Nationalist Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Barquentine said: Quite possible. But even if it's an unfulfilled promise, it's a brilliant political move. And you say he's not a politician? So if the carney promises pipelines and refuses to deliver...that's a "good lie"? If there was ever any doubt, you've confirmed that you Libbies dont care one iota about the public nor the truth. Only power and destruction of Canada. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 My predictions: 1. The carney will become an even bigger global joke and Canadian embarrassment. 2. The USA will setup a puppet government in Venezuela and drop in on Castro. 3. China will annex Taiwan. 4. Russia will be given the Russian parts of Ukraine including Odessa in return for peace. 5. The 3 powers, USA, China and Russia, will move towards a global sphere of influence setup. 6. Western Europe will be exposed as a paper tiger and Central Europe will renew trade with Russia. 7. Nordstream will begin pumping again. 8. The EU will fail as the European electorate will tear up the agreements. 9. European nations will step-up efforts to deport Muslims. 10. NATO falls apart as irrelevant. And in the bonus round... 11. The US economy will strengthen visibly and Libbies will have to double-up on Depends usage. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: Quite possible. But even if it's an unfulfilled promise, it's a brilliant political move. And you say he's not a politician? It's not a brilliant political move in the slightest. Conning people and then not delivering is not a good look. It buys him time right now but already the polls and pollsters are quite clear the people are getting fed up with his inaction. And it's just been a year If he winds up going to the polls is April or May, which is a very real possibility if he can't get another 2 floor crossers, he may very well have a tough time holding on to his minority. At the very least it'll be worse. And he'll be extremely vunerable due to a very long list of broken promises where things simply aren't happening, Moving forward it won't be very long before alberta realizes he's been playing them. To be honest i think smith knows and is setting him up for this. When albertans figure it out all the 'western alienation' sentiment is going to come back 10 fold. Just in time for the proposed referendum. You have to be a little more subtle in your lies and spread them out over a little longer time. "Hey we can just lie to everyone" is not political brilliance. 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 7 hours ago, blackbird said: Why would a pipeline or oil company jump in to build a pipeline now when the Carney government still has all the anti-pipeline anti-energy laws on the books? Because Carney got together with oil execs behind closed doors and told them not to worry about the anti-pipeline stuff. That's the fiction now. I suppose it would be a little gauche for the oil companies to come out too early but it might happen sooner than you think. Especially if there's subsidies in the works...and there always are. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: Because Carney got together with oil execs behind closed doors and told them not to worry about the anti-pipeline stuff. And they have quite publicly told him that they are not buying his shit and that they are investing elsewhere. Even our own Canadian companies are now investing in pipelines in the states and not in Canada and have no intention to do so. And Carney knew that. He doesn't want any pipelines built, he's deliberately poison to the well so that he can pretend that he's pro pipeline to Alberta while secretly saying to his environmentally religious caucus Not to worry because none will be built. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: And they have quite publicly told him that they are not buying his shit and that they are investing elsewhere. Even our own Canadian companies are now investing in pipelines in the states and not in Canada and have no intention to do so. And Carney knew that. He doesn't want any pipelines built, he's deliberately poison to the well so that he can pretend that he's pro pipeline to Alberta while secretly saying to his environmentally religious caucus Not to worry because none will be built. Well that's a relief. Good to know. I've seen first hand how badly prepared we are for oil spills on the coast. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
WestCanMan Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 My prediction: Left4rd cultists continue to find Carney sexy and glorious no matter how much worse things get. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Goddess Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 27 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: My prediction: Left4rd cultists continue to find Carney sexy and glorious no matter how much worse things get. They will praise him for the higher quality of dumpster food we receive. 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
herbie Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 17 hours ago, Army Guy said: Venezuela oil industry is in shambles, it's infra structure is falling apart, and will never be able to produce as much as Alberta does with out some major investments and years of repairs.... and so it will remain forever? even after being 'takrn' by the USA.... don't think past tomorrow morning Quote
John Stone Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, herbie said: and so it will remain forever? even after being 'takrn' by the USA.... don't think past tomorrow morning ............. I'd say Alberta has something that Venezuela will never have .......... political stability............. years away (if ever) of demonstrating it. What industry (any) would invest in a country with such an unproven political track record. Job 1 for Venezuela is ridding itself of the corruption that has put it in the position it finds itself ......... the problem of course is corruption is likely the only enticement for those countries, companies willing TO investment. Quote
TreeBeard Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 I’m predicting a PP landslide of support at his convention but an ouster by his MPs in 2026 after another floor crossing that gives the Libs a majority in parliament. He will go down fighting agains his own MPs ala Trudeau PP will be nothing but a distant memory come 2027. Quote
