blackbird Posted June 11 Report Posted June 11 (edited) " A majority of Canadians reject the idea they live on stolen Indigenous land, and the older people are, the more likely they are to say they don’t, according to a new public opinion poll. Among all respondents across Canada, 52 per cent said they did not live on stolen Indigenous land, with 27 per cent saying they do. The remaining 21 per cent said they didn’t know or declined to answer." Canadians reject that they live on 'stolen' Indigenous land, although new poll reveals a generational divide A higher percentage of people in the young age group reportedly think we live on stolen indigenous land. That is a good reason why the voting age should not be lowered. It appears they have been brainwashed, perhaps by the woke school system. So lowering the voting age, would give more power to young people with irrational woke ideas such as the idea that liberals push that Canadians are illegal settlers and colonials and stole the land. The truth is FNs were made up of many bands that were scattered across north America and did not occupy the large areas geographic areas which they now claim as their "traditional territory". So the claims by some FNs that thousands of square kilometers is their traditional territory is fictitious nonsense. The claims are made to get more money and control over land out of government. The BC NDP is giving in to many of their claims and is even beginning to shut down provincial parks so natives can hold so-called cultural ceremonies without the presence on non-natives. Edited June 11 by blackbird 2 Quote
herbie Posted June 11 Report Posted June 11 (edited) So what? The majority is often wrong. More so when they're prompted with lies and hatred by people like you. Edited June 11 by herbie 2 Quote
Army Guy Posted June 12 Report Posted June 12 23 hours ago, herbie said: So what? The majority is often wrong. More so when they're prompted with lies and hatred by people like you. wow, Now that is the answer we expected from the left, ...As soon as you ask questions on topics they don't agree with they shout you down and start with the accusations.... Herbie reminds me of those chimps you see at the zoo, the grumpy ones that fling sh!t at anyone that gets to close...he is always angry, and always flinging sh!t 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
herbie Posted June 12 Report Posted June 12 Oh FFS did the settlers BUY the land from tribes? Did they they negotiate or compensate for more than a little of what they took? Well if you didn't BUY IT and it wasn't GIVEN then you STOLE it. Buy a f*cking dictionary. 1 Quote
Venandi Posted June 12 Report Posted June 12 (edited) That simplifies things a bit... sell your house, give the proceeds of the sale to the nearest Band Office and live in the car (or wherever). Now all we need to do is count the Herbs onboard with the idea. So far I got none... you? Edited June 12 by Venandi 2 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted June 12 Report Posted June 12 On 6/11/2025 at 10:34 AM, blackbird said: A higher percentage of people in the young age group reportedly think we live on stolen indigenous land. That is a good reason why the voting age should not be lowered. It appears they have been brainwashed, perhaps by the woke school system. So lowering the voting age, would give more power to young people with irrational woke ideas such as the idea that liberals push that Canadians are illegal settlers and colonials and stole the land. I wasn't a respondent but am in the majority.... I don't live on stolen indigineous land. What happened in the 1600's through the 1800's is history, and that can't be changed. If the younger generation has more liberal views, then so be it. I personally think the voting age should 16 years old. If you can drive a car at 16 and have that responsibility, why can't you vote? Because you don't agree with their views is NOT a reason why the voting age should be lowered. Quote
herbie Posted June 12 Report Posted June 12 When you're simply unable to admit you f*cked up, it's even harder to admit your Great Grampa might have. And your Grampa didn't adress the f*ck up, and your Dad didn't and now you won't. Pass the same attitude on to your kids? Or DO something about it. They are offering the chance to solve it, you're the one refusing to try. Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted June 12 Report Posted June 12 On 6/11/2025 at 12:41 PM, herbie said: So what? The majority is often wrong. More so when they're prompted with lies and hatred by people like you. Are you FN, Metis, or any fraction? Are you married into FN, Metis, or any fraction? Quote
ExFlyer Posted June 12 Report Posted June 12 4 hours ago, herbie said: Oh FFS did the settlers BUY the land from tribes? Did they they negotiate or compensate for more than a little of what they took? Well if you didn't BUY IT and it wasn't GIVEN then you STOLE it. Buy a f*cking dictionary. On the contrary, land can and is "lost" by invasion, battle, conflict, agreements or subversion. If no one fights for the land, the lose it. If they fight and lose the fight, it is then owned by the winner. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
CdnFox Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 On 6/11/2025 at 12:41 PM, herbie said: So what? The majority is often wrong. More so when they're prompted with lies and hatred by people like you. The majority are right in this case the minority are wrong and possibly delusional. 1 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 5 hours ago, herbie said: Oh FFS did the settlers BUY the land from tribes? Did they they negotiate or compensate for more than a little of what they took? Well if you didn't BUY IT and it wasn't GIVEN then you STOLE it. Buy a f*cking dictionary. Canadians have been paying them for decades, over and over and over again, when does it stop... it stops when the government says it stops...until then we continue to pay... this land was taken by force, or by treaty with the UK....had nothing to do with Canadians and yet we continue to pay....we did not steal anything... 2 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 1 hour ago, herbie said: When you're simply unable to admit you f*cked up, it's even harder to admit your Great Grampa might have. And your Grampa didn't adress the f*ck up, and your Dad didn't and now you won't. Pass the same attitude on to your kids? Or DO something about it. They are offering the chance to solve it, you're the one refusing to try. Sorry, you need to talk to the british...you can't hold someone or antire different country responsible for the crimes of others....we've acknowledged those crimes justin has said sorry to everyone across the entire globe, it is time to move on....Time for the Native community to stand up on their own...like every other Canadian has had to... Do what exactly ? Canadians are not being held back it is the native community that seems ok with their plight , or like you said they would have done something about it... