pause before they fall for the next one. I have a friend who is like this: somehow he’s not a MAGA supporter but he is a populist who is always falling for fake news and hoax claims on facebook from random strangers like the well-known “ farmer giving away free horses due to (x current event in the news)” , even some from satire websites that are clearly meant for humour and say so right in the web page. No matter how often they’re debunked and he admits to being fooled it doesn’t stop him from falling for the next one Its a psychological phenomenon.

Conservative distributor of 2,000 mules cancels movie and book, apologizes for spreading lies: ‘2000 Mules’ Duped Millions of Fools KLAUS MARRE 06/01/24 A right-wing media company has stopped distributing '2000 Mules,' a so-called documentary that spread lies about the 2020 election. The Salem Media Group, a conservative media company, this week made official what every expert already knew: The film, 2,000 Mules, a supposed documentary from right-wing nutj0b Dinesh D’Souza that incorrectly led supporters of Donald Trump to believe that Democrats engaged in “ballot stuffing” in 2020, was a work of fiction. The company announced Friday that it has removed the film from its platforms and will no longer distribute it or the accompanying book. Among other falsehoods, 2,000 Mules included surveillance video that showed a Georgia man, Mark Andrews, placing ballots in a drop box near Atlanta. The accompanying commentary left viewers with no doubt that Andrews had committed a crime. And there were plenty of viewers. Eager for any “evidence” that the election was “stolen” from Trump, MAGA supporters flocked to see the film, which consequently made Salem’s former publishing division Regnery Publishing millions of dollars. It didn’t hurt that the former president called 2,000 Mules the “greatest and most impactful documentary of our time,” and slammed Fox News for not broadcasting it. You know that a piece of right-wing propaganda must be truly outrageous when Rupert Murdoch’s propaganda channel refuses to air it. In this case, Fox News made a wise decision because Andrews sued D’Souza, the Salem Media Group, and two individuals associated with the right-wing group “True the Vote” for defamation. The case is still pending. Perhaps in response to that lawsuit, the company has now announced its decision to pull the film and apologized to Andrews. “In publishing the film and the book, we relied on representations made to us by Dinesh D’Souza and True the Vote, Inc. (“TTV”) that the individuals depicted in the videos provided to us by TTV, including Mr. Andrews, illegally deposited ballots,” the company stated. “We have learned that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has cleared Mr. Andrews of illegal voting activity in connection with the event depicted in 2000 Mules.” Salem Media Group added that “it was never our intent that the publication of the 2000 Mules film and book would harm Mr. Andrews. We apologize for the hurt the inclusion of Mr. Andrews’ image in the movie, book, and promotional materials have caused Mr. Andrews and his family.” https://whowhatwhy.org/elections/2000-mules-duped-millions-of-fools/

Hitler even called his party socialists you stupid loser. It's the oldest con ever. "Hey, we're the good guys. Give me all your money and all the power and I'll do what's right!" Yeah, ok stupid. Run your id10t mouth because you don't have facts, as usual. Are you still trying to pretend that the DOJ/FBI weren't committing crimes? literally everyone on earth with an IQ over 30 knows now. You're the only holdout, sitting there believing in Wushin cowusion, the safe and effective vax, and the integrity of CNN, the Dems and the FBI. Id10t. Oh the floor was a square 😱. Only an id10t like you could be conned into believing that every square you see is also a swastika. Honk honk! 🤣 You're the stooge of stooges buddy. I just have to read your posts to know what the dumbest people on the planet have been sucked in by lately. FYI, here's what fascism looks like stupid: "We need to stack the supreme court and then we have all our bases covered!" (Only it sounded more like "We need to uhhh, do the thing so that the thing doesn't not do, uhh. Uhhh. The thing we wanted it to not do. Pause. Stacking an' stuff.")

