National Guard and Marines about to be deployed to LA!

[Aristides]

5 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Your really reaching on this one, the law covers every topic and all crimes there is, are all crimes equal no they are not , but it does not take away from the fact they are crimes under the law, and punishable under the justice system...

Punishments vary with the severity of the crime. Illegal entry is a victimless crime, looting is not. Either way, people are entitled to due process.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Are you a lawyer ?

I posted a quote from lawyers at the ACLU. Did you miss that?

 

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Typical leftist bullshit, your opinion is not the same as mine, So STFU.... just to clarify a few things this is a forum, a place where you debate "opinions" and events happening around the world....you can take out of that what you want, it sounds like your looking for a more professional website this is not the place you're looking for.

Sorry you don't get to define what this website is for. Debate is the default for civilized conversation, NOT arguing about OPINIONS.

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

 

one does not have to be a lawyer to know that it is illegal to enter another country without approvals..got nothing to do with being a lawyer as my sources have clearly shown you...

You  have to be a lawyer like those you quoted to get the complete story instead of YOUR OPINIONS.

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Then you know already it is illegal to cross into the USA without the proper approvals, to do so is against the law....look at that and your not even a lawyer...

Never believe me, believe the EXPERTS I QUOTE.

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

All my sources have clearly said it is illegal to enter and stay in the USA without the proper approvals...if it was legal why is your government rounding up so many illegal immigrants...why do they call them illegal immigrants, can you provide a source that states your government is acting in bad faith...i know your not a lawyer but try 

And you did not prove anything, being in the US illegally is a crime end of story, and persons can be deported by US law enforcement...

Your own CITE says ^this IS WRONG.

[User]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Punishments vary with the severity of the crime. Illegal entry is a victimless crime, looting is not. Either way, people are entitled to due process.

Illegal entry is not victimless. 

Illegal entry consumes welfare resources, health care resources, school resources, drives up cost of living by taking up housing, drives down wages, never mind increases total crime and risk to DUI, and all the other things that goes along with living here illegally from not being insured to running unlicensed businesses...

But remember, you assured us all here that you don't support illegal immigration. You support enforcing immigration laws. 

 

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I posted a quote from lawyers at the ACLU. Did you miss that?

 

Are you going to use that joke at the local comedy club?

[User]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Sorry you don't get to define what this website is for. Debate is the default for civilized conversation, NOT arguing about OPINIONS.

This is... YOUR OPINION LOL

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You  have to be a lawyer like those you quoted to get the complete story instead of YOUR OPINIONS.

This is.... YOUR OPION LOL

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Never believe me

Oh, don't worry, we are all well aware of your dishonesty here. 

 

[robosmith]

Just now, Legato said:

Are you going to use that joke at the local comedy club?

^Says the TROLL who has NO LEGAL CREDENTIALS whatsoever. 

[Legato]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

^Says the TROLL who has NO LEGAL CREDENTIALS whatsoever. 

All trolls have credentials, big ones.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

That includes people who came here as children and people getting detained attending meetings so they can try to stay in the country legally. 

As this continues there'll be more innocent people swept up in storm to meet some arbitrary quota. 

I have no doubt, but they are still in the country unlawfully. Moving them now is extremely disruptive but they created that situation in the first place. I have already noted that there is certainly a counter argument to be made about the long term issues you create with grabbing people as they show up to try and comply at a courthouse, And I can see that argument is valid. But at the end of the day they did break the rules and if trump wants to kick them back across the border which is what he Campaigned on Then he can do so and any of the tragedy involved would be on the heads of the people that created the problem in the first place.

Hopefully we won't see innocent people who are lawfully in the country caught up in it. However if that does happen they should have recourse to re-enter the country without too much trouble.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

All trolls have credentials, big ones.

TROLL credentials mean NOTHING wrt the LAW. Duh

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Note how the fascists of the forum rush to defend their Orange Overlord.

Note how the cultists rush to paint everything that Trump does as illegal and immoral.

Quote

And those women surrounded by cameras wearing PRESS ID. Yeah she was an Aussie illegal drug trafficker rapist stealer of FOX news jobs....

WTF are you babbling about? 

[Moonlight Graham]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Note how the fascists of the forum rush to defend their Orange Overlord.

