Potential for the Liberal government to fall in a matter of weeks.

[Barquentine]

On 10/22/2025 at 3:04 AM, CdnFox said:

Both of them could go to the polls now if they needed to, and although I doubt they would win they might make Carney's minority government a lot more of a minority. Carnie has failed to deliver

More likely p!ss off Canadians and give the Liberals a majority. The only good that would come from another election would be getting PeePee out of our lives for good.

Yesterday Rosemary Barton asked  "You are not going to support the budget. After losing an election, saying Carney's the worst and then support the budget." PeePee froze, then pivoted, looking like the id!ot he is.

Watch it at 7:18 of the video. It's hilarious!

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6963772

 

[WestCanMan]

16 hours ago, Gaétan said:

You like conservatives because they are cruel to Palestinians, and they should have let the Israeli army kill the hostages — releasing them was pointless.

1) I have voted conservatives almost every time since I have been an adult, that has nothing to do with palestine

2) hamas is cruel to palestinians. the conservatives are not

3) This thread has nothing to do with glorious genocide against Israel, take your hate screed elsewhere

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

More likely p!ss off Canadians and give the Liberals a majority

 

That's not very likely at all. Historically In situations that mirror this when it's done it doesn't go well for the incumbent. Joe Clark, John Turner, Jim Prentice, others.

It is widely recognized and always has been that it's the job of the government in a minority government to make sure that their budget appeals to at least enough of the opposition to get passed. If that fails to happen it will look like carney did it on purpose and is being an opportunistic pric in order to gain seats and there's an excellent chance that that will blow back against him.

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Yesterday Rosemary Barton asked  "You are not going to support the budget. After losing an election, saying Carney's the worst and then support the budget." PeePee froze, then pivoted, looking like the id!ot he is.

I watch that interview. It did not go down the way you're suggesting. And in fact the pundits have been saying that it was a strong interview well done. Many comments even from those who favor the left saying this is what he needed to do in the election and didn't. So if you were pinning your hopes on that I'm afraid it's wishful thinking on your part

I don't think the conservatives would have the strength to win although you never know. But the most likely outcome would be carney with a reduced minority where now he will need the support of at least two parties in order to pass anything. And that would be death for him. That would be a huge risk to take.

The only reason he would take that risk is he knows that things get worse from here and he's afraid if he doesn't roll the dice now his chances will go down in the spring and the fall

[Legato]

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

More likely p!ss off Canadians and give the Liberals a majority. The only good that would come from another election would be getting PeePee out of our lives for good.

Yesterday Rosemary Barton asked  "You are not going to support the budget. After losing an election, saying Carney's the worst and then support the budget." PeePee froze, then pivoted, looking like the id!ot he is.

Watch it at 7:18 of the video. It's hilarious!

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6963772

 

Bull,,, he said he didn't know what's in it.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

 

Watch it at 7:18 of the video. It's hilarious!

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6963772

 

For fun I rewatch that section again and He did great there. I'm sorry I know you hate him and you want him to do bad always but that was actually a great response. He's not going to agree to the idea that there's no such thing as a budget he can't support. He shows his willingness to be open to the idea that he could support a budget and then goes on to say there are other things besides the deficit that he suggested but maybe they could work on together that would allow him to support it but carney wasn't interested

And that's a message that all of the parties are sending right now, traditionally there would be negotiations and attempts to see if there was common ground in Carney has had none of it. 

Poilievre is looking strong, and frankly I felt that the block and even the NDP was looking a little bit stronger. Carney could be really risking at all by going to an election now, but it may be better than waiting till the spring when things are even worse for him

 

[eyeball]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And that's a message that all of the parties are sending right now....

By abstaining from voting one way or another tomorrow the message from opposition parties will be; 'we're to weak and poorly positioned for an election'.  It'll be courage vs conviction - I won't be surprised to see a bunch of empty seats in Parliament tomorrow myself. 

[Gaétan]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

1) I have voted conservatives almost every time since I have been an adult, that has nothing to do with palestine

2) hamas is cruel to palestinians. the conservatives are not

3) This thread has nothing to do with glorious genocide against Israel, take your hate screed elsewhere

You support, like the Conservative leader, the genocide of Palestinians, and you say you're a conservative — it's no surprise, since conservatives are cruel. Birds of a feather flock together.

