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What anyone was or dud isn't relative to conversation on what Trump is or is doing now.

Today's so called conservatives are more concerned about what was before than what is now and what's coming.

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23 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And Trump is implying MTG is a commie. 🤣

That's the way the right wing crumbles....except its more like an exploding whale.

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Who cares about MTG?  Epstein was literally texting democrats during hearings in 2019.

7 minutes ago, herbie said:

What anyone was or dud isn't relative to conversation on what Trump is or is doing now.

Today's so called conservatives are more concerned about what was before than what is now and what's coming.

I’m for everything being released.  Why do you think Democrats didn’t care at all until about a month ago?  Why do you think democrats didn’t try at all to have anything released during the Biden administration?

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44 minutes ago, Shady said:

Epstein was literally texting democrats during hearings in 2019.

Sure, sounds like Epstein was literally texting and e-mailing everyone.

I would imagine there's been lots of speculation and debate between powerful individuals from both parties regarding their connections to Epstein's activities and who knew what about them....never mind who participated in them.

I wonder how many more messages there are out there that start off with: 'I know who you are and saw what you did'?

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I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Do Bill Clinton forced Trump to give him a bj in a creepy power move like diddy used to do (and maybe still does in prison)? That’s disgusting!

Wow. Amazing that you would admit in public that this is what you sit around thinking about. 

1 hour ago, herbie said:

What anyone was or dud isn't relative to conversation on what Trump is or is doing now.

Today's so called conservatives are more concerned about what was before than what is now and what's coming.

Conservatives did not start this thread... 

 

 

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Sure, sounds like Epstein was literally texting and e-mailing everyone.

I would imagine there's been lots of speculation and debate between powerful individuals from both parties regarding their connections to Epstein's activities and who knew what about them....never mind who participated in them.

I wonder how many more messages there are out there that start off with: 'I know who you are and saw what you did'?

Yes he was very well connected.  My personal opinion is that he was Israeli intelligence.

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5 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Trump supporter in the rightwing media says Epstein wasn’t a pedo.  15 year olds are “barely legal”.  That’s a relief to conservatives, eh?  Now they can feel better about their president’s penchant for young teens girls.

 

 

 

Oh look who's making up lies again to try and justify his own petty hatred and bigotry :) 

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure, sounds like Epstein was literally texting and e-mailing everyone.

This is probably accurate

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I would imagine there's been lots of speculation and debate between powerful individuals from both parties regarding their connections to Epstein's activities and who knew what about them....never mind who participated in them.

That is probably less accurate. It was probably begging various contacts for support or money or both

 

 

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What’s hilarious is that Trump announces his sham investigation into Democrats’ alleged Epstein ties ONLY after emails come out indicating Trump knew about Epstein’s girls and had been around them. It’s such a desperate and transparent attempt at distraction and the fact that he only wants to investigate democrats not others in Epstein’s orbit  is pathetic. There has never been a more corrupt regime so willing to abuse power than this president. 

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1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

What’s hilarious is that Trump announces his sham investigation into Democrats’ alleged Epstein ties ONLY after emails come out indicating Trump knew about Epstein’s girls and had been around them. It’s such a desperate and transparent attempt at distraction and the fact that he only wants to investigate democrats not others in Epstein’s orbit  is pathetic. There has never been a more corrupt regime so willing to abuse power than this president. 

WHAAA!

You tweenkie-ass little biatches thought you could destroy Trump with frivolous law suits. You were dead wrong. 

Now you think you can destroy Trump by association with Epstein. Unfortunately, all the evidence shows that Trump was not interested in Epstein's haram.

Don't you insane limp noodles have any self respect? 

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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12 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Trump supporter in the rightwing media says Epstein wasn’t a pedo.  15 year olds are “barely legal”.  That’s a relief to conservatives, eh?  Now they can feel better about their president’s penchant for young teens girls.

15 was illegal in the US. It WAS, however, legal in Canada until Harper changed the law. The age of consent was 14 here up until then. So pretty much anything Epstein might have done was legal here. I don't believe we had any laws about 'child exploitation' or the like back then either.

12 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

And this comes as a HUGE relief for Catholics.  Now they can claim their priests weren’t pedophiles, they were just gay.  

I've long claimed that. Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder characterized by sexual attraction to pre-pubescent kids. A pedophile would have had ZERO interest in the likes of Virginia Giuffre. And yes, the majority of young people molested by priests were older boys. 

I've also seen statistics that the degree of child molesting in the Catholic Church was no worse than society at large. That's faint praise, at best, but the cliche of priests salivating over young boys was never remotely true.

 

"A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton

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12 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Do Bill Clinton forced Trump to give him a bj in a creepy power move like diddy used to do (and maybe still does in prison)? That’s disgusting!

You are a very strange person.

"A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton

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12 hours ago, eyeball said:

Thank goodness for all the whack-a-doodles.  Maybe there'll still be a chance to turn things around...the Western world's experiment with hard-boiled right-wing conservatism seems to be running its course and billions of humans will pause to consider - to the extent the right wing will be banished to left field for decades.