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Zeitgeist Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 On 6/11/2025 at 1:34 PM, blackbird said: " A majority of Canadians reject the idea they live on stolen Indigenous land, and the older people are, the more likely they are to say they don’t, according to a new public opinion poll. Among all respondents across Canada, 52 per cent said they did not live on stolen Indigenous land, with 27 per cent saying they do. The remaining 21 per cent said they didn’t know or declined to answer." Canadians reject that they live on 'stolen' Indigenous land, although new poll reveals a generational divide A higher percentage of people in the young age group reportedly think we live on stolen indigenous land. That is a good reason why the voting age should not be lowered. It appears they have been brainwashed, perhaps by the woke school system. So lowering the voting age, would give more power to young people with irrational woke ideas such as the idea that liberals push that Canadians are illegal settlers and colonials and stole the land. The truth is FNs were made up of many bands that were scattered across north America and did not occupy the large areas geographic areas which they now claim as their "traditional territory". So the claims by some FNs that thousands of square kilometers is their traditional territory is fictitious nonsense. The claims are made to get more money and control over land out of government. The BC NDP is giving in to many of their claims and is even beginning to shut down provincial parks so natives can hold so-called cultural ceremonies without the presence on non-natives. Yup, and most native settlements were temporary. Native bands invaded each other’s settlement areas and “stole” them. The Northwest Coast Indigenous who did have permanent settlements were the biggest slave owners in Canadian history. Of course you’ll never hear about that or the fact that free public education for Indigenous was a progressive cause in its day supported by the majority of Indigenous. Why? Because today’s public education systems are run by woke activists who want you to believe that Residential Schools were a system that people like them would never have supported, when in fact they would’ve been its biggest cheerleaders. These are the folks now imposing race-based education, racist hiring practices, and gender ideology in schools. 1 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 19 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Why? Because today’s public education systems are run by woke activists who want you to believe that Residential Schools were a system that people like them would never have supported, when in fact they would’ve been its biggest cheerleaders. "would" have been? In fact, WERE. They demanded it as part of their discussions with the king. Canada and John A had NO interest in it at all, but were forced to address it as part of the king's promise to the native people. And like every gov't he chose to deal with it in the cheapest and easiest way. "The christians are already running a large number of schools, tell them we'll dump the issue in their laps and pay them a small amount per kid". WAAAAY cheaper than trying to send someone to every single tribe everywhere. But it was voluntary (another thing modern teachers like to forget). And yet vast numbers of first nations people sent their kids. And their kids came home in the summers it's not like they never saw them for 4 years. Modern teachers would have you believe that John A passed the law because he hated first nations and then had soldiers go around and round up the kids and horse whipped them all the way to the interment camps residential schools. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
herbie Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 Settling native issues is just too "woke" for you is it? Well that's about the lamest thing yet, at least other's had objections based on reason. As are mine for. It's time to settle what should have been done years ago, not put it off even longer. Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 3 minutes ago, herbie said: Settling native issues is just too "woke" for you is it? Well that's about the lamest thing yet, at least other's had objections based on reason. As are mine for. It's time to settle what should have been done years ago, not put it off even longer. Never, ever will there be a 'settelment' . . . Indians feed the 'cash cow' a hand full of straw, milk it forever. You're a dreamer. 2 Quote
herbie Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 And by endlessly repeating the same BS, you're merely one f^cking bigot, a perpetrator of the problem Quote
cougar Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 20 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said: Are you FN, Metis, or any fraction? Are you married into FN, Metis, or any fraction? Would this change the logic behind his post ????? Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 5 minutes ago, cougar said: Would this change the logic behind his post ????? I have 'skin' in this game. It's darker than yours. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 50 minutes ago, herbie said: Settling native issues is just too "woke" for you is it? Well that's about the lamest thing yet, at least other's had objections based on reason. As are mine for. It's time to settle what should have been done years ago, not put it off even longer. Settle what ? exactly.... Do we settle up with other races, what about the Chinese, or African Americans, or any other race we have upset or destroyed in our history...Do indigenous people pay for those that they have conquered or destroyed...how far back do we go.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Nefarious Banana Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 Note to myself & others: The buffalo are gone. They are not coming back. Get over it. Quote
WestCanMan Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 On 6/11/2025 at 10:34 AM, blackbird said: stolen Indigenous land 12-part LPOC strategy: divide divide divide call everyone who disagrees with anything that they say "racist", regardless of what they're talking about divide claim to be the party of unity divide divide call someone racist again, just to be on the accusing side divide claim to be the party of unity give CBC and "select media outlets" enough taxpayer money to regurgitate all of their propaganda 1 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
CdnFox Posted June 14 Report Posted June 14 5 hours ago, herbie said: Settling native issues is just too "woke" for you is it? Well that's about the lamest thing yet, at least other's had objections based on reason. As are mine for. It's time to settle what should have been done years ago, not put it off even longer. Nobody even knows who you're talking to. I guess it's the weekend, your communication skills are going to shít already Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Shady Posted June 14 Report Posted June 14 Bill Maher has a great take on the land acknowledgments. He says either give the land back or STFU. Quote
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