Trump orders the DoD to commit MURDER in defiance of US and International Laws.

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

IS the US at war with houtis in Yemen ? The US declared them to be terrorist organization, long ago... and US military forces have been bombing the crap out of them....with bombs and missiles.....I am having difficulties finding the difference between killing any terrorist group by any means...You say drug dealers are not terrorist, and yet, some how your president and my Prime Minister declared 7 drug cartels terrorist groups...despite all the legal advice they would have needed to take before such a declaration...

I've given you many examples of US military forces being used to kill foreign terrorist on foreign soil, and yet your finding it hard to imagine your country has been doing this for decades...the fact that my country has being doing it since the war on terror started....along with most western nations....plenty of examples on goggle...all of them have been toughly vetted, by legal departments, inter national law, vetted through defense department, intel etc... all of this and much more happens before the military get the green lite to target someone or something.... this just does happen with a phone call from trump wanting to blow something up....

The Houthis have been attacking US and other ships on a routine basis.

[User]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You must be joking. We were at war in Afghanistan for 20 years before Biden pulled us out.

Just like we are "at war" with these terrorists. 

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

The Houthis have been attacking US and other ships on a routine basis.

This gang has been attacking Americans on a routine basis. 

[Army Guy]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Hegseth is sycophantic CLOWN who will do whatever Trump says without checking shit.

You must be joking. We were at war in Afghanistan for 20 years before Biden pulled us out.

Your government has more checks and balances than just one guy...there are thousands of people providing advice and counseling before any decision is made.... 

NO ONE was at war with Afghanistan....there was a conflict there , US military forces were engaged with terrorist forces but no war or declaration of war....Just like no war declaration of war for the Korean conflict...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States

[Army Guy]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The Houthis have been attacking US and other ships on a routine basis.

They have been declared terrorist long before they were attacking Israel or US interests in the area....this conflict is only growing bigger. But the fact remains they have been declared a terrorist group and can be targeted at any time by any means...And the US is not ther only nation to drop stuff on them, the British, US , Israelis , French have all had a go at these guys, along with a long list of coalition members that have provided anti missiles ships in protection of Israel...My point is, they have been declared a terrorist group, and that process is a long one, like you pointed out not everyone can be listed as a terrorist, so precautions have been taken....same precautions as the US and Canada took before labeling 7 cartels terrorist groups.. 

[robosmith]

4 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

They have been declared terrorist long before they were attacking Israel or US interests in the area....this conflict is only growing bigger. But the fact remains they have been declared a terrorist group and can be targeted at any time by any means...And the US is not ther only nation to drop stuff on them, the British, US , Israelis , French have all had a go at these guys, along with a long list of coalition members that have provided anti missiles ships in protection of Israel...My point is, they have been declared a terrorist group, and that process is a long one, like you pointed out not everyone can be listed as a terrorist, so precautions have been taken....same precautions as the US and Canada took before labeling 7 cartels terrorist groups.. 

Every OTHER group which was targeted for terrorism was ACTUALLY VIOLENTLY ATTACKING US.

Those 11 guys on the boat WERE NOT. Can you say UNPRECEDENTED?

[User]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Every OTHER group which was targeted for terrorism was ACTUALLY VIOLENTLY ATTACKING US.

Those 11 guys on the boat WERE NOT. Can you say UNPRECEDENTED?

No they were not. You think all those people we dropped bombs on were "actually violently attacking us?"

Nope. We struck numerous targets they used to further their efforts, their safe places, staging points, logistics, infrastructure... 

 

[Army Guy]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Every OTHER group which was targeted for terrorism was ACTUALLY VIOLENTLY ATTACKING US.

Those 11 guys on the boat WERE NOT. Can you say UNPRECEDENTED?

And according to you those cartels are not violent, they have not killed or murdered any US citizens, let alone any other nations citizens....Mexican cartels are marked as the most violent on the planet....then add on to this the over 108,000 Americans that have been killed due to consumption of drugs...These guys deserve a dirt nap more than anyone on the planet right now...And some how we are suppose to give a crap about 11 guys in a boat....These cartels are like cockroaches and are spreading across north American because of our weak government and laws, and these terrorist are thriving in billion of dollars...You have to ask yourself how these guys rate any kind of pass....Your and mine country have a major drug crises which needs to be addressed....it is time for another war on drugs, and this time we take it to those drug nations who profit from our peoples deaths.......

