gatomontes99 Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 2 hours ago, robosmith said: YOUR DENIAL of the EVIDENCE of Trump campaign Russian collusion from the Senate Intel Committee Report chaired by now SoS Marco Rubio DOES NOT MAKE IT GO AWAY. That just makes you a MAGA FOOL clinging to Trump's LIES. They literally released the evidence that Obama had the CIA make up that evidence. Wake up. Come back to reality. 1 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted September 5, 2025 Author Report Posted September 5, 2025 3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: They literally released the evidence that Obama had the CIA make up that evidence. Wake up. Come back to reality. NOT UNTIL YOU PROVE ^THIS is it anywhere close to "reality." Gabbard’s Misleading ‘Coup’ Claim Quote Gabbard’s claim relies heavily on an alleged contradiction between a Jan. 6, 2017, intelligence assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered an “influence campaign” in an attempt to help elect Donald Trump and earlier intelligence assessments that concluded Russia did not successfully use cyberattacks on election infrastructure in the 2016 election. But those two assessments are not in contradiction. “No one ever claimed Russia altered votes, but everyone claims that Russia tried to interfere on Trump’s behalf,” Democratic Sen. Mark Warner, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said in a video message posted on X on July 21. That interference was “well documented” and “well vetted” not only by the Intelligence Community but also by a bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee and as part of then special counsel Robert S. Mueller’s report, he said. AKA Gabbard LIED. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 18 hours ago, blackbird said: So you don't believe in a justice system to deal with criminals. This is not a war situation. A "chain of command" is a military process. In this case it is using the military to execute domestic suspects. I thought the main principle in a justice system was that everyone is innocent unless proven guilty and a requirement for the accused to go through the justice system. Terrorist are not criminals to be clear, And have you heard of the war on terror... Who do you think authorized the military to do these operations...Military does nothing unless it is ordered to do so.... Part of the oath for the military is to defend against enemies of the state foreign or domestic, here in Canada our government can authorized our military to be used against Canadians, and our history has many examples. No in this case it was used to hunt down and kill known members of a terrorist group....this is not something new the government has been doing this for decades now....you just don't hear about it in the media very often... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Aristides Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 (edited) 33 minutes ago, User said: The limits on who any nation gets to kill is only ever going to be what other nations are willing to do to stop them or the limits they place on themselves. Welcome to World History 101. Meanwhile, I shed no tears for a bunch of violent gang members smuggling drugs to fund their operations that are harming and killing Americans. So none. Americans put no limits on who their president decides to kill. Edited September 5, 2025 by Aristides Quote
gatomontes99 Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 15 minutes ago, robosmith said: NOT UNTIL YOU PROVE ^THIS is it anywhere close to "reality." Gabbard’s Misleading ‘Coup’ Claim AKA Gabbard LIED. Your fact check k is a joke. The crux of their argument is the notion that Russia didnt change votes. That had nothing to do with her press release. The primary claim was that the Chief of Staff sent an email to the CIA Director, directing him to modify the intelligence to conform to the story. They ignored best practices and published a report that they knew wasn't true. https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/DIG/DIG-Declassified-HPSCI-Report-Manufactured-Russia-Hoax-July2025.pdf Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Army Guy Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 18 hours ago, robosmith said: The order was ILLEGAL according to many experts. You are NOT an expert on US law. And thanks to the destruction of the boat, there is NO EVIDENCE they were drug smugglers and NOT immigrants. Why were there (supposedly) 11 crew members when it takes at most 2-3 to crew that boat? That is evidence that they were immigrant smugglers. Cite the US LAW which says labeling a group of individuals "terrorists" makes their assassination LEGAL. Apparently neither are you an expert in US law, illegal or not your president order this operation, and the military carried it out.... Some one must have evidence of some sort, US military just does not blow a boat up without any reason....your jumping to conclusions with out any facts to back up your claim... Your government has been taking out Terrorist all around the globe, in fact most western nations have been helping in the war on terror which still goes on today...these operation all have been authorized by your presidents...going back decades....WTF do you think your SPEC OPs groups do all day hand out teddy bears and blankets....If it is not written into your laws, then where does the authority come from..... directly from your president... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 16 hours ago, blackbird said: Forget international law. If your a terrorist and our government has ordered your death or capture then it is carried out....did you really think some judge and jury authorized it first then the PM gave the orders..... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Michael Hardner Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Exactly. I'm not going to shed any tears over the demise of a few drug runners but I really wonder what limits there are on this kind of thing. It's pretty hard to be outraged by Modi putting out hits in your country on people he considers terrorists when you are doing the same thing in other countries or international waters. Did Modi do this in the US or just Canada ? The limits are the political limits, which means they are very high. What kind of extrajudicial execution would actually evoke a strong political response ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 1 hour ago, robosmith said: No ONE is dumb enough to believe YOU have inside knowledge about what US intel knows. Even if US intel knew something, doesn't mean that Trump is telling us what THEY KNEW. And it doesn't take 11 men to crew a drug smuggler boat like the one in the video. Much more likely they were migrant smugglers. Unfortunate you're too stupid to know that 9 extra men on that boat means a thousand less pounds of drugs. Duh Lol...so...wayward... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 35 minutes ago, robosmith said: NOT UNTIL YOU PROVE ^THIS is it anywhere close to "reality." Gabbard’s Misleading ‘Coup’ Claim AKA Gabbard LIED. You're full of shit. Obama's the f*cking liar. Let's hope man-made climate change overwhelms his home in Martha's Vineyard. He deserves it for ignoring the climate activist pseudo scientists. Quote
