eyeball Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 10 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I have seen this. She got what she asked for. It looks like she was pulling a U-turn and waved at ICE to go ahead. Then she either panicked or more likely felt a wave of fúck you instead of the automatic submit to my authoritah that's expected of Americans now. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
User Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 10 minutes ago, robosmith said: She asked for, and attempted to, LEAVE, LIAR To leave through an Officer... you are such a cowardly liar. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 8 hours ago, robosmith said: So you ONLY care about crime when it blocks Trump's Gestapo and believe that is a capital offense. 🤮 Show us the VIDEO of the woman attempting to ram ICE agents since YOU are claiming that happened. I'd also like to see this video. Trumps lapdog made the claim, I'm waiting to see the evidence. But nobody should be blocking enforcement officers from doing their jobs. Isn't that obstruction of justice? Illegals are getting arrested and deported and their enablers are becoming accessories to their crimes, so arrest them too. Looks like they tried to open her car door to arrest her, she resisted and tried to flee, so they shot her. They could have just taken the license plate and her description and arrested her later, but FAFO kinda applies here too. Moral of the story: don't illegally eff with people with guns, especially law enforcement. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
TreeBeard Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Isn't that obstruction of justice? Should that be an automatic death sentence meted out by field officers? Shouldn’t there be strict rules about using deadly force? Or are you ok with police being executioners? Edited January 8 by TreeBeard Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 40 minutes ago, eyeball said: It looks like she was pulling a U-turn and waved at ICE to go ahead. Then she either panicked or more likely felt a wave of fúck you instead of the automatic submit to my authoritah that's expected of Americans now. She was a paid agitator. She was getting arrested for blocking ICE. She panicked and drove right at an agent that shot in self defense. If she hadn't tried to run, she would have gotten a court date and, knowing MN, she would have gotten off. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
CdnFox Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 10 hours ago, Nationalist said: So apparently...ICE went out in Minneapolis Minnesota to arrest some illegals. A bunch of Libbies showed up to block their efforts...a crime in itself BTW... Some woman decided to get in her vehicle and ram the ICE agents. So an ICE agent shot her dead. It pains me some to have to say this but... Its about fcking time!!! Play stupid games, catch stupid bullets. An unfortunate event but seriously, what did they think was going to happen 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Moonlight Graham Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: Should that be an automatic death sentence meted out by field officers? Shouldn’t there be strict rules about using deadly force? Or are you ok with police being executioners? Well it was obstruction and then resisting arrest and attempting to flee the scene, with the officer that shot her possibly thinking the driver was trying to run into him. And I already argued they should probably have just tracked the license plate and tackled the fool at her house. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
robosmith Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: I'd also like to see this video. Trumps lapdog made the claim, I'm waiting to see the evidence. But nobody should be blocking enforcement officers from doing their jobs. Isn't that obstruction of justice? Illegals are getting arrested and deported and their enablers are becoming accessories to their crimes, so arrest them too. Looks like they tried to open her car door to arrest her, she resisted and tried to flee, so they shot her. They could have just taken the license plate and her description and arrested her later, but FAFO kinda applies here too. Moral of the story: don't illegally eff with people with guns, especially law enforcement. It is NOT legal to shoot anyone just for fleeing per the SCOTUS. She clearly wasn't blocking the road, either. Quote
Radiorum Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 What is wrong with you? How have you sunk so low that you would applaud the killing of a mother of a six-year-old child? Have you no decency? You need to look inside your hearts and discover how you got so twisted. You are the ones that would have marched people to the gas chambers. You make me sick. 37-year-old Renée Good was a legal observer of ICE. After a minor interaction, she tried to leave. Federal agents approached and illegally tried to enter her car. When she tried to drive away, they shot her in the face. The Trump regime immediately reacted with what they do best – lies – claiming she “weaponized” her vehicle and tried to “run over” law enforcement. Trump falsely claimed the officer was “violently, willfully, and viciously run over” and was “in the hospital.” All lies. The officer casually walked over to the car after the shooting, did nothing to help the dying woman, and left the scene two minutes later. A doctor there tried to help, but he had guns pointed at him and was warned not to. 1 1 Quote
robosmith Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, Radiorum said: What is wrong with you? How have you sunk so low that you would applaud the killing of a mother of a six-year-old child? Have you no decency? You need to look inside your hearts and discover how you got so twisted. You are the ones that would have marched people to the gas chambers. You make me sick. 37-year-old Renée Good was a legal observer of ICE. After a minor interaction, she tried to leave. Federal agents approached and illegally tried to enter her car. When she tried to drive away, they shot her in the face. The Trump regime immediately reacted with what they do best – lies – claiming she “weaponized” her vehicle and tried to “run over” law enforcement. Trump falsely claimed the officer was “violently, willfully, and viciously run over” and was “in the hospital.” All lies. The officer casually walked over to the car after the shooting, did nothing to help the dying woman, and left the scene two minutes later. A doctor there tried to help, but he had guns pointed at him and was warned not to. And it was clearly seen that her wheels were turned to the right and NOT head straight at the officer. He didn't even move from his spot as he was shooting her. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 15 minutes ago, robosmith said: She clearly wasn't blocking the road, either. So ICE just harasses random people doing 3-point turns then tries to arrest them? What was she doing then that got ICE mad? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
eyeball Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 25 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Well it was obstruction and then resisting arrest and attempting to flee the scene, with the officer that shot her possibly thinking the driver was trying to run into him. And I already argued they should probably have just tracked the license plate and tackled the fool at her house. Well you might also think by now that commanders holding pre-raid ICE briefings would caution the troops to be a little understanding in the face of a public that's scared shitless of being apprehended and shipped off without due process to some shit-hole developing world prison complex where human rights abuses, torture, rape and murder are everyday common occurences. But no, it looks like submit to my authoritah is drummed into their heads instead. Probably to a rousing Huzzah in response. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
