From the people who brought you covid lockdowns, All people banned from wilderness (now with snitch line!)

[WestCanMan]

20 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

 Do you really believe that the climate isn’t getting warmer?  It sounds like it.  

When the weather is colder than ever for a year in Canada it's just just weather, but you're pretending that this year is hotter than ever and now it's climate? 

FYI it's already "Sept" in BC, and has been for about 3 weeks now. Our grass is still green, and that's unheard of in this part of August. You couldn't start a forest fire here with napalm (but campfire bans are still in effect).

Oh, no! Which way do you go with this one, TB? 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

And yet your source has got nothing to do with fines for just being in the woods....twe are talking about  the ban on all activity in the woods...not starting fires....every province has huge fines for starting fires...

Closures occasionally happen in BC but they are localized. It's a big place with varying terrain, weather and climate so blanket closures don't make sense.

[Moonbox]

54 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

And yet your source has got nothing to do with fines for just being in the woods....twe are talking about  the ban on all activity in the woods...not starting fires....every province has huge fines for starting fires...

In addition to not actually doing any research whatsoever before commenting on BC wildfire prevention measures, you won't even read them when I provide them to you on a silver platter.  So much for "At least he provides sources" huh?  

Restricted areas

11   (1)If the minister considers it necessary or desirable to limit the risk of a fire, to address a public safety concern or to avoid interference with fire control, the minister by order may designate a specified area as a restricted area for a specified period.

 

Flouting Wildfire Act prohibitions (including area restrictions) can/will lead to fines .  Those fines can be up to $100,000 if you're convicted in court.  

In addition to that, if you cause a fire that goes out of control, you may be held liable for the firefighting costs. 

[eyeball]

44 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI it's already "Sept" in BC, and has been for about 3 weeks now. Our grass is still green, and that's unheard of in this part of August. You couldn't start a forest fire here with napalm (but campfire bans are still in effect).

Meanwhile...

Suppression efforts on the Mount Underwood fire received an assist from rainy weather over the weekend but is still considered out of control and estimated at more than 36 square kilometres.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/vancouver-island/article/wildfire-leaves-vancouver-island-tourism-town-without-power-for-weeks/

 

Sure...it's just a heat wave that's killing old trees.

[Legato]

4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Of course you'd say this.... it's part of the right wing mantra

Cite where BC has been 'inept' in forestry management. 

The answer my friend is blowin in the wind, again.

Of course you would ignore the obvious it's part of the left wing mantra.

[LinkSoul60]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

The answer my friend is blowin in the wind, again.

Of course you would ignore the obvious it's part of the left wing mantra.

Another instance of.... 'I don't know' 

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Another instance of.... 'I don't know' 

 

The answer was given multiple time.

The fact that you choose to ignore is your problem, or is beyond your understanding?

 

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

When the weather is colder than ever for a year in Canada it's just just weather, but you're pretending that this year is hotter than ever and now it's climate? 

FYI it's already "Sept" in BC, and has been for about 3 weeks now. Our grass is still green, and that's unheard of in this part of August. You couldn't start a forest fire here with napalm (but campfire bans are still in effect).

Oh, no! Which way do you go with this one, TB? 

Are you aware that the 10 warmest years on record globally have been the last 10 years?  Probably just an outlier.....

 

The warmest years on record globally, according to NOAA, are: 2024, 2023, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2017, 2020, 2018, 2022, and 2021. All of the top ten warmest years have occurred in the last decade, from 2015 to 2024. 

Yes, a record rainfall on Aug 15 that doubled the previous record will lessen fire risks.

 

 

[LinkSoul60]

7 minutes ago, Legato said:

 

The answer was given multiple time.

The fact that you choose to ignore is your problem, or is beyond your understanding?

 

Where did you cite BC's 'inept forestry management'?

No need to get pissy with me if you can't talk beyond a riddled sentence....

[Legato]

29 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Where did you cite BC's 'inept forestry management'?

No need to get pissy with me if you can't talk beyond a riddled sentence....

Well sunshine, eyes are wide shut, the info was presented multiple times by different people, you know that and just choose to be obtuse.

[LinkSoul60]

2 minutes ago, Legato said:

Well sunshine, eyes are wide shut, the info was presented multiple times by different people, you know that and just choose to be obtuse.