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mexico-americans-killed-1.5348041

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-staggering-death-toll-of-mexicos-drug-war/

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

And according to you those cartels are not violent, they have not killed or murdered any US citizens, let alone any other nations citizens....Mexican cartels are marked as the most violent on the planet....then add on to this the over 108,000 Americans that have been killed due to consumption of drugs...These guys deserve a dirt nap more than anyone on the planet right now...And some how we are suppose to give a crap about 11 guys in a boat....These cartels are like cockroaches and are spreading across north American because of our weak government and laws, and these terrorist are thriving in billion of dollars...You have to ask yourself how these guys rate any kind of pass....Your and mine country have a major drug crises which needs to be addressed....it is time for another war on drugs, and this time we take it to those drug nations who profit from our peoples deaths.......

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mexico-americans-killed-1.5348041

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-staggering-death-toll-of-mexicos-drug-war/

No we're supposed to give a crap about RULE OF LAW and INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

Seems those are NOT important to Canucks.

[User]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

No we're supposed to give a crap about RULE OF LAW and INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

Seems those are NOT important to Canucks.

You don’t care about rule of law. You support this madness. You support the open borders lawlessness.

All you care about is cheap politics as if you are scoring points on this forum pushing whatever mindless leftist talking points you picked up for the week. 

 

[Army Guy]

On 9/6/2025 at 5:08 PM, robosmith said:

No we're supposed to give a crap about RULE OF LAW and INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

Seems those are NOT important to Canucks.

Look i've said this thousands times already, YOUR nation the USA, has been doing these military operations around the world for decades....you could include Mine nation as well....And i'm sure they have offices upon offices of lawyers and judges, that they seek to find out "IF" they can kill terrorist....now that includes republican and democrats presidents do you really think they would be that stupid and not follow the rule of law, or national security policies...

Please show us the proof you have that these guys were not toughly vetted....Your just assuming like i am assuming that there is a long list of check list items that need to be checked before your military blows something out of the water...

They are very important to everyone, however there are national security policies that take president over domestic and inter national laws...being declared a terrorist gives nations another set of powers to arrest or eliminate these people....if terrorist were treated like anyone else...why declare them terrorist at all, WHY have several different class of fugitives... I wonder does your CIA get court orders when they kill someone ? or is all of those stories in the media just Hollywood stories...they make for great reading but not really true...

Edited September 7, 2025 by Army Guy

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Look i've said this thousands times already, YOUR nation the USA, has been doing these military operations around the world for decades....you could include Mine nation as well....And i'm sure they have offices upon offices of lawyers and judges, that they seek to find out "IF" they can kill terrorist....now that includes republican and democrats presidents do you really think they would be that stupid and not follow the rule of law, or national security policies...

Please show us the proof you have that these guys were not toughly vetted....Your just assuming like i am assuming that there is a long list of check list items that need to be checked before your military blows something out of the water...

They are very important to everyone, however there are national security policies that take president over domestic and inter national laws...being declared a terrorist gives nations another set of powers to arrest or eliminate these people....if terrorist were treated like anyone else...why declare them terrorist at all, WHY have several different class of fugitives... I wonder does your CIA get court orders when they kill someone ? or is all of those stories in the media just Hollywood stories...they make for great reading but not really true...

Pete Hegseth and Trump SOP is more than enough proof of INCOMPETENCE.

Have you not figured out yet that Trump doesn't follow the RULES? LMAO

[gatomontes99]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Pete Hegseth and Trump SOP is more than enough proof of INCOMPETENCE.

Have you not figured out yet that Trump doesn't follow the RULES? LMAO

Trump has ended how many wars? How many did Biden let start? 

Your declaration of incompetence is misplaced. Biden allowed mentally ill people to run the Department of Defence. Trump allows war fighters to run the DOD. You may not like it. I don't care.

This is what it takes to make the world safe. You have to give the enemy real, material consequences for their actions. Especially when what they are doing is killing Americans. It isn't pretty. But it is effective and necessary. 

Some of it doesn't fit neatly into ideals either. If we could have killed Hitler the day he took the office, we can all agree that would have been greatly beneficial to the world but it would have also been wildly outside of our values. Every rule has an exception. 

