Trump orders the DoD to commit MURDER in defiance of US and International Laws.

[User]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Your reading comprehension is DEFECTIVE. Try again

You posted a meme and opinions. 

 

[WestCanMan]

On 9/4/2025 at 8:37 AM, User said:

And now the leftists are defending Drug Cartels...

Leftists would defend a planet-killer asteroid that was hurtling towards the earth if they thought Trump was going to destroy it. 

[Army Guy]

21 hours ago, robosmith said:

The military had a "reason": the CnC issued an illegal order and they didn't have the guts or legal understanding to contest it.

PolitiFact:

 

Following orders is not an excuse for doing something illegal....That was dissolved back in the Nurnberg trails of Nazi Germany..."every" soldier is reasonable to ensure all orders they carry are legal....or face the full weight of the justice system....Every level of command has a responsibility to ensure ALL orders received are legal...right down to the private on the ground...

If these orders were illegal then they would have been discovered at much higher levels than your stating...room full of lawyers or military JAG officers would have looked over the orders gave the thumbs up or down....Me and you can only speculate at what the laws are or what they are not....But be ensured your government gave the green light only after it was determined to be legal...

Every western nation does this on a daily basis, including Canada across the globe...the war on terror has made this process pretty common....and in the case on US military they do this sh!t all the time....this time it made the media, because your government wanted it to....to send a message....we did this and we will do more, any time we want...Ask yourselves this why ? would they release the footage of the attack if they thought it was illegal...why open themselves up to that grief...

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Leftists would defend a planet-killer asteroid that was hurtling towards the earth if they thought Trump was going to destroy it. 

You're just routinely making up BULLSHIT now. At least you've dropped the BABY TALK. LMAO

[Army Guy]

 

[WestCanMan]

"😭 Twumpy kiwwing dwug dewers 😭".

Funny these guys didn't mind so much when Biden drone-striked a bunch of kids in Kabul. 

[robosmith]

Why the Venezuelan are NOT bringing DRUGS TO THE US. AKA Trump LIES.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1601902214107343 Video 

[Legato]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Why the Venezuelan are NOT bringing DRUGS TO THE US. AKA Trump LIES.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1601902214107343 Video 

Venezuela to Trinidad and Tobago then mainly to Spain and Portugal.

However, FA&FO.

[User]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Why the Venezuelan are NOT bringing DRUGS TO THE US. AKA Trump LIES.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1601902214107343 Video 

Oh boy, some random Facebook video from the guy who routinely denounces just about every source anyone uses...

Edited October 27, 2025 by User

[gatomontes99]

What a joke...oh it takes too long and they have to refuel. Blah blah blah. 

It takes just as long, if not longer to drive and they would be subjected to multiple customs check points, opening them up to interrogation and inspection. That equals product loss. Flying is more heavily tracked and far more expensive. 

So what if they have to refuel and take turns driving? The coastline is not as well guarded, it takes about the same amount of time as driving, the runners can ditch the drugs if they see a coast guard boat approaching and it is relatively cheap. Tbh, it makes the most sense out of land, sea and air. 

[WestCanMan]

"Twumpy is murdowing dwug dewors, mommy!" - robo

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

"Twumpy is murdowing dwug dewors, mommy!" - robo

Oh NO! The BABY is BACK. LMAO

Unfortunate the BABY knows NOTHING about the LAW.

[User]

Just now, robosmith said:

Oh NO! The BABY is BACK. LMAO

Unfortunate the BABY knows NOTHING about the LAW.

Neither do you. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

We are talking about the cocaine business here, yes? I presume not marijuana. AFAIK Venezuela is not a significant source of fentanyl and provides a small proportion of America’s cocaine market.

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Most of the attacks have taken place in the Caribbean. A 2020 report by the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) estimated that 74% of the cocaine reaching the US arrived via the Pacific. Only 8% of “documented cocaine movements departing South America moved toward the Caribbean islands in 2019, mostly aboard go-fast vessels”, it said.

Trump claimed the targeted boats were “stacked up with bags of white powder, that’s mostly fentanyl”, but fentanyl is neither produced nor significantly consumed in South America, according to Andrés Antillano, a criminology professor at the Central University of Venezuela. He said fentanyl was mainly produced in Mexico using chemical precursors imported from Asian countries, including China.

Antillano said the airstrikes were an ineffective way to stop drug smuggling as attacks on one route merely forced traffickers to seek alternatives. “It’s nothing more than a bad alibi – a narrative meant to justify other agendas,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/12/us-venezuela-trump-maduro-drugs-regime-change

We need to reflect on the precedent these attacks set. Would the US president be justified in bombing criminals in Canada, for example, if the whim took him? 
 

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[robosmith]

12 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

We are talking about the cocaine business here, yes? I presume not marijuana. AFAIK Venezuela is not a significant source of fentanyl and provides a small proportion of America’s cocaine market.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/12/us-venezuela-trump-maduro-drugs-regime-change

We need to reflect on the precedent these attacks set. Would the US president be justified in bombing criminals in Canada, for example, if the whim took him? 
 

