bush_cheney2004 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: so, maybe she panicked and didn't mean to hit him, maybe she tried to go around him and just misjudged or maybe she thought he'd dive out of the way and not fire, but you can't blame a cop for shooting if you drive a vehicle at him. Yes, and barring any further substantiated facts to the contrary, this women died for nothing after getting caught up in the anti-ICE hype and mania. The ICE legal observer organization training specifically warns not to block ICE operations with vehicles or obstruct officers. But in death, she will serve as the martyr for like minded folks and the anarchists. Senseless and unnecessary event...totally preventable. 2 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yes, and barring any further substantiated facts to the contrary, this women died for nothing after getting caught up in the anti-ICE hype and mania. The ICE legal observer organization training specifically warns not to block ICE operations with vehicles or obstruct officers. But in death, she will serve as the martyr for like minded folks and the anarchists. Senseless and unnecessary event...totally preventable. I completely agree. But I fear a few more shootings will happen before these insane Tweenkies get the message. I hope im wrong but... Edited January 8 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 ....... arguably there is some parallel to Ashli Babbitt. Of course Ashli was a Trump supporter. ..........martyr Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 9 hours ago, robosmith said: She asked for, and attempted to, LEAVE, LIAR No. She tried to evade arrest and injured an officer in the process. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 (edited) Brandon wins a very dubious election and actually invites illegals to come to America. 10+ million take him up on the offer. The southern border is swamped and all are ushered in. Cities fill up with illegals. Hotels filled...crime shoots up...Americans get fed up. Trump is elected to clean up the mess left by Brandon and the Dumbocrats. Libbies actually fight with federal officers in attempts to protect all the illegals. Federal officers put up with the assaults. Eventually...the federal officers have had enough of the assaults. A woman thinks she can still assault federal officers and pays the ultimate price. A rational person would stand down and just ignore the federal officers. We'll see how these insane Libbies react. Im betting on "poorly". Edited January 8 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Barquentine Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 16 hours ago, Nationalist said: Especially when that obstruction puts federal officers in danger. Except we can see the videos. She was letting ICE vehicles through - she waved 2 vehicles through, which they did, no problem. But the third car decided to play "Cops 'n' Perps" with her and drew their guns. One untrained id!ot stood in fron of her car with his gun drawn. That action is against every police organization's protocol. She turned away to go. She did not ram anyone. That was murder. Congrats to Trump: he's got American para-military shooting innocent Americans. MAGA = Make Americans Gestapo Again ! 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Except we can see the videos. She was letting ICE vehicles through - she waved 2 vehicles through, which they did, no problem. But the third car decided to play "Cops 'n' Perps" with her and drew their guns. One untrained id!ot stood in fron of her car with his gun drawn. That action is against every police organization's protocol. She turned away to go. She did not ram anyone. That was murder. Congrats to Trump: he's got American para-military shooting innocent Americans. MAGA = Make Americans Gestapo Again ! Tweenkie-Poo...I've seen the vids. She hit the one cop. Go lie somewhere else. Or better yet...go drive your vehicle at a federal agent. Let me know how that turns out for ya. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 ....... arguably there is some parallel to Ashli Babbitt. Of course Ashli was a Trump supporter. ..........martyr 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 28 minutes ago, Barquentine said: One untrained id!ot stood in fron of her car with his gun drawn. That action is against every police organization's protocol. She turned away to go. She did not ram anyone. You need to watch the video. The guy was not in front of the car. He was to the side. She backed up and aimed the car at him. She then hit and hospitalized (for a short time) him. If she had just put the car in park and gotten out, the worst that would have happened is defending herself in court. But she chose to run and her actions put an officer in danger. Here is what she was doing, according to people that claim to know: Quote The Minneapolis City Council said in a statement to NPR that Good "was out caring for her neighbors" when the confrontation happened. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/07/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting/88073771007/ Translation: she was out obstructing ICE. 2 minutes ago, John Stone said: ....... arguably there is some parallel to Ashli Babbitt. Of course Ashli was a Trump supporter. ..........martyr Some people say that. But she crawled through a window. That was the perimeter that that officer chose as the final barrier. He was justified. She was stupid. 