They can stay home, spoil their ballot, write in 'none of the above' etc. Or show up at the convention an purge the Trumpoids. Think about it: can you name any other civilized country where a candidate so deep in shit would be supported by their own party? Here? The UK, Australia, New Zealand? Not a f^cking chance! Run a Kim Campbell or John Turner to spare themselves of the shame. Yank them from office just like Theresa May, Thatcher, Boris Johnson.

One needs to recognize that this is happening in a difficult social background. The political system is in a partisan deadlock. Both parties contributed to it, the increasing then extreme polarization leading to a system that is very much closed on itself and running for itself. Then, a part of the population, and relatively soon we will find out the measure of it, prefers to forget that a working democracy is an instrument of active and responsible citizens that needs to be checked and maintained at all times. They now want to see it as a magical want that has to satisfy all tantrums and caprices and is guaranteed to work no matter what one throws at it. This is a dangerous social and political environment. It is reminiscent of Rome's before the fall of democracy, and Germany before the fall to totalitarianism. This the political system in a partisan deadlock the path out of this conundrum is not at all clear. Still the Republicans have a choice to make here. Giving in and falling into insanity is not an obligation and not at all certainty for any individual who has the integrity, principles and can think for themselves. If you would not resist it openly, you don't have to contribute and participate in it. Participating in madness is a choice and it will have consequences. Everyone who contributed will be held to account: if not by the courts and justice, then by the history itself. Totalitarianism is already here. This is another sign of rising totalitarianism: "Attack Trump verdict or be exiled - a new test for Republicans". "Larry Hogan, a moderate Republican who is running for an open Senate seat in liberal-leaning Maryland, took to social media to urge all Americans to “respect the verdict and the legal process”. Within minutes, Chris LaCivita, a top official on Trump’s campaign, posted a crystal-clear reply to Mr Hogan: “You just ended your campaign.” The implication: if you’re not with us on this, you’re politically dead." (BBC) It is ugly. It is disgusting. It has no explanations or excuses. At first, it was about some lying buffoon. It could have ended there, in a community of thinking, active and responsible citizens of principle and integrity. Now the mob wants to take with it the party; and then, the country into its place of insanity. No: no one who can think and speak for themselves, their mind and conscience has to participate in this. History shows and tells us that very clearly. There are no explanations. There may not be path back. The future of a great democracy will be decided by thinking and responsible citizens; or by a mindless mob worshiping a lying Idol. The outcomes cannot be the same. You knew it: now find the will and courage to admit it and take it to act.

Do you think Poilievre will make significant changes to foreign aid or immigration?

Like with the covid hoax, this so called climate crisis is just another hoax and another name for covid #2. There is no real climate crisis going on anywhere in Canada. If so, where? It is all just another gigantic $160 billion tax dollars thrown in the wind hoax. The dictator in Ottawa is flying hundreds of private airplane trips all over Canada and the rest of the world every year. Tons of carbon being spewed into the atmosphere. No real worry or concern here about climate crisis. Wit this so called housing crisis that we supposedly have, can you imagine as to how many homes can be built with that $160 billion? There is no real housing shortage in Canada, but there is a massive immigration refugee explosion problem going on in Canada today. The dictator in Ottawa and his immigration minister sidekick is the problem. The imbecile of a minister wants to bring in approx. a million new immigrant/refugees into Canada every year. Now how is that for fighting climate change? It's all a climate crisis joke, folks. Stop eating that climate crisis crap nonsense because all of our dear leaders already knows that it all is just a farce. 😇

Quebec is what is wrong with Canada today. Without that blood sucking hell hole "country" in Canada, western Canadians would be rich as hell today. But thanks to french town, they have pretty much sucked western Canada dry of it's money and resources and wealth. O, how i long for a Canada without french town living in it. Go, quebec,go. Works for me! Bye-bye. 👎

Well seeing as how you need to make up and imagine the "lows" while your Glory Boy has set the ultimate "low" with 34 Guilty Counts of Felony Fraud and is so bloody stupid he's constantly bad mouthing the Judge that will sentence him for it in public... you wouldn't even know what low is. Repeating the demented ramblings of a fraudulent rapist boor as if they were someone elses fault is about as unethical and low as you can get.