I personally trust that the Trump admin would not kill civilians and then brag about it in a press conference on TV. They are confident that this was the right move. They wouldn't be that confident without very strong proof. Maybe that proof will come to light when the intelligence resources are tapped out. For now, you can try to make your wild ass, conspiracy theory claims for political points but no one is on your side. This is a ninety/ten issue and you are on the ten side. 

[Army Guy]

21 hours ago, robosmith said:

Pete Hegseth and Trump SOP is more than enough proof of INCOMPETENCE.

Have you not figured out yet that Trump doesn't follow the RULES? LMAO

Your comments have nothing to do with my post, your and almost every other western country has tracked down and killed terrorist all over the world...And some how you figure they are breaking some law which you've yet to display with a source that proves your point....This killing of terrorist goes back decades and i know this is hard to believe but trump presidency does not go that far back...

If trump broke some laws the democratic party would be screaming bloody murder and would not think twice about impeaching him or bringing him up on charges....and i know up here in the frozen north we don't really follow US politics unless it is anti trump....I'm sure anything to do with trump would have been headline news, and all we hear so far is static...  

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Your comments have nothing to do with my post, your and almost every other western country has tracked down and killed terrorist all over the world...And some how you figure they are breaking some law which you've yet to display with a source that proves your point....This killing of terrorist goes back decades and i know this is hard to believe but trump presidency does not go that far back...

If trump broke some laws the democratic party would be screaming bloody murder and would not think twice about impeaching him or bringing him up on charges....and i know up here in the frozen north we don't really follow US politics unless it is anti trump....I'm sure anything to do with trump would have been headline news, and all we hear so far is static...  

Many Democrats ARE screaming MURDER! Duh

You have ZERO examples comparable to THIS INSTANCE and SoS Marco Rubio ADMITTED it is UNPRECEDENTED because HE CLAIMED the normal way of INTERDICTING SAID BOATS was NOT WORKING.

AKA he LIED to make excuses for Trump.

[Army Guy]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Many Democrats ARE screaming MURDER! Duh

You have ZERO examples comparable to THIS INSTANCE and SoS Marco Rubio ADMITTED it is UNPRECEDENTED because HE CLAIMED the normal way of INTERDICTING SAID BOATS was NOT WORKING.

AKA he LIED to make excuses for Trump.

So says you up here in Canada we have heard nothing and trust me Canadians eat up anything bad about trump....this will be yesterdays news before long when the next boat disappears...

I can put a Canadian dollar on nothing happening to trump...I mean you guys had an American president get his D!ck sucked in the oval office and on national TV and He said it was not cheating , and the American people cheered....Sh!t i cheered....i'm sure his wife had other opinions, but ya ......Now if he can pull that off, he can sink a 100 boat loads of terrorist without any issues...

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Army Guy said:

So says you up here in Canada we have heard nothing and trust me Canadians eat up anything bad about trump....this will be yesterdays news before long when the next boat disappears...

I can put a Canadian dollar on nothing happening to trump...I mean you guys had an American president get his D!ck sucked in the oval office and on national TV and He said it was not cheating , and the American people cheered....Sh!t i cheered....i'm sure his wife had other opinions, but ya ......Now if he can pull that off, he can sink a 100 boat loads of terrorist without any issues...

Thanks for admitting just how clueless Canucks are about America, which is what I keep telling your MAGA brethren who only watch FOS LIES. 

They are clueless both because FOS LIES  AND they only tell half the story at best.

I'm pretty sure you only talk to a small minority of the Canadians who "eat up anything bad about Trump."

You certainly MISSED what Rubio said on tape about the boat sinking.

'Strikes will happen again': Rubio justifies deadly US strike on ...

YouTube · The Economic Times

20.1K+ views · 4 days ago

 

 

 

10:38

[gatomontes99]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for admitting just how clueless Canucks are about America, which is what I keep telling your MAGA brethren who only watch FOS LIES. 

They are clueless both because FOS LIES  AND they only tell half the story at best.

I'm pretty sure you only talk to a small minority of the Canadians who "eat up anything bad about Trump."

You certainly MISSED what Rubio said on tape about the boat sinking.

'Strikes will happen again': Rubio justifies deadly US strike on ...