[CdnFox]

54 minutes ago, eyeball said:

By abstaining from voting one way or another tomorrow the message from opposition parties will be; 'we're to weak and poorly positioned for an election'.  It'll be courage vs conviction - I won't be surprised to see a bunch of empty seats in Parliament tomorrow myself. 

Well I think everyone would understand that the NDP is far too weak to go to an election right now and that they are poorly positioned. It's also 100% fair to say that canadians don't want an election right now. So it's not an unreasonable position, we're not supposed to be going to elections six months after we just had one. In fact funny enough if we did go to an election and it was less than 6 months then the governor general would probably ask the conservatives if they felt they could form government rather than going to an election, and the conservatives would be looking for partners to make that happen.

I mean you know I'm not exactly pro NDP, but even I would have to say it's really hard to hold this against them too much all things considered.

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, Gaétan said:

You support, like the Conservative leader, the genocide of Palestinians, and you say you're a conservative — it's no surprise, since conservatives are cruel. Birds of a feather flock together.

No one supports the genocide of Palestinians. You need to stop listening to the actual terrorists. 

I want you to think for a second about whether or not you should take people's word at face value - when they're the kind of people who spit on the naked bodies of raped and murdered women. 

Would you spit on the naked body of a raped and murdered woman Gaetan? Would you encourage or allow your children to do that?

And just remember: that all happened BEFORE all the major warfare in Gaza started. 

You had better rethink your religion if you think that's gonna get you to heaven.

[Gaétan]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

No one supports the genocide of Palestinians. 

This is disinformation: anyone who supports Israel in the current conflict supports the genocide of Palestinians, because that’s what they’re doing. People who vote Conservative or Liberal are indoctrinated by private media and Radio-Canada — they should see a psychologist. The Conservative leader is a cruel man. He says he wants to build houses, but he only says that to gain power. He’s a complete egoist and a hypocrite in denial — a madman who thinks he’s doing good and actually believes his own lies.  The Conservative leader is a damned soul and deeply corrupt.

Edited November 4, 2025 by Gaétan

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

This is disinformation: anyone who supports Israel in the current conflict supports the genocide of Palestinians, because that’s what they’re doing.

If that's what they were doing all the Palestinians would have been dead a year ago.

[Gaétan]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

If that's what they were doing all the Palestinians would have been dead a year ago.

There are problems with killing too quickly, such as the reaction of the international community

[Politics1990]

anyone who abstains in a budget vote should be forced to resign (yes even if its ndp who i support atm) im sorry but you getting paid 160k a year its your JOB to vote yes and no on stuff that can force an election not sit out and collect a pay check

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Carney could be really risking at all by going to an election now, but it may be better than waiting till the spring when things are even worse for him

I Double-Dare PeePee to instigate an election! Is he actually that stupid?

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I'm sorry I know you hate him and you want him to do bad always

Not as much as you hate Carney. You're projecting again.

Actually I don't hate poilievre. I just have contempt for him. He'll never be PM, thank God.

[Barquentine]

On 10/29/2025 at 11:00 AM, Goddess said:

Too many Canadians think socialism, the little sister of communism, is totally gonna work this time

By Socialism you mean health care, social security, EI...?

Even the most right wing conservative party wouldn't scrap those. Even the US has some of those. are they a socialist country? How much do they subsidize industries?

Every advanced country has social programs.

Just what the heck are you talking about?

[Nefarious Banana]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

By Socialism you mean health care, social security, EI...?

Even the most right wing conservative party wouldn't scrap those. Even the US has some of those. are they a socialist country? How much do they subsidize industries?

Every advanced country has social programs.

Just what the heck are you talking about?

You get an A+  . . . for 'Deflection'

Well done.

You and your ilk seem to like a big mother federal government seeping into every facet of your lives.  Let them do the thinking for you.  Sunshine and lollipops Liberals.

Edited November 4, 2025 by Nefarious Banana

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, Gaétan said:

This is disinformation: anyone who supports Israel in the current conflict supports the genocide of Palestinians, because that’s what they’re doing. People who vote Conservative or Liberal are indoctrinated by private media and Radio-Canada — they should see a psychologist. The Conservative leader is a cruel man. He says he wants to build houses, but he only says that to gain power. He’s a complete egoist and a hypocrite in denial — a madman who thinks he’s doing good and actually believes his own lies.  The Conservative leader is a damned soul and deeply corrupt.