I don't believe there is a bottom below the fantasies in your mind. Esp when you FAIL to acknowledge the extent of depth of Trump's ethical violations and pathological LIES. Do you even acknowledge the findings of liability for the FRAUDS of Trump U and the Trump Foundation? Those were long before the ones for EJ Carroll sexual assault and roller coaster property valuations. 🤮

Thanks for demonstrating your IGNORANCE AGAIN. Elevating the status of misdemeanor falsification does NOT REQUIRE a conviction of the aggravating circumstance, ONLY the jury to determine that the intent existed. Read the law dumbass. ^Looks like you found a "bankrupt" emoji. LMAO

Way to prove the point, halfwit. You know nothing about this trial outside of Trump's press tantrums. It wasn't even televised.🙄

I have a friend who's daughter is a huge lib...well....was. She worked as a councilor in a Chicago school. She can't take it any more. She's moving back to Texas. She put in her notice earlier in the school year. She was a Biden supporter, she's sitting this election out. Liberalism is fine and dandy when it is a theory. In practice, it is hell.

ROFMAO - well that's exactly how the think You are 100 percent correct. The dems are less like cultists and more like mafia these days. Break the laws, and make sure everyone in the 'family' gets a taste of the action as long as they're kissing the don's ring.

Yes, and they just weaponized the courts against their political opponents. They are bad people.

You are pure batshit. Do you masturbate to those sadistic fascist fantasies of yours?

Oh hi Traitor. Nice post. I'm glad you've learned to post things. Now try words Tweenkie.

The hilarious and shameless Trump gaslighting continues as convicted criminal Trump NOW absurdly claims he never said “lock her up” Now he’s soft on crime now that he’s been convicted of one Trump Denies Ever Saying ‘Lock Her Up.’ He Did… Several Times “Hillary Clinton — I didn’t say, ‘Lock her up,’ but the people would all say, ‘Lock her up, lock her up.’ OK. Then we won, and I said pretty openly, I’d say, ‘Alright, come on, just relax. Let’s go. We gotta make our country great.'” That is, of course, a lie. Trump not only beamed and nodded from the podium as his rally crowds chanted, “Lock her up,” he also said it himself, multiple times. He said it on Oct. 14, 2016, at a rally in Greensboro, N.C. As the crowd chanted the line, Trump said, “For what she’s done, they should lock her up.” In fact, he said it numerous times on the 2016 campaign trail, and he carried the line forward during his presidency. He even said it of Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in October 2020. When the crowd chanted, “Lock her up!” about Whitmer, Trump responded with, “Lock them all up.” And that same month, he told a crowd of the Bidens, “You should lock them up. Lock up the Bidens, lock up Hillary.” When a crowd chanted, “Lock her up!” about Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford, the professor who accused Supreme Court Justice Bret Kavanaugh of assaulting her when both were teens, Trump gave the crowd enthusiastic nods and a thumbs-up. As recently as last August, Trump hinted he might attempt to lock up his opponents. In an interview with Glenn Beck, the host asked, “Do you regret not ‘locking her up.’ And if you’re president again, will you lock people up?” “The answer is you have no choice, because they’re doing it to us,” Trump responded. Even with his conviction, it is unlikely that Trump himself will be “locked up” for any period of time. He will almost certainly appeal, and a prison sentence is unlikely for someone convicted of falsifying business records. But even though he faces a vanishingly small chance of time behind bars, Trump is all of a sudden painting himself as soft on crime. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-denies-ever-saying-lock-151844115.html

"Merchan's daughter has a job, and Ginni also has a job. So they're totally the same, right?" - cultist 🤡s To cultists, the fact that Merchan's daughter relies on his abuse of the legal system to make money is just a minor distraction, like when the FBI commits crimes, or when the Bidens get millions of dollars from the Chinese gov't. TBH, this is a lot like the China scam, where the Biden's work for China and they just find a way to get money back to Biden & Co. Merchan is doing the dirty work here, and Demonrats find ways to funnel money back to the family.