paxamericana Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 Looks like bad choices were made. The driver ran over the police officer contrary to the early release camera angles. Her bumper made impact with the officer. This is assault with a deadly weapon and justification for deadly force. @eyeball 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 11 hours ago, Nationalist said: So apparently...ICE went out in Minneapolis Minnesota to arrest some illegals. A bunch of Libbies showed up to block their efforts...a crime in itself BTW... Some woman decided to get in her vehicle and ram the ICE agents. So an ICE agent shot her dead. It pains me some to have to say this but... Its about fcking time!!! She didn’t ram the vehicles Quote
eyeball Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Her bumper made impact with the officer. This is assault with a deadly weapon and justification for deadly force. @eyeball Before or after she was dead? It sure looks like she was turning into the traffic lane to get the fùck out of there ASAP...on reflex and from a sense of self-preservation. 2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: She didn’t ram the vehicles She literally waved them past... Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
BeaverFever Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: commanders holding pre-raid ICE briefings would caution the troops to be a little understanding 😅😅 REGULAR US cops aren’t even “understanding” and these ICE agents are zealots on steroids. “Understanding” = terrorist sympathizer in their worldview. In America police shootings like this happen all the time: driver tries to drive away so cop shoots them point blank in the head through the driver’s window even though they’re not in the path of the vehicle. The cop is probably not thinking “I need to shoot to save my life” more like “don’t let them get away”. But the cop always gets off in these situations, the Americans set the bar for guilt very high when it comes to police officers accused of wrongdoing and the benefit of the doubt they give him is enormous. It’s almost impossible to convict a police officer for any serious misconduct the stars really have to be perfectly aligned. They get away with a lot worse than this. Quote
Deluge Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 10 hours ago, robosmith said: So you ONLY care about crime when it blocks Trump's Gestapo and believe that is a capital offense. 🤮 Show us the VIDEO of the woman attempting to ram ICE agents since YOU are claiming that happened. There is no "Trump's Gestapo". That's just something you woke liars made up. Woke cultists have also been running interference at hotels where agents had reservations: Quote
CdnFox Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: What is wrong with you? How have you sunk so low that you would applaud the killing of a mother of a six-year-old child? If she's deliberately trying to kill a cop? Yeah. Are you seriously advocating police murder now? Exactly how many police officers would you say a mother of a 6 year old should be allowed to kill before we say it's a bad thing? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: So ICE just harasses random people doing 3-point turns then tries to arrest them? What was she doing then that got ICE mad? She was not doing a 3-point turn... she was purposefully blocking their path and then tried to speed away through an ICE officer as they went to deal with her. 1 hour ago, robosmith said: It is NOT legal to shoot anyone just for fleeing per the SCOTUS. She clearly wasn't blocking the road, either. She was not shot just for fleeing. She was clearly blocking the road. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 2 hours ago, robosmith said: It is NOT legal to shoot anyone just for fleeing per the SCOTUS. She clearly wasn't blocking the road, either. Not true....it is legal to shoot a fleeing felon for officer or public safety, to wit: Quote Under the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, a police officer may use deadly force to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect only if the officer has a good-faith belief that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others. Tennessee v. Garner | 471 U.S. 1 (1985) Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CdnFox Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 I've had a chance to watch the video from two angles now, I have to say this looks pretty clear-cut to me. An officer is reaching into the vehicle another officer is standing directly in front of the vehicle. She accelerates fairly quickly and is moving directly at the officer in front of her and partially dragging the officer who was reaching through the window although he breaks off but I'm sure the officer in front was thinking his buddy was in trouble and he was about to get hit. The car barely misses that officer who fires and moves to the side with litearlly what appears to be inches between him and the vehicle, in this video it almost looks like the vehicle brushes him. Later in that broadcast you can another angle and clearly see that the officer still had his arms stuck in the vehicle and the officer who fired was directly in front as it accelerated when the first shot was fired. It is 100 percent believable that the officer who fired believed both himself and his fellow officer was at risk and the woman intended to injure or kill and that may very well have been her intent until she was struck with the first bullet. If the shooting officer had not moved to the side he would have been hit by the car. This isn't even close, this is 'officer was in danger and also saw another officer in danger and fired' You CANNOT drive away with an officer still reaching into your car, you CANNOT drive directly towards another officer in front of you and NOT expect to be shot. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 I see now that there's an update saying the officer WAS hit by the vehicle and suffered minor injuries and was released from hospital. so, maybe she panicked and didn't mean to hit him, maybe she tried to go around him and just misjudged or maybe she thought he'd dive out of the way and not fire, but you can't blame a cop for shooting if you drive a vehicle at him. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 8 hours ago, robosmith said: She asked for, and attempted to, LEAVE, LIAR You're an lDIOT because IGNORANT ^ad hominem is all you got. She hit the officer with her car and paid the price. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 5 hours ago, BeaverFever said: She didn’t ram the vehicles Did I say she was ramming vehicles? You Tweenkies just cant help but lie, can you. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 Here's the bottom line. This woman had been harassing the ICE cops and impeding their progress. That's a crime. She then refused to exit her vehicle when so ordered by federal cops. That too is a crime. She then tried to escape and hit a federal cop. That too is a crime...and with a deadly weapon too. The federal cop fired in defense as per his training. Case closed. The moral: The kid gloves are off Libbies. You still wanna assault and attack federal cops? 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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