ironstone Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 19 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: I’m predicting a PP landslide of support at his convention but an ouster by his MPs in 2026 after another floor crossing that gives the Libs a majority in parliament. He will go down fighting agains his own MPs ala Trudeau PP will be nothing but a distant memory come 2027. I predict Canada's economy will be mired in mediocrity as long as the current government remains in power. I also predict Mark Carney will be pulling in hundreds of millions of dollars thanks to all of his Brookfield-oriented policies. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Army Guy Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 55 minutes ago, herbie said: and so it will remain forever? even after being 'takrn' by the USA.... don't think past tomorrow morning Experts have already said it could take up to 10 years and bils in investment for Venezuela oil to reach current Alberta capacities....So the threat is not today, or tomorrow, it is a decade away.. Unless you know something we don't ....you could enlighten all of us with your wisdom... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 18 hours ago, TreeBeard said: I don’t think this is a realistic assessment. Then you should do some research, EBY has no say over national projects, neither do the Natives..I guess we will have to wait until the conservatives get in power....or EBY falls which is the best option... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 4 hours ago, eyeball said: Well that's a relief. Good to know. I've seen first hand how badly prepared we are for oil spills on the coast. No you haven't You're just trying to make it sound like it's a good thing that Carney your hero is once again breaking his word. The fact is if we don't improve our economy pretty quick there's going to be a hell of a lot more suffering than could possibly happen from an oil spill. Pipelines was supposed to be a key component with that. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
TreeBeard Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 54 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Experts have already said it could take up to 10 years and bils in investment for Venezuela oil to reach current Alberta capacities....So the threat is not today, or tomorrow, it is a decade away.. Unless you know something we don't ....you could enlighten all of us with your wisdom... Why did Canadian energy stocks take a sharp drop today? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/bakx-wti-venezuela-tsx-9.7033902 It’s probably a bit of a knee jerk reaction in the market, but it’s not for no reason…. Quote
TreeBeard Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 57 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Then you should do some research, EBY has no say over national projects, neither do the Natives..I guess we will have to wait until the conservatives get in power....or EBY falls which is the best option... No one said anything about a veto. But, realistically no one is going to build a pipeline through areas that don’t want it. The Libs will see that this will gain them zero seats in Alberta and cost them 3 seats in BC. That math alone will be enough to, at the very least, put the pipeline in a less politically sensitive area. Quote
eyeball Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: No you haven't Oh yes I have. I was here when the Nestucca's oil washed ashore. I saw the poobahs wring their hands in despair and indecision. For ten days they ignored local suggestions. They finally said go just as a storm force SW wind pushing 5 m seas hit the coast. 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: The fact is if we don't improve our economy pretty quick there's going to be a hell of a lot more suffering than could possibly happen from an oil spill. Pipelines was supposed to be a key component with that. Yes, preventing pipelines to the coast is the best way to prevent more spills here. Go base your economic improvement on a pipeline going thru Quebec instead. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 31 minutes ago, eyeball said: Oh yes I have. I was here when the Nestucca's oil washed ashore. Bullshit. Sounds like the kind of thing you'd make up just like you make up everything else. And everyone is aware that after that spill there were massive improvements to transport laws and spill response. Quote Yes, preventing pipelines to the coast is the best way to prevent more spills here. Go base your economic improvement on a pipeline going thru Quebec instead. Typical NIMBY. And the fact is we should be doing both. At the end of the day the only way for you to get your free medical and all the other perks you want and not let people starve in the streets is to borrow from our children's future. Which you obviously don't care about What a guy. Pro terrorist, thinks stalin was too right wing, anti elections and democracy, Votes for corrupt governments and now happy to destroy a future generation as long as he gets his perks Remind me again why it's us capitalists that are bad people? 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Sounds like the kind of thing you'd make up just like you make up everything else. To trigger these silly rants of yours? Whatever you say Chief. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 26 minutes ago, eyeball said: To trigger these silly rants of yours? Whatever you say Chief. No to cover your own lies and lack of intellect. It's kind of what you do. The problem is you lie so much that if you ever tell the truth nobody will ever be able to tell 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted January 6 Author Report Posted January 6 20 hours ago, CdnFox said: It's not a brilliant political move in the slightest. Sound like you're jealous that Carney is proving to be a far better politician PeePee. I think there may eventually be a new pipeline. And signing the MOU with Danielle Smith makes her a willing partner with the Feds and blunts separation talk. 20 hours ago, CdnFox said: the polls and pollsters are quite clear the people are getting fed up with his inaction. Check 338. 20 hours ago, CdnFox said: If he winds up going to the polls is April or May, which is a very real possibility Not gonna happen. Andrew Scheer will hide behind the curtains again. Quote
I am Groot Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 (edited) On 1/4/2026 at 3:45 PM, herbie said: Or is it the lack of market economics that thinks maybe the people of Canada should pay for a pipeline to guarantee the oil companies their profits? Why don't you just come out and admit it? You don't want us to build pipelines to the coast because that would not be in the economic interests of the United States of America. Edited January 6 by I am Groot 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 On 1/4/2026 at 10:45 PM, Army Guy said: News flash Feds don't need EBY's support to build what ever they want....BC does not hold a veto, neither does the Natives.....If the feds wanted a pipeline there would be one.... This is technically correct, but given the political cowardice of the federal liberals, they would never push through a pipeline without buy-in from everyone else. In fact, Carney's cowardice is very typical of someone who was a senior executive in the public service, where cowardice is rewarded with promotion. In the public service, you never make a decision on your own. You want lots of buy-in from everyone else so that if anything goes wrong, you can step back and put the blame on others. If it works, then you can step forward and brag about it being your doing. This is how the public service works. 1 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Sound like you're jealous that Carney is proving to be a far better politician PeePee. I So you think lying to people is the thing to admire in a politician? Are you also a fan of Donald Trump? Edited January 6 by I am Groot 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
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