You've shown nothing, but at least you're consistent....  

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The Libs are doing the same thing with forest mgmt that they did with covid mgmt.

Covid: 

From Jan - March 16th 2020, when he had basically no covid here, Chinese people could fly here from China, where covid was rampant, with no masks, no testing, no quarantine period, and they could go into any building they pleased and do whatever they wanted. Then less than two weeks later, Canadians couldn't even walk outside in parks. 

Forestry:

Do nothing. Don't even talk about arsonists. Then just say "No one is allowed to go into the forest anymore".

 

Why can't people go into the forest? Don't want any witnesses?  

Eccept at least with covid they had the thin excuse that it came as a surprise and they didn't know what they were dealing with. Nobody in Canada should be surprised that we're going to be having forest fires and that activity might be higher

There's just no excuse for it.

I see they're letting people that live in the woods that actually cook and use fires in the woods to live stay in the woods

So if you're walking in the woods that's a major offense worth $28,000 fines, but if you're actually living there which is more likely to cause a fire you're good.  🙄🙄🙄🙄

I assume that the logic is that the forest won't catch on fire for homeless people based on moral grounds.

Edited August 19, 2025 by CdnFox

[Legato]

28 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You've shown nothing, but at least you're consistent....  

Two short planks.

[taxme]

On 8/6/2025 at 9:13 PM, CdnFox said:

Nova Scotia premier implements province-wide ban on hiking, camping, fishing

Yep. They basically said there's a risk of fire so nobody's allowed to leave the city and go into the woods. No fishing no hiking no nothing. You have to stay where you are until winter and it's safe again.

I can understand restrictions like fire bands and so on and so forth but you just tell people that they are denied access to the entire wild world seems so uncanadian it's not even funny

I wonder what we will be banned from next in the name of Public Safety?

Give the Marxist politicians in Canada a couple of months and i am pretty sure that one of those dear leaders of ours  will find something else to try and ban. Canada has pretty much become a banning country. Ban free speech, ban freedom of assembly, ban walks in the woods, ban ICE vehicles and maybe soon banning the use of cash.

Hey, we never know, eh? 😁

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I’ve been around loggers my whole life.  Summer is always about layoffs due to “fire season”.   And it has gotten longer and earlier over the years. 
 

Do you really believe that the climate isn’t getting warmer?  It sounds like it.  

Irving does logs and pulp and paper almost all year,if he's not cutting then their hauling them out of the woods, and ya during the fire season...our fire season is not as bad as they have it out west, where thousands of hectare are burning...

Where did i say that, our climate is constantly changing, and has been since before man could walk. a few hot days and the climate crowd screams about climate change and the end of the world...i wish they would make up their minds...

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

In addition to not actually doing any research whatsoever before commenting on BC wildfire prevention measures, you won't even read them when I provide them to you on a silver platter.  So much for "At least he provides sources" huh?  

Restricted areas

11   (1)If the minister considers it necessary or desirable to limit the risk of a fire, to address a public safety concern or to avoid interference with fire control, the minister by order may designate a specified area as a restricted area for a specified period.

 

Flouting Wildfire Act prohibitions (including area restrictions) can/will lead to fines .  Those fines can be up to $100,000 if you're convicted in court.  

In addition to that, if you cause a fire that goes out of control, you may be held liable for the firefighting costs. 

In addition to not actually following the conversation, we have been talking about banning people from the woods....something that BC with all their fires and more acreage burnt than most provinces, has not done....why is that? is it unnecessary, in their eyes it is...in most other provinces they have not banned all people for activities in the woods, or  lakes...only NS/NB have gone to the extremes and banned people from enter the wood line, not because of fires, but because of rescue....

Most if not all provinces already have similar plan as you have touted....My question and objective here was to ask why most provinces in flames right now do they ban people from the entire province...

 

[taxme]

On 8/7/2025 at 6:43 AM, Barquentine said:

"From the people who brought you covid lockdowns"

Nova Scotia has a Conservative government! ( I know how much you hate those repressive Conservatives.)

That so called conservative government in Nova Scotia is not so conservative at all. Conservatives do not dream up banning anything in Canada. The premier of NS is just another lieberal dressed up in conservative clothing. Only left wing lieberals like you enjoy banning things all in the name of safety. You can keep your safety. I like my liberty. 