Nationalist Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 22 minutes ago, Aristides said: So none. Americans put no limits on who their president decides to kill. Correct. So dont p1ss him off. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Army Guy Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 13 hours ago, robosmith said: @Army Guy Are US strikes on alleged cartel members legal? And yet your nation did label them terrorist and did kill them, despite what this one man says...no one to date has made a fuss over the thousands of other terrorist thew west have sent to Allah, why are these ones receiving special interest... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
User Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 53 minutes ago, Aristides said: So none. Americans put no limits on who their president decides to kill. I swear... why can't most of you on the left ever try to engage honestly on here? I already addressed this earlier. You are not interested in the facts. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 On 9/3/2025 at 10:23 PM, robosmith said: Trump orders the DoD to commit MURDER in defiance of US and International Laws In ANOTHER DESPERATE BID to distract from the IMPENDING RELEASE of the EPSTEIN FILES, Trump has ordered the DoD to kill 11 men in a high powered boat off the coast of Venezuela while "claiming" they were drug smugglers headed for the US. However they were 1000 miles from the US and likely headed for Trinidad according to actual authoritative commentators. Normally such boats would be disabled and the crew captured for interrogation to find out things like sources and chain of command. But that would not serve Trump's interest of DISTRACTING from the Epstein Files RELEASE. Trump Directs Military to Target Foreign Drug Cartels The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com › 2025/08/08 › us › trump-m... Aug 8, 2025 — But directing the military to crack down on the illicit trade also raises legal issues, including whether it would count as “murder” if U.S. ... MURDER turns robowoke on, so he's babbling like a complete fool for posting this bullshit. Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2025 Author Report Posted September 5, 2025 57 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Apparently neither are you an expert in US law, illegal or not your president order this operation, and the military carried it out.... I cited EXPERTS, YOU HAVE NOT. US military officers are prohibited from carrying out ILLEGAL orders. 57 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Some one must have evidence of some sort, US military just does not blow a boat up without any reason....your jumping to conclusions with out any facts to back up your claim... Trump gave the order to Hegseth and he very well could have made that order for POLITICAL PURPOSES. Just like he violated the Posse Commitatus Act by sending National Guard to LA for law enforcement for political purposes. You DON'T KNOW Trump. 57 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Your government has been taking out Terrorist all around the globe, in fact most western nations have been helping in the war on terror which still goes on today...these operation all have been authorized by your presidents...going back decades....WTF do you think your SPEC OPs groups do all day hand out teddy bears and blankets....If it is not written into your laws, then where does the authority come from..... directly from your president... In military operations. We are not at war with Venezuela, nor any drug gangs. Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2025 Author Report Posted September 5, 2025 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: If your a terrorist and our government has ordered your death or capture then it is carried out....did you really think some judge and jury authorized it first then the PM gave the orders..... Do you really NOT KNOW that the US bombing a civilian boat in international waters is UNPRECEDENTED? SOP (as explained by SoS Rubio) is interdiction and CAPURE. 52 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Correct. So dont p1ss him off. Stop LYING gnat girl. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2025 Author Report Posted September 5, 2025 52 minutes ago, Army Guy said: And yet your nation did label them terrorist and did kill them, despite what this one man says...no one to date has made a fuss over the thousands of other terrorist thew west have sent to Allah, why are these ones receiving special interest... Do you really NOT KNOW that the US bombing a civilian boat in international waters is UNPRECEDENTED? SOP (as explained by SoS Rubio) is interdiction and CAPURE. Quote
herbie Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 19 hours ago, Army Guy said: 11 terrorist are now dead, and your screaming about inter national treaties and laws. Who the hell claims they were terrorists? If they were drug or human smugglers there's at least a moral right to board and apprehend them in international waters. If they were attacking you, a legal right. But show us again your lack of respect for law as you claim to be enforcing it. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted September 5, 2025 Report Posted September 5, 2025 2 hours ago, User said: I swear... why can't most of you on the left ever try to engage honestly on here? I already addressed this earlier. You are not interested in the facts. So who says no, we can’t do that? You have a president threatening to revoke a US born American’s citizenship just because they said things about him he doesn’t like. What powers do you want him to have, or more to the point, not have. Quote