You have no idea what actual genocide even is you stupid little donkey.

The Pakistanis committed a genocide against Sikhs and Hindus in their country. They literally drove out or killed 90% of the Sikhs and Hindus there. Gone forever. No right to return. 

The Pakistanis killed somewhere between 700K and 1.5M people and drove out 7-8M more. To this day the Israelis have killed just a tiny fraction of the people that Pakistan killed, and 90% of the people killed by Israel were terrorists or terrorist supporters. 

You accept Pakistan and their two genocides that are both in the millions. Your friends in Iran and other terrorist countries, Palestine's allies, all accept the two Pakistani genocides and regard the Pakistanis as good people. But the fact that Israel even exists makes you mad, and you want all the Jews dead.

 As far as our discussion is concerned, don't bother lying to me about who or what you care about there. You just want a genocide against Israel, and you don't care about anything or anyone else. 

[CdnFox]

12 hours ago, Gaétan said:

There are problems with killing too quickly, such as the reaction of the international community

The opposite is true. The longer the killing goes on the more the international community tends to become impatient. If you kill everybody right away then it's too late for them to say anything and they tend to move on.

Sorry but you're 100% wrong

5 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

anyone who abstains in a budget vote should be forced to resign (yes even if its ndp who i support atm) im sorry but you getting paid 160k a year its your JOB to vote yes and no on stuff that can force an election not sit out and collect a pay check

That is factually incorrect. Abstention is a valid option and that's why it's built into the system. If it was their job just to say yes or no then there wouldn't be an option to abstain.

Abstention is not smiled upon and should be used sparingly and infrequently but it is a perfectly valid option. The fact that you don't like it does not change that fact

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

I Double-Dare PeePee to instigate an election! Is he actually that stupid?

Well he can't instigate one. Only the liberals can. And then they will have to face the Voters and explain why they took them to an unnecessary election rather than working with the other parties which is their job

So what you're really doing is double daring carney. We'll see if he takes you up on it

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Not as much as you hate Carney. You're projecting again.

 

Whether I hate cardi or not does not change your hatred for Poilievre and if we're being honest it's not even a close comparison, your hatred is legendary

My problem with Carney is he is wrecking the country. He made promises as to what he can deliver he is not doing what he promised.

Your problem with Poilievre is that he exists in the first place.

Sorry kiddo, it's not me who's projecting  

[Goddess]

On 10/31/2025 at 2:08 PM, herbie said:

are sure doing their best to kill all alternatives!

That would be the Liberals.

Check out what they did to Edison Motors in BC.

MSM wouldn't touch that one with a ten-foot pole.

[Goddess]

On 11/3/2025 at 12:43 PM, CdnFox said:

And that's a message that all of the parties are sending right now, traditionally there would be negotiations and attempts to see if there was common ground in Carney has had none of it. 

Carney is a CEO.  He's not used to cooperating and compromising.  He used to giving orders and having the peons jump around trying to make him happy.

That's not how politics works, though.

 

[Legato]

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Not as much as you hate Carney. You're projecting again.

Actually I don't hate poilievre. I just have contempt for him. He'll never be PM, thank God.

Why are you frightened of Poilievre?

[Shady]

What a disaster of a budget.  An $80 billion dollar deficit!

Liberals are still calling their spending investments.  It’s right out of the Trudeau playbook.  According to the Liberals, they’ve been “investing” in Canada since 2015, but without anything to show for it.  They just keep doing the same thing over and over and over and over again.  Expecting a different result.

[Shady]

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

By Socialism you mean health care, social security, EI...?

Even the most right wing conservative party wouldn't scrap those. Even the US has some of those. are they a socialist country? How much do they subsidize industries?

Every advanced country has social programs.

Just what the heck are you talking about?

The problem is leftists in Canada want big and generous social programs, but don’t want to do what’s necessary to grow the economy to generate the revenue to fund that.  Ie oil and gas development, mining precious metals and rare earth minerals.  Building pipelines, LNG, ending tanker bans, etc.  So we’re just borrowing more and more money to pay for it.