That's not going to happen as long as the Left is full of crazed identitarian fruitloops obsessed with children changing gender and demanding black people take over the world because they're so much more moral than whites.

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3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

WHAAA!

You tweenkie-ass little biatches thought you could destroy Trump with frivolous law suits. You were dead wrong. 

Now you think you can destroy Trump by association with Epstein. Unfortunately, all the evidence shows that Trump was not interested in Epstein's haram.

Don't you insane limp noodles have any self respect? 

The evidence is starting to confirm the obvious, which is Trump was at least aware of Epstein’s harem and saw the girls. Which makes sense given that he was one of Epstein’s closest friends for nearly 2 decades 

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Whats truly disgusting about this whole thing, you had the Democrats manipulating the files to make Trump look bad in order to attack him and what a piece of shit Michael Wolff is.

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1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

The evidence is starting to confirm the obvious, which is Trump was at least aware of Epstein’s harem and saw the girls. Which makes sense given that he was one of Epstein’s closest friends for nearly 2 decades 

It is not obvious. It is chickenshit.

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Conservatives, when faced with an actual pedophile ring rather than a made up one in a pizza shop, try and change the definition of pedophile so their hero doesn’t look so bad.   Or make the crazy claim that child sex trafficking would have been legal if they did it in Canada.  
 

You people really are just plain weird. 

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I've also seen statistics that the degree of child molesting in the Catholic Church was no worse than society at large.

I’ll have to remember that when someone says religion is a source of morality.  

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7 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

What’s hilarious is that Trump announces his sham investigation into Democrats’ alleged Epstein ties ONLY after emails come out indicating Trump knew about Epstein’s girls and had been around them. It’s such a desperate and transparent attempt at distraction and the fact that he only wants to investigate democrats not others in Epstein’s orbit  is pathetic. There has never been a more corrupt regime so willing to abuse power than this president. 

So why didn't Biden do anything for the last 4 years?

Once again, you start with your absurd, extreme, and false partisan bias and work backwards from there, ignoring all logic, facts, and reason. 

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

The evidence is starting to confirm the obvious, which is Trump was at least aware of Epstein’s harem and saw the girls. Which makes sense given that he was one of Epstein’s closest friends for nearly 2 decades 

What evidence?

You assert this as if it is true. I guess it's like your magic box of electricity... or magic pipelines. 

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33 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Conservatives, when faced with an actual pedophile ring rather than a made up one in a pizza shop, try and change the definition of pedophile so their hero doesn’t look so bad.

Well, when you have to continually lie to try to make your point... you don't really have one. 

 

 

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49 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Conservatives, when faced with an actual pedophile ring rather than a made up one in a pizza shop, try and change the definition of pedophile so their hero doesn’t look so bad.   Or make the crazy claim that child sex trafficking would have been legal if they did it in Canada.  
 

You people really are just plain weird. 

I’ll have to remember that when someone says religion is a source of morality.  

What actual pedophile ring?

 

Try donepezil.

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13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

This is probably accurate

That is probably less accurate. It was probably begging various contacts for support or money or both

Probably extorting some as well.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

15 was illegal in the US. It WAS, however, legal in Canada until Harper changed the law. The age of consent was 14 here up until then. So pretty much anything Epstein might have done was legal here. I don't believe we had any laws about 'child exploitation' or the like back then either.

 

That's true as far as the age of consent goes, but it would never have been legal in Canada because he would have held a position of authority over those kids. Just like even today it's still illegal for a teacher to sleep with even a 17 year old student even though that's well above the age of consent.

But at the risk of attempting to sound like I'm minimizing what happened it is true that it was not pedophilia. He was never accused of sleeping with children, what he would have been guilty of is hebephilia if the allegation of the 14 year old was true or just unlawful sexual conduct  and of course trafficking if it's true that he 'rented' the girls out to others for the purposes of blackmail or influence as has been suggested. 

If those allegations are true, it's still horrible. Nothing can take away from that.

But it has blown up into this weird myth. People have come to believe that he was trafficking women of all ages including children in a large numbers and selling them off to people in a sort of child slavery gig where you went to this island and picked out the two or three youngsters you like and took them home with you or something.

In reality we're talking about a small number of girls, a few of which may have been under the age of consent as well as being employees, and we're talking about a few of them being pressured to sleep with a few men. Now that's still absolutely horrid, and there's no doubt that he exploited even the women who were above the age of consent and that's not legal.

But it's also not this massive giant organization of evil servicing all the rich people of the world like many think 

 

 

16 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Probably extorting some as well.

Possible. There is at least one person where there is evidence (not proof but evidence) that they may have been being blackmailed. 

But to be honest it's kind of unlikely. That's not really something you do from inside a courtroom, it's something you do over the phone I'm preferably one that isn't attached to your number :) 

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Had better start running."

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1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

You people really are just plain weird. 

No... there was a discussion not so long ago about the age of consent in Canada and there are people on this forum who were defending that. 

So, were you one of them?
 

 

 

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