The Age of America is OVER

[herbie]

Mark Carney has just announced that Canada will reach it's 2% of GDP spending on the military by March.
He also pointed out that this is not due to NATO pressure, it is due on the fact that the USA is no longer a dependable military ally.

BTW 2/3 of Canadians have said F Off to the Orange Overlord's Golden Dome fever dream. Might have to do with we heard that song before. that it is a ridiculous price being asked of us, or the fact that 40 years later we still remember that putting weapons in space is a BAD idea.

Edited Monday at 09:19 PM by herbie

[User]

So... no idea if any of that is accurate, but lets assume that is what Carney said... 

Then Canada was never a reliable military partner to begin with. He just admitted they are not going to meet their obligations as part of NATO, which they are a member of and benefit from, but to spite the United States. 

And you cheer that on?

I mean, do you even realize how stupid of a position that is?

America has carried NATO for as long as NATO has existed with our military size and the threat we posed to any adversaries. But yeah, sure, we are not the reliable ones because we fund our military to meet and exceed NATO obligations while Canada doesn't. 

 

[herbie]

The man who won't (or can't) read lectures Canada on it's reality. The brown chunks on his tongue still taste like KFC....

[User]

8 minutes ago, herbie said:

The man who won't (or can't) read lectures Canada on it's reality. The brown chunks on his tongue still taste like KFC....

Narrator: He screamed into the void

[herbie]

The Void himself compulsively replies with inane comments.

[User]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

The Void himself compulsively replies with inane comments.

Try this one again or run away like you almost always do:

So... no idea if any of that is accurate, but lets assume that is what Carney said... 

Then Canada was never a reliable military partner to begin with. He just admitted they are not going to meet their obligations as part of NATO, which they are a member of and benefit from, but to spite the United States. 

And you cheer that on?

I mean, do you even realize how stupid of a position that is?

America has carried NATO for as long as NATO has existed with our military size and the threat we posed to any adversaries. But yeah, sure, we are not the reliable ones because we fund our military to meet and exceed NATO obligations while Canada doesn't. 

[August1991]

On 6/9/2025 at 5:19 PM, herbie said:

Mark Carney has just announced that Canada will reach it's 2% of GDP spending on the military by March.
He also pointed out that this is not due to NATO pressure

.....

Wow!

herbie, I thought that you were a real person, an English-Canadian poster.

[herbie]

Oh FFS what the hell you talking about?
You didn't see a single newsfeed on what Carney said yesterday?

I said the American Age is over, not him. He just mentioned the reasons why.
Trump wants them to stick their heads up their arses and abandon every goal and commitment made in the last 80 tears.

[ExFlyer]

7 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS what the hell you talking about?
You didn't see a single newsfeed on what Carney said yesterday?

I said the American Age is over, not him. He just mentioned the reasons why.
Trump wants them to stick their heads up their arses and abandon every goal and commitment made in the last 80 tears.

To be honest.. I have read your posts 3 times and have no idea what you are trying to say and about what??

Carney said government will meet NATO's 2% target.... fact

The Dome??? No government response so it is a non issue.

Weapons in space???

"brown chunks on his tongue still taste like KFC."????

 

 

 

[myata]

Ditto. It was all a mirage, nothing is real:

"congress"; "checks and balances"; "free press"; "guns to protect from tyranny"; corporate media as "free"; "public healthcare and social services, socialism, anathema". The buck is someone's pocket does magic to your miserable life.

Dumb and dim were too dim to understand that they were pipe led to their demise. And finally, stepped over the cliff.

The lesson: don't be dumb. Think. Keep big money under control always. If someone is lying all the time it's because they have a purpose.

Edited Wednesday at 11:28 AM by myata

[User]

10 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS what the hell you talking about?
You didn't see a single newsfeed on what Carney said yesterday?

I said the American Age is over, not him. He just mentioned the reasons why.
Trump wants them to stick their heads up their arses and abandon every goal and commitment made in the last 80 tears.

Then Canada was never a reliable military partner to begin with. He just admitted they are not going to meet their obligations as part of NATO, which they are a member of and benefit from, but to spite the United States. 

And you cheer that on?

I mean, do you even realize how stupid of a position that is?

America has carried NATO for as long as NATO has existed with our military size and the threat we posed to any adversaries. But yeah, sure, we are not the reliable ones because we fund our military to meet and exceed NATO obligations while Canada doesn't. 

[Nefarious Banana]

18 hours ago, herbie said:

The Void himself compulsively replies with inane comments.

The context of your original post is what's inane. You have a disturbing thought process . . .

[herbie]

None of you noticed that part of this Golden Dome idea involved placing weapons in space?
Or that the entire concept is an exact remake of Reagan's Star Wars idea.
Or how Trumpy's original cost was $195 billion, that he first said Canada should pay $80+, the settled on $60+ almost 1/3 of his original total. 
Now we're all aware that Trump pulls numbers out his arse and none are real. Yet, demanding so much is absurd.

And I don't understand your lack of comprehension.
BTW means by the way, an aside from the original contention. Of course Carney didn't say that. I did FFS.

Carney pointed out that America can no longer be counted on, something European leaders have also said. And Zelenski knows all too well. The Orange Oaf has intentionally ended the Age of America by catering to the America Firsters. No longer will any leadership be found there.

That seems simple enough to understand, as ahwon by our usual gang of retreads who can't and only responds with deflection, ad hominem and the uisual childish retorts.

[User]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

That seems simple enough to understand, as ahwon by our usual gang of retreads who can't and only responds with deflection, ad hominem and the uisual childish retorts.