OMG this dumbass argument again. Your ignorance knows no limits. Here’s the TL;DR version for your ignorant ass: The NAZI party name predates Hitler, Hitler is not the party founder (who Hitler later had murdered after he took over the party), “National Socialism” is not the same thing as socialism, and names are meaningless, North Korea’s official name is “The Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea” do think that proves NK is a democratic republic? The Nazis jailed and murdered socialists by the thousands and publicly raged about socialism the way republicans rage about illegal immigrants. LMAO you are such a whacked out internet Konspiracy Kook Krackpot it’s hilarious Oh the lighting was red 😱. Only an id1iot like you could be conned into believing that every red light you see is also a swastika Honk honk! And The floor was not a square it was the same shape as the Othala Rune (see pic below) Even if it was pure coincidence, which is likely , if you’re going to scream nazi just because of red stage lights (did the Nazis even use red stage lights or did it just look spooky to you??) then it’s ridiculous that you would ignore the MULTIPLE Republican examples I mentioned most of which you couldn’t even acknowledge in your post Republicans have been saying that for decades and that’s exactly what they did. Remember all of the made up secret rules the Republican senators cited to first block appointments under Oba and then fast track them under Trump? “Oh secret rule nobody’s ever heard of: President Obama can’t appoint anyone to the USSC during his final year so we’re blocking his nomination …oh wait we forgot to mention there’s a secret exception to the secret rule that nobody’s ever heard of: so President Trump CAN appoint someone to the USSC during his final year..Expedited Approved!”

In fact the Clinton email nothingburger was more like Biden’s little box of unreturned documents and less like Trump’s deliberate criminal actions (and the Trump family also used their personal emails for White House business BTW) After a years-long FBI investigation, it was determined that Clinton's server did not contain any information or emails that were clearly marked classified.[1] News reports by NBC and CNN indicated that the emails discussed "innocuous" matters that were already public knowledge. In July, FBI director James Comey announced that the FBI investigation had concluded that Clinton had been "extremely careless" but recommended that no charges be filed because Clinton did not act with criminal intent, the historical standard for pursuing prosecution.[7] On June 14, 2018, the Department of Justice's Office of the Inspector General released its report on the FBI's and DOJ's handling of Clinton's investigation, finding no evidence of political bias and lending support for the decision to not prosecute Clinton.[14] A three-year State Department investigation concluded in September 2019 that 38 individuals were "culpable" in 91 instances of sending classified information that reached Clinton's email account, though it found "no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information".[15] Yet a September 2022 "Fact Checker" analysis by The Washington Post, which followed a tweet by Clinton claiming, "I had zero emails that were classified", also quotes the same 2019 State Department report as having noted, "None of the emails at issue in this review were marked as classified."[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy Westcan is the mor0n who compared Biden to nazis simply because he once spoke in front of red stage lights and his government has a military. I just showed him how Republicans have the support of ACTUAL Nazis, some of whom they retweet or hire to work for them and slip Nazi symbols into Republican communications.

Ok well, the Soviet is gone. But they did exactly the same thing. Stack the court and the media and the law. Trump is now a political prisoner.

You're so God-damned stupid, you believe your gratuitous OPINIONS mean something. Show us the EVIDENCE, IF you can.

I find your response repugnant. All this nonsense over where the guy filed a line on a form. Meanwhile you have a president getting BJs in his office, another guy targeting civilians with drones and dropping a pallet of cash to Iran, and the current guy who's alleged to have raped a woman as a Senator who now lives in exile THIS is why I consider America to be a banana republic

You are correct. ask anyone on the street whether they want Ukrainian or Palestinian immigrants,and 99% will say they prefer Ukrainians. I guess 99% of Canada are bigots, according to herbie.