robosmith Posted September 5, 2025 Author Report Posted September 5, 2025 23 hours ago, Army Guy said: 11 terrorist are now dead, and your screaming about inter national treaties and laws... Your belief in the integrity of what a pathological LIAR SAYS, is naïve. 23 hours ago, Army Guy said: The war on terror is going on 15 years now, militaries from around the globe kill terrorist every day, what do you think JTF does....just because you don't hear about these operations does not mean they don't happen....do some research or something before chirping about treaties and the law... POST YOUR EVIDENCE if you expect to be BELIEVED. Just because a nation calls their enemies "terrorists" does NOT make it true. Drug dealers from South America don't have to terrorize people to sell their drugs here. 💡 Quote
Legato Posted September 6, 2025 Report Posted September 6, 2025 Just imagine if Obama had sunk the drug boat. Thumbs up all round. The false indignation because it's Trump just shows the rabid hypocrisy. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted September 6, 2025 Report Posted September 6, 2025 4 hours ago, robosmith said: I cited EXPERTS, YOU HAVE NOT. US military officers are prohibited from carrying out ILLEGAL orders. Trump gave the order to Hegseth and he very well could have made that order for POLITICAL PURPOSES. Just like he violated the Posse Commitatus Act by sending National Guard to LA for law enforcement for political purposes. You DON'T KNOW Trump. In military operations. We are not at war with Venezuela, nor any drug gangs. Are you saying that NO US president has ordered the deaths of terrorist, what happens to Osama bin laden...did he have a court date.... Yes they are , however it has already been discussed that cartels were now classified as terrorist groups , making them legitimate targets...Do you really think your military would not have researched the targets before engaging...i mean come on... Your right i don't know trump, buy don't think for one second he is the first President to have ordered the killing of terrorist... The US is involved in the war on terror, these guys are terrorist....you don't have to be at war to kill terrorist...why is that so hard to acknowledge...the US is not the only country that does this... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted September 6, 2025 Report Posted September 6, 2025 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Your belief in the integrity of what a pathological LIAR SAYS, is naïve. POST YOUR EVIDENCE if you expect to be BELIEVED. Just because a nation calls their enemies "terrorists" does NOT make it true. Drug dealers from South America don't have to terrorize people to sell their drugs here. 💡 Osama bin ladin...how did he end up dead....who killed him and who authorized that mission, he was Americas most wanted terrorist for a long time, wanted dead or alive...the list is endless... No they don't, but your president declared them terrorist which open up a whole new bag of options to target these guys... your an American FFS do some of your own research...American SF forces have been killing terrorist for decades now...are you suggesting they were wrong... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted September 6, 2025 Report Posted September 6, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, herbie said: Who the hell claims they were terrorists? If they were drug or human smugglers there's at least a moral right to board and apprehend them in international waters. If they were attacking you, a legal right. But show us again your lack of respect for law as you claim to be enforcing it. Im not going to have this conversation with you....do some research what do you think our JTF guys do all day...they kill bad guys in many different countries, countries we are not at war with, countries that have governments of their own...who do you think authorizes those killings , i can tell you it is much higher than DND.... The facts are they were terrorist, as the US president declared them to be any member working for the cartels are Terrorists... Canada has labeled some of the Cartel networks as terrorist, yes your Mark Carney did that early in his negotiations with trump in regards to the border... My lack of respect for the law....first they are not my laws, i had nothing to do with creating them....second, do some research before flapping your gums and accusing me of something obviously you don't know nothing about...Most western nations use their SF units to kill terrorist, for the last couple of decades, don't tell me you cant find one example...Who kill Osama bin ladin, was he declared a terrorist....yes he was, did he have his day in court, who authorized that killing...the US president did....Do you really think trump is going to jail for this....do you think he is the first President to order a military strike on terrorist...how many times did the US media release footage of the US presidents and staff watching in real time operations like killing of terrorist... check out 5.44 and tell me there is no war on terror, "WE will come after you and find you" https://www.npr.org/2022/08/05/1115413454/biden-trump-obama-speeches-terrorist-leaders https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/achievement/chap1-nrn.html Here is one about our own JTF, do some research on the guy that made that shot, tell me killing terrorist is not legal, because this guy killed a lot of them...Just because you don't see much of this in the media does not mean it does not happen...PS that guy has recorded over 200 kills welcome to the war on terror....Yes this guy served in OUR military, and he is not alone there are hundreds of soldiers just like him that have put an end to terrorist with out a court document, but rather a mission authorized by the highest level of government... https://sofrep.com/news/sofrep-exclusive-inside-story-canadas-jtf2-record-breaking-sniper-kill/ Edited September 6, 2025 by Army Guy 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted September 6, 2025 Report Posted September 6, 2025 5 hours ago, robosmith said: Do you really NOT KNOW that the US bombing a civilian boat in international waters is UNPRECEDENTED? SOP (as explained by SoS Rubio) is interdiction and CAPURE. Again do some research , this is not the first time US military forces have engaged terrorist... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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