In reality it is an attempt to overthrow the Maduro government and STEAL Venezuelan oil.

Just like in Iraq, the US government never forgets the theft of US OIL COMPANY ASSETS because the fossil fuel industry pays them to REMEMBER.

Of course the government will be stuck with the costs of THEIR CLIMATE CHANGE.

[herbie]

Those are International laws made by foreigners. Therefore they must be wrong.
So if Venezuela were to blow Air Force One out of the Carribean sky that would be equally acceptable?

[User]

41 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

We need to reflect on the precedent these attacks set. Would the US president be justified in bombing criminals in Canada, for example, if the whim took him? 

How about you reflect on what is actually happening here. It is not a general attack on anyone in the drug business, but specifically the organizations labeled as terrorist organizations that are using these to both fund their operations that harm Americans and supply drugs that harm Americans. 

I swear...

[User]

11 minutes ago, herbie said:

Those are International laws made by foreigners. Therefore they must be wrong.
So if Venezuela were to blow Air Force One out of the Carribean sky that would be equally acceptable?

Of course, because targeting declared narco terrorists in international waters is TOTALLY the same thing as targeting heads of nation states in their official transportation just because.  

I swear, do you have to practice being this dumb, or does it really come this naturally to you?

[SpankyMcFarland]

19 minutes ago, User said:

How about you reflect on what is actually happening here. It is not a general attack on anyone in the drug business, but specifically the organizations labeled as terrorist organizations that are using these to both fund their operations that harm Americans and supply drugs that harm Americans. 

I swear...

I don’t know one person who funds a regular terrorist organization but I know many Canadians who have freely funded these so-called terrorists. Stop and think what would happen if every country started arbitrarily calling criminals terrorists and bombing them in foreign countries. Should Western European countries bomb Dubai because drug king-pins live there? 

Edited November 16, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 10/27/2025 at 12:00 PM, WestCanMan said:

"Twumpy is murdowing dwug dewors, mommy!" - robo

The punishment should fit the crime. I don't believe speeders should be burned at the stake despite the fact that they endanger lives. Does that mean I approve of speeding? 

[User]

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I don’t know one person who funds a regular terrorist organization but I know many Canadians who freely have funded these so-called terrorists. Stop and think what would happen if every country started arbitrarily calling criminals terrorists and bombing them in foreign countries. Should Western European countries bomb Dubai because drug king-pins live there? 

At some point, about now, I have had enough of giving you the benefit of the doubt. It is not ignorance; this is just deliberate obfuscation now. 

No one arbitrarily did anything here. The US Government is very specifically and with good reason, declared Tren de Aragua, as well as other cartels, as foreign terrorist organizations, all within US law, to be able to target them better to prevent the illegal immigration, smuggling, trafficking, their finances, etc...

No one is just bombing Venezuela right now or proposing to do so either. 

You cried several times before now about people engaging in better discussions here... so why don't you?

2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The punishment should fit the crime. I don't believe speeders should be burned at the stake despite the fact that they endanger lives. Does that mean I approve of speeding? 

This is not a criminal / law enforcement action. This is not "punishment"

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Just now, User said:

At some point, about now, I have had enough of giving you the benefit of the doubt. It is not ignorance; this is just deliberate obfuscation now. 

No one arbitrarily did anything here. The US Government is very specifically and with good reason, declared Tren de Aragua, as well as other cartels, as foreign terrorist organizations, all within US law, to be able to target them better to prevent the illegal immigration, smuggling, trafficking, their finances, etc...

No one is just bombing Venezuela right now or proposing to do so either. 

You cried several times before now about people engaging in better discussions here... so why don't you?

These people are not terrorists by any reasonable definition and attacking them like this encourages chaos and thuggery in the world which you of course applaud. 

[User]

5 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

These people are not terrorists by any reasonable definition and attacking them like this encourages chaos and thuggery in the world which you of course applaud. 

So... you think the US Military blowing up narco terrorists in international water... encourages chaos and thuggery? No, it discourages it, because we will blow you up. 

If you want to have a serious discussion, let's see you actually go review the terrorist designation by the US government and then articulate a well-thought-out response explaining how it is not by any reasonable definition...

So far, you have several times now reduced this to stupid, dishonest language, like "arbitrary"

Let's face it, for all the crying you do on here about wanting good discussion, you don't offer much of it, and the times I engaged you when you wanted it, you ran away. 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The punishment should fit the crime. I don't believe speeders should be burned at the stake despite the fact that they endanger lives. Does that mean I approve of speeding? 

Speeders don't willfully kill 100,000 American youths every year. Fentanyl dealers do. 

[Legato]

3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

These people are not terrorists by any reasonable definition and attacking them like this encourages chaos and thuggery in the world which you of course applaud. 

Hayzeus man 4th degree obfuscation, why are you supporting drug trafficker's?

You obsession with Trump is severely clouding any modicum of judgment you have (or not).