Of course - otherwise nobody would swallow the lie

Well I had Nationalist in mind specifically since he is particularly obsessed with sadistic revenge fantasies Republican are some of the worst cancellers out there: Disney, Bud Light, Blackrock, Liz Cheney, every Republican who spoke against Trump, even DeSantis the Floridian canceller-in-chief got canceled when he tried to run against Trump. And with Republican laws targeting on abortion rights, LGBTQ, private businesses who allegedly have “woke” policies, Republicans are just as bad if not worse when it comes to interfering in other peoples private affairs and ways of life Republicans have been called Deplorable? Aww muffin! Republicans have made it their brand to call everyone else pedophiles, communists and terrorist supporters and then invent a bunch of batshit conspiracies and lies to go along with that name calling. The new populist far right has made premeditated displays of grotesque vulgarity its brand: screaming obscenities and the N word at politicians and public employees, even while holding their small children, chasing politicians and their families down the street when the see them in public, pelting them with gravel, spray painting their offices with words like “c-nt”. Often these extremists even film themselves doing so and then post it on social media to show off their vulgarity. People talk about left wing “virtue signalling” when lefties put on a big show to try and show off how progressive they are. The new right does the same thing except to show off how vulgar and depraved they are. The righties say they like the displays of vulgarity because it shows how genuine and authentic they are, and that they don’t care who they offend and they will never apologize for it because only cowards and wimps apologize. But of course that only applies to them Call them something as innocuous as “deplorable” and the shameless hypocrites complain they’ve been victimized in the most heinous and unspeakable way possible and demand an apology The Republicans’ manufactured victim narrative is no different than that of every other authoritarian movement in history. You can tell their motives are sinister because they claim this alleged victimization entitles them to victimize others in return, which is not what real victims do. Nobody says “I was raped therefore I should be allowed to rape someone else” or “I was robbed therefore I should be allowed to rob someone else”. Real opponents of dictatorship don’t say “just wait until I become dictator and get my revenge,” they say “just wait until we create a democracy and end dictatorship forever” but of course that’s not what Trump and his supporters are saying at all. What’s funny is that few people really doubt that Trump paid Stormy the hush money and then falsified business records to cover it up, they simply don’t care if he did or not and think he should be above the law based on his political stance. Typical authoritarian thuggery.

Because his accusations against her were made up and he had no evidence. Unlike Trump’s criminal case where the crime was real and proven in a court of law. Neither the prosecutor nor the judge nor the jury are under Biden’s control.

He said it - But didn't do it. They've done it. Remember that when it comes around kiddo

You're so God-damned stupid, you think that Joe Biden doesn't control state prosecutors and judges.

You sound pretty ignorant about your own religion. Yes well that is what comes through when you go around telling everyone you're better than them because they don't share your beliefs.

INTENT MATTERS. Joe returned the documents that were found immediately and Trump LIED ABOUT HIS and TRIED to HIDE THEM from the SEARCH. They gave Trump many months to return the documents he stole and he REFUSED claiming "THEY'RE MINE." 🤮 You guys have a terrible habit of believing FALSE EQUIVALENCES just cause that's what they tell you on FOS LIES.

There are degrees of shady. I'm pretty sure Biden has traded favors for donations and who knows what else during all his time in politics. They all do. I doubt Biden would take money to let Russia have Ukraine or China have Taiwan, though. I don't think Trump would put up much resistance if the cash pile was high enough.. The man would pimp his daughters out for enough money. But what it all boils down to for me is I trust the people around Biden to be competent, even if he is a doddering old man. he's still smart enough to take advice from the experts. Trump clearly is not. Everyone said eight years ago that even though Trump didn't know much he'd have great people around him. And he did, at first. But as soon as they started to disagree with 'his gut' he fired them all. Now the people around him are grifters, kooks, and sleazy yes-men.