2 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Stone Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 (edited) 10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: You need to watch the video. The guy was not in front of the car. He was to the side. She backed up and aimed the car at him. She then hit and hospitalized (for a short time) him. If she had just put the car in park and gotten out, the worst that would have happened is defending herself in court. But she chose to run and her actions put an officer in danger. Here is what she was doing, according to people that claim to know: Translation: she was out obstructing ICE. Some people say that. But she crawled through a window. That was the perimeter that that officer chose as the final barrier. He was justified. She was stupid. 10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: You need to watch the video. The guy was not in front of the car. He was to the side. She backed up and aimed the car at him. She then hit and hospitalized (for a short time) him. If she had just put the car in park and gotten out, the worst that would have happened is defending herself in court. But she chose to run and her actions put an officer in danger. Here is what she was doing, according to people that claim to know: Translation: she was out obstructing ICE. Some people say that. But she crawled through a window. That was the perimeter that that officer chose as the final barrier. He was justified. She was stupid. Some would argue that they were both stupid? They both played the bluff game and were called on it. Edited January 8 by John Stone Quote
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 So where does this go now? I think ICE will double-up on efforts and numbers. They will send an armed escort in a paddywagon. Any who obstruct federal officers in discharging their duty, will be arrested, tossed in the paddywagon and caged. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So where does this go now? I think ICE will double-up on efforts and numbers. They will send an armed escort in a paddywagon. Any who obstruct federal officers in discharging their duty, will be arrested, tossed in the paddywagon and caged. Hopefully the blue hairs pull back. This left wing violence has to stop. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
West Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 Wow democrats are all about defending deranged fools who try to run over law enforcement with their vehicle 1 Quote
West Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 9 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Should that be an automatic death sentence meted out by field officers? Shouldn’t there be strict rules about using deadly force? Or are you ok with police being executioners? That would be scary if thats actually what happened. But it wasn't... the woman tried to execute an ICE agent most likely radicalized by left wing rhetoric about law enforcement Quote
John Stone Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So where does this go now? I think ICE will double-up on efforts and numbers. They will send an armed escort in a paddywagon. Any who obstruct federal officers in discharging their duty, will be arrested, tossed in the paddywagon and caged. The 2nd Amendment was ratified to ensure the right to keep and bear arms, primarily to provide a check against a tyrannical government. Both the black and white cats are leaning towards this argument - basically justifying violence. Whatever the outcome, let's hope the military remains apolitical - them platforms carry some fun toys? Something like 500 million privately owned firearms in the U.S. and generally the owners are very proficient. Quote
CDN1 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Stone said: ....... arguably there is some parallel to Ashli Babbitt. Of course Ashli was a Trump supporter. ..........martyr And Democrats celebrated & mocked her death for years. There's really no room for either side to be calling out hypocrisy here. This shooting will be ruled justified. BLM already tried a similar case in 2023 with Ta'Kiya Young and that officer was cleared. Democrats' rhetoric got this stupid woman killed and they won't learn anything from it. Edited January 8 by CDN1 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 21 minutes ago, John Stone said: The 2nd Amendment was ratified to ensure the right to keep and bear arms, primarily to provide a check against a tyrannical government. Both the black and white cats are leaning towards this argument - basically justifying violence. Whatever the outcome, let's hope the military remains apolitical - them platforms carry some fun toys? Something like 500 million privately owned firearms in the U.S. and generally the owners are very proficient. You think an armed public will go to war with the feds? You realize over half the nation would respond in kind...right? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You think an armed public will go to war with the feds? You realize over half the nation would respond in kind...right? .............. arguably it wouldn't be like that ........... more quasi random organized acts at (National) destabilization ........ actually NOEM put her finger on it quoting 'domestic terrorism'. As far as the Military goes I'm sure you understand that it is a cross section of domestic society. .... although touted as apolitical - follow the Constitution, yada ............ it only takes one (foreign national in particular) behind the controls of a specific platform to make J6 look like a garden party in comparison. I'd also add that today so-called suicide drones will become not only the weapon of choice on the battlefield - AI will make them completely unguided - immune to jamming. Home grown (domestic) terrorism is a viable threat - and likely far more so going forward. Winter is coming. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, John Stone said: .............. arguably it wouldn't be like that ........... more quasi random organized acts at (National) destabilization ........ actually NOEM put her finger on it quoting 'domestic terrorism'. As far as the Military goes I'm sure you understand that it is a cross section of domestic society. .... although touted as apolitical - follow the Constitution, yada ............ it only takes one (foreign national in particular) behind the controls of a specific platform to make J6 look like a garden party in comparison. I'd also add that today so-called suicide drones will become not only the weapon of choice on the battlefield - AI will make them completely unguided - immune to jamming. Home grown (domestic) terrorism is a viable threat - and likely far more so going forward. Winter is coming. Let it come. Im watching more clashing between ICE and Tweenkies. One guy arrested by ICE already. I'd always thought the police were there to protect the citizens and maintain order. Where the fck are the Minneapolis police? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 Just now, Nationalist said: Let it come. Im watching more clashing between ICE and Tweenkies. One guy arrested by ICE already. I'd always thought the police were there to protect the citizens and maintain order. Where the fck are the Minneapolis police? Let it come - indeed - but in someone else backyard. The cops are not apolitical - not to mention the fact they're not anonymous by any means. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 6 minutes ago, John Stone said: Let it come - indeed - but in someone else backyard. The cops are not apolitical - not to mention the fact they're not anonymous by any means. Minneapolis is your home? I was there years ago on business. If it's your home...you have my sympathy. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
blackbird Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 (edited) 21 hours ago, Nationalist said: Some woman decided to get in her vehicle and ram the ICE agents. So an ICE agent shot her dead. Hey, we haven't seen the evidence that shows some agents were actually standing directly in front of her vehicle and in imminent danger of being hit when it started moving. So where's the evidence that supports your claim it was necessary to shot her? There appeared to be a bullet hole through the corner of the windshield on the edge of the driver's side of the glass which killed the driver. That shot may have originated from just off the front side of the vehicle and not from directly in the path of the vehicle. It raises the question, was the shooter actually in danger of being hit by the vehicle or did he shot just because she was starting to drive? Edited January 8 by blackbird Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Did I say she was ramming vehicles? You Tweenkies just cant help but lie, can you. What else do you “ram”? She didn’t “ram” anyone or anything so nce again the MAGA cultists are exposed as the liar. Falsely accusing others of lying isn one of MAGA’s favourite lies. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 12 minutes ago, blackbird said: Hey, we haven't seen the evidence that shows some agents were actually standing directly in front of her vehicle and in imminent danger of being hit when it started moving. So where's the evidence that supports your claim it was necessary to shot her? There appeared to be a bullet hole through the corner of the windshield on the edge of the driver's side of the glass which killed the driver. That shot may have originated from just off the front side of the vehicle and not from directly in the path of the vehicle. It raises the question, was the shooter actually in danger of being hit by the vehicle or did he shot just because she was starting to drive? Its been confirmed that the car hit the officer. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 10 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: What else do you “ram”? She didn’t “ram” anyone or anything so nce again the MAGA cultists are exposed as the liar. Falsely accusing others of lying isn one of MAGA’s favourite lies. See this link. https://www.aol.com/news/ice-agent-shot-woman-minneapolis-205645313.html There's even a picture of the car hitting the cop. Enjoy that...liar. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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