YouTube · The Economic Times

20.1K+ views · 4 days ago

 

 

 

10:38

There is nothing wrong with what he said. Not using normal means does not mean the means are unprecedented. However, they are escalating the war on drugs because the tools they had been using are ineffective. Now, they are using effective tools. 

You can either support Americans or you can support drug smugglers. Trump chose Americans so you chose the smugglers. 

[Nationalist]

On 9/7/2025 at 9:26 PM, robosmith said:

Pete Hegseth and Trump SOP is more than enough proof of INCOMPETENCE.

Have you not figured out yet that Trump doesn't follow the RULES? LMAO

Its simple Dweebles.

Trump chose to value American lives over the court system.

You've chosen the opposite.

I beg you to try to make this a campaign issue for the mid-terms.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Its simple Dweebles.

Trump chose to value American lives over the court system.

You've chosen the opposite.

I beg you to try to make this a campaign issue for the mid-terms.

Thanks for admitting Trump is a CRIMINAL once again. Of course that makes you the FRAUD who continues to DEFEND Trump's every CRIME. 🤮

[Army Guy]

14 hours ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for admitting just how clueless Canucks are about America, which is what I keep telling your MAGA brethren who only watch FOS LIES. 

They are clueless both because FOS LIES  AND they only tell half the story at best.

I'm pretty sure you only talk to a small minority of the Canadians who "eat up anything bad about Trump."

You certainly MISSED what Rubio said on tape about the boat sinking.

'Strikes will happen again': Rubio justifies deadly US strike on ...

YouTube · The Economic Times

20.1K+ views · 4 days ago

 

 

 

10:38

Rubio makes all of my points, the strikes were authorized by the president under powers that the US president has, he also stated this will happen again, so apparently they are not afraid of any laws that you say they've broken...

Have you listened to Canadian politics they are pretty tame compared to what happens in the US Of course Canada is familiar with what goes on in your country, all of it effects Canada in one way or another...take a poll on this forum and you'll find trump has few supporters.

[robosmith]

31 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Rubio makes all of my points, the strikes were authorized by the president under powers that the US president has, he also stated this will happen again, so apparently they are not afraid of any laws that you say they've broken...

Have you listened to Canadian politics they are pretty tame compared to what happens in the US Of course Canada is familiar with what goes on in your country, all of it effects Canada in one way or another...take a poll on this forum and you'll find trump has few supporters.

I know how many MAGA CULT there is here and it's a lot more than FEW.

Just cause Rubio panders to Trump doesn't make anything he says about Trump true.

Rubio will tell you that Trump didn't LIE when he said "I can do whatever I want." 🤮

He does whatever he can get away with doing because the SUPINE Senate won't convict him.

[robosmith]

[robosmith]

On 9/5/2025 at 12:55 PM, Army Guy said:

Apparently neither are you an expert in US law, illegal or not your president order this operation, and the military carried it out....

Some one must have evidence of some sort, US military just does not blow a boat up without any reason....your jumping to conclusions with out any facts to back up your claim...

Your government has been taking out Terrorist all around the globe, in fact most western nations have been helping in the war on terror which still goes on today...these operation all have been authorized by your presidents...going back decades....WTF do you think your SPEC OPs groups do all day hand out teddy bears and blankets....If it is not written into your laws, then where does the authority come from..... directly from your president...

The military had a "reason": the CnC issued an illegal order and they didn't have the guts or legal understanding to contest it.

PolitiFact:

Quote

WMUR’s partners at PolitiFact looked into the legality of the strike. Some legal experts said the attack was illegal under maritime law or human rights conventions, and others said it contradicted longstanding U.S. military practices and the United Nations Charter.

“The U.S. would only have the right to use deadly force against a foreign vessel on the high seas if it could be shown that the vessel was taking part in an armed attack against the U.S. or was about to do so. And there's no direct evidence as of yet that the vessel was doing that,” Lou Jacobson, of PolitiFact, said.

According to PolitiFact, experts told them less lethal options were available, and the strike raises the risks of escalating direct conflict with Venezuela.

 

[Legato]

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The military had a "reason": the CnC issued an illegal order and they didn't have the guts or legal understanding to contest it.

PolitiFact:

 

United Nations? PolitiFact? What's next The Middle Earth Council?

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Legato said:

United Nations? PolitiFact? What's next The Middle Earth Council?

Your reading comprehension is DEFECTIVE. Try again