One Nova Scotia citizen purposely went into the woods to try and get fined and eventually was fined for walking in a no go area and he was fined roughly around $28,000. WTF. A $28,000 fine? A fine like that is criminal. The ex military citizen wanted to get fined and then take it to court which he has done already. 

I hope that he will win his case in court, but knowing that pretty much all of our judges in Canada are pretty much a bunch of radical leftwing activists, i think that this guy(imho)is phkd. All well, we must wait and see. ☹️

 

 

 

 

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

Closures occasionally happen in BC but they are localized. It's a big place with varying terrain, weather and climate so blanket closures don't make sense.

they have closures in locally here as well around fires....,the total ban  is a sledge hammer approach to hamming in a finishing nail...it does nothing accept ban the 99% of people who know and practice fire safety...to the few mor0ns that like to burn shit...and when question about it they change the goal posts it is not about fire, it's about not being able to rescue people...

Edited August 19, 2025 by Army Guy

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Where did you cite BC's 'inept forestry management'?

No need to get pissy with me if you can't talk beyond a riddled sentence....

A quick search on goggle and i found these all of them do not paint BC Forrest management in a good light....and i'm sure this could be said for the entire country...clear cut practices have been the norm here in NB leaving behind tons of fuel for fires, that and constant blow downs from storm's make traveling in the woods on foot a major test of skill. Compare our forrest with say germany, there is no comparison forrest management takes on a whole new meaning,but becasue we have a huge abundance of trees we don't really care about Forrest management..and why we have so many fires...

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2024/11/25/What-If-BC-Totally-Wrong-Forest-Management/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/forest-management-could-be-causing-more-harm-than-good-says-ubc-prof-1.4777025

https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/b-c-timber-industry-in-throes-of-change-as-premier-warns-of-exhausted-forests/

https://ipcaknowledgebasket.ca/restoring-forestry-in-bc-the-story-of-the-industrys-decline-and-the-case-for-regional-management/

[CdnFox]

SO hiking is far too dangerous to allow right now but actually living and cooking and such is perfectly fine 

Apperently these people will be allowed to stay, no tickets

Homeless people in Nova Scotia's woods choosing to stay despite ban, wildfire risk | CBC News

Sounds like it really wasn't THAT much of a risk if they'll allow this. 

[taxme]

On 8/6/2025 at 9:13 PM, CdnFox said:

Nova Scotia premier implements province-wide ban on hiking, camping, fishing

Yep. They basically said there's a risk of fire so nobody's allowed to leave the city and go into the woods. No fishing no hiking no nothing. You have to stay where you are until winter and it's safe again.

I can understand restrictions like fire bands and so on and so forth but you just tell people that they are denied access to the entire wild world seems so uncanadian it's not even funny

I wonder what we will be banned from next in the name of Public Safety?

It sounds so communistic to me when you say that the government wants people to snitch on their neighbors. If there is anyone that i despise the most are the people who will snitch on their neighbors. 

And what is with this imposing of a fine of $28,000 on anyway who violates the trespass law. A fine of $28,000 is going a bit overboard, don't you think. There is a Nova Scotia citizen who on purpose defied the law and went in the woods just to get caught. He got caught and was issued a $28,000 fine. He did so to be able to take it to court and challenge the law. I hope that he wins. This also happened during covid where people were fined around $5,000 because they would not fill out the Covid App. What is with all of these heavy fines? Bloody ridiculous, i say. ☹️

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

...a few hot days...

Is all takes to ignite forests that are increasingly parched for weeks and months on end.

In another century or two conservatives will be splaining it's just a few warm years.

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

There is a Nova Scotia citizen who on purpose defied the law and went in the woods just to get caught.

A strong frontrunner for idi0t of the month.

2 hours ago, taxme said:

What is with all of these heavy fines?

To deter people?

[TreeBeard]

3 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Where did i say that, our climate is constantly changing, and has been since before man could walk.

You don’t believe there is anthropogenic climate change?

[herbie]

OMG use such terms and they'll deny that humans affected geology too.
How could cutting forests, draining aquifers, levelling mountains, draining swamps, reclaiming land and strip mining even possibly affect the Earth.
That's sci-fi terraforming nonsense we can do to other worlds not this one.