Says the person who can't even tell us who you are responding to or what specifically you are responding to. 

LOL

Go type to yourself in Notepad. 

 

 

[CdnFox]

17 hours ago, User said:

Says the person who can't even tell us who you are responding to or what specifically you are responding to. 

LOL

Go type to yourself in Notepad. 

 

 

In fairness as I understand it he wrote you a scathing reply directed to you personally outlining his position point by point complete with citations, but it turns out his personal tablet computer is actually an etch A sketch and he sneezed and lost it

[Aristides]

On 6/11/2025 at 7:12 AM, User said:

Then Canada was never a reliable military partner to begin with. He just admitted they are not going to meet their obligations as part of NATO, which they are a member of and benefit from, but to spite the United States. 

And you cheer that on?

I mean, do you even realize how stupid of a position that is?

America has carried NATO for as long as NATO has existed with our military size and the threat we posed to any adversaries. But yeah, sure, we are not the reliable ones because we fund our military to meet and exceed NATO obligations while Canada doesn't. 

We have supported you in some of your wars. We went to Afghanistan in commitment to Article 5 of the NATO charter, because you were attacked. Trump is now saying the US will only comply with Article 5 if it suits him.

[User]

21 minutes ago, Aristides said:

We have supported you in some of your wars. We went to Afghanistan in commitment to Article 5 of the NATO charter, because you were attacked. Trump is now saying the US will only comply with Article 5 if it suits him.

Give me the exact quote you are using here that Trump said. 

He did not say it like that at all. 

 

[Nefarious Banana]

57 minutes ago, Aristides said:

We have supported you in some of your wars. We went to Afghanistan in commitment to Article 5 of the NATO charter, because you were attacked. Trump is now saying the US will only comply with Article 5 if it suits him.

Were there also Canadian soldiers in Vietnam . . . maybe in American uniform?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Were there also Canadian soldiers in Vietnam . . . maybe in American uniform?

didn't we go after the germans before america decided to get off it's ass and get involved? Twice?

And we were in korea

[Army Guy]

On 6/11/2025 at 12:36 AM, herbie said:

Oh FFS what the hell you talking about?
You didn't see a single newsfeed on what Carney said yesterday?

I said the American Age is over, not him. He just mentioned the reasons why.
Trump wants them to stick their heads up their arses and abandon every goal and commitment made in the last 80 tears.

Well if Carney said so it must be true....you make it sound like we just invested 900 bil into defence it was 9 bil of which 2.5 of that belongs to the CG....this new money will be used to pay for a pay increase,purchase disparately needed spare parts, update infrastructure, increasing ammo production, and ammo it selve and a large chunk will go into our northern fobs, and northern infra structure...a very small percentage of it may go into a equipment program, thats should be a red flag for all Canadians that we are so far behind that 9 bil is peanuts....while other NATO countries are investing more than 100 bil or more...

American age is over is BS, we will still get the a good portion of our weapons for the states....this is all political chest puffing ,look at me...we are going to buy european now....sorry to say but the best equipment available is American....and we already have contracts signed sealed...P-8, maritime helos, MLRS, Awacs, F-35 all american weapons systems...even our new frigates have American sensors,VLS systems, Spy7 radars and sensors..Even our LAV's 6.0 are built by an american company....SO we will be doing business with the Americans for decades to come, unless your in BC then they do business with the China...

NATO is on the verge of rising it's GDP % to 5 percent total....and by july Canada will go back to being lagards once again as Carney has said he has not intention to invest that much into defence....whoop there it is....

[Army Guy]

7 hours ago, Aristides said:

We have supported you in some of your wars. We went to Afghanistan in commitment to Article 5 of the NATO charter, because you were attacked. Trump is now saying the US will only comply with Article 5 if it suits him.

Just to clarify, we sent all we could to Afghanistan, at the peak it was 2 battle groups, for those of you who don't know what a battle group is...it is 2000 to 3000 personal...or half a brigade group....and we could not sustain that for long...so for the most part it was one small battle group....and we struggled to meet those commitments...and that came at a cost , with some soldiers doing 8 tours out of the 13 years we were there with the average soldier doing at least 3 to 4...and todays army is what is the result of those deployments...

So yes we did show up, we contributed the very minimum we could,and Canadian soldiers paid the price while our government and citizens conveniently forgot about us,which meant little money, and very little in investments into equipment and in training...Most if not all that was accomplished over there came out of the military's budget...or the blood sweat and tears of our soldiers, airmen, sailors...Not Canada's finest hour, it was our military that carried that flag from start to finish....

[WestCanMan]

On 6/9/2025 at 2:19 PM, herbie said:

Mark Carney has just announced that Canada will reach it's 2% of GDP spending on the military by March.
He also pointed out that this is not due to NATO pressure, it is due on the fact that the USA is no longer a dependable military ally.

😂 

F'ing parrot.

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BTW 2/3 of Canadians have said F Off to the Orange Overlord's Golden Dome fever dream. Might have to do with we heard that song before. that it is a ridiculous price being asked of us, or the fact that 40 years later we still remember that putting weapons in space is a BAD idea.

What you're saying is stupid, herbie. Literally f'ing stupid. 

Am I shocked? 

No, I'd be shocked if you said anything that was remotely intelligent.

NEWSFLASH: America would protect Canada - even if for no other reason than - just because they would never allow anyone else to put a single soldier in North America. 

Call them allies or aggressive neutrals, we have America's protection regardless of how butthurt Carney is right now.