That's what Trump said, and his stooges are echoing. A responsible citizen can admit the necessity and validity of the democratic legal system without agreeing to every of its decision. It does not mean that the system is rigged. It means that the verdict stands, and is accepted unless or until it is overturned on appeal. This is not what Trump's mob is hollering, not at all. They insist on their right to dictate which is the correct decision and what is "rigged", nothing less. If they didn't agree with any decision, it has to be "rigged". And that, should it come to pass would mean the end of independent justice as democratic institute, not so? We do not have justice anymore: the mob decides. How could one with working mind and conscience not see it?

I'm not claiming the system is 'rigged'. Only that Judges can be incompetent, can make mistakes when directing a trial, or can have conflicts of interest. That's why there's an appeals process. If you really want to know what a totalitarian justice system looks like, read Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago.

Standing up to fascist thugs of our time means "get worse". Just hear them out - they will spill it all and for free.

A trump impression of trump denying that people are donating to him. Gotcha LOLOLOL And besides you didn't use the word "bigly" once I'll put impressions down on the list of things you suck at. Along with thinking

well that's the thing. This judge has gone through incredible contortions to even allow this case in the first place, basically he's violated a number of legal principles to try and bring trump to trial, he ran for election based on going after trump, he gave instruction to the jury that is absolutely shocking, and he's disallowed everything that the defense asked for. After going that far is it really plausible to believe that he's not going to go all the way? The whole point of this was to take trump out for the election, the timing of every step of it has been coordinated based on that. I suppose it's possible he could order house arrest instead of jail time. They might try to argue it was a compromise position so that he could still at least attend his rallies by Zoomclaim it's proof that they didn't try and wipe them out entirely. But it's hard for me to believe that this guy isn't going to do something more than just a suspended sentence after going so far already. We'll see what the public backlash is, that may color things strongly

FOS LIES. LMAO MANY Western democracies have convicted their CORRUPT leaders of CRIMES. West is LYING that makes the US a "banana republic" or a "sick country."

Maybe I missed it in all my 50+ years of life, but I don't ever remember any of my fellow Canadians taking to the streets with shouts of Kill the Jews, shooting up Jewish schools, vandalizing Jewish businesses or Jewish children needing their community to escort them about for their safety. Lots here arguing that it does not come from Muslim/Islamic immigrants, due to the rareness of anti-Semitism in those cultures. Where did all this come from, do you suppose?

Maybe ask your wives if they want to holiday in Afghanistan or Pakistan or Iran? 😬

If you say something that's demonstrably true, which I did, that's not prejudiced. The truth just remains true. Their cultural norms are quite different from ours. If there's a culture that values individual freedoms and religious freedoms then Canadians will generally fit right in. Canadians aren't embarrassed to fit in there. If there's a culture where individual freedoms are trampled down and islamic religious bigotry is normal then Pakistanis and Afghan will generally fit right in. Pakistanis and Afghans aren't embarrassed to fit in there. The things that you parade around in Canada saying, which give you "moral standing" here, are anathema to Pakistanis and Afghans. They are repulsed by your tolerance of gays and Jews.

More reinforcements for the demonstrations and occupations. More Islamists to chant "Death to Canada" on our streets. This is the kind of school system they go through under Hamas. LOL. As if a bunch of rabid Jew haters from an Islamist hellhole are the same as Ukrainian Christians. You can sure tell you're a progressive fool on multiculturalism and immigration.

What is the point of your comments?? Is it illegal or immoral to be adopted? Canada is a land of immigrants. OK, what is Canada....to you?

I think he is proven that he is quite adept at selling his message especially to youth . He certainly doesn't act like it's a cakewalk, he puts in a ton of energy every day into selling his message. I don't think it's terribly hard to convince kids who are looking at the cost of moving away from home and feeding themselves and realizing that they are going to be in their mommy's basement till they're 50 on the idea that we need change

As it stands, 2000 Mules has proven, using reliable tracking info which was corroborated by video evidence from gov't time-stamped cameras, that in the swing states, illegal election activity resulted in the casting of enough fraudulent ballots to swing the election in favor of the Dems. People definitely should watch it and judge it for themselves.