Specially the ones decended from those who started their own War of Independence over the then govt sending the Army to shoot rioters.
And those women surrounded by cameras wearing PRESS ID. Yeah she was an Aussie illegal drug trafficker rapist stealer of FOX news jobs....

Another few days until Donnie can swell his chest over a Kent State like killing spree and the so called upholders of the Constitution Guardsmen can plead they were only doing their job and following orders.

The cop who shot the journalist with a rubber bullet should be charged with assault.  But that doesn't mean its wrong to detain and deport people in the country illegally.  Luckily the cops aren't using live rounds this time, unlike Kent State.

[User]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

TROLL credentials mean NOTHING wrt the LAW. Duh

The law?

You have zero respect for any law here right now. 

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, User said:

The law?

You have zero respect for any law here right now. 

But he did for 3 hrs on Jan 6th, 2021. That's gotta count for something. 

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

Punishments vary with the severity of the crime. Illegal entry is a victimless crime, looting is not. Either way, people are entitled to due process.

It is not victimless, look at those that lost their lives risking everything to get into the US... not to mention economic losses like jobs taken by illegal immigrants, health care costs they incur, other resources they consume while in the country illegally...if it was as harmless as you suggest why is it illegal....why not let them stay...

[-TSS-]

Aren't most of these immigrants these days more from countries like Honduras or Guatemala rather than Mexico?

 

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

I posted a quote from lawyers at the ACLU. Did you miss that?

 

Sorry you don't get to define what this website is for. Debate is the default for civilized conversation, NOT arguing about OPINIONS.

You  have to be a lawyer like those you quoted to get the complete story instead of YOUR OPINIONS.

Never believe me, believe the EXPERTS I QUOTE.

Your own CITE says ^this IS WRONG.

Ok, then...i can see this is not going anywhere, and i've reached that age where i can't be bother having a conversation with people like you....i mean your own government seems to disagree with you and everything you say....and if your UCLA lawyers are right your government is facing a massive law suit...and yet i've seen nothing about that in the media.... what i have seen is the government doubling down on military support to suppress riots and other illegals' activity so these deportations can continue...

My site is not wrong, is english your primary language, i could translate it for you if you want...just trying to be helpful.

[User]

23 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

Aren't most of these immigrants these days more from countries like Honduras or Guatemala rather than Mexico?

 

No, still mostly from Mexico. Vastly more from Mexico. 

19 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

My site is not wrong, is english your primary language, i could translate it for you if you want...just trying to be helpful.

This is what he does. Although, most of the time he just runs away. However, he will sometimes deny the obvious first and then run away. 

 

[herbie]

3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

But that doesn't mean its wrong to detain and deport people in the country illegally

Of course not, but depriving American citizens of their right to protest is another story. When I said all the protesters were illegal aliens I was being sarcastic, which zoomed over the heads of our resident fascists.
Now Donnie Dictator has doubles down called in the Marines. Maybe a few of them will remember their oath to the Constitution not to the Fanta Fuhrer.

[User]

13 minutes ago, herbie said:

Of course not, but depriving American citizens of their right to protest is another story. When I said all the protesters were illegal aliens I was being sarcastic, which zoomed over the heads of our resident fascists.
Now Donnie Dictator has doubles down called in the Marines. Maybe a few of them will remember their oath to the Constitution not to the Fanta Fuhrer.

No one is depriving Americans of their right to protest. 

What they don't have a right to do is block traffic, attack ICE and federal officers, try to block ICE and federal officers, vandalize federal property, loot, burn cars, etc...

You wouldn't know the first thing about any oath to the Constitution since you can't even be honest about what is happening here. 

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, User said:

No one is depriving Americans of their right to protest. 

What they don't have a right to do is block traffic, attack ICE and federal officers, try to block ICE and federal officers, vandalize federal property, loot, burn cars, etc...

You wouldn't know the first thing about any oath to the Constitution since you can't even be honest about what is happening here. 

 

Light a horse on fire, that one was a bit of a shocker. 

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Ok, then...i can see this is not going anywhere, and i've reached that age where i can't be bother having a conversation with people like you....i mean your own government seems to disagree with you and everything you say....and if your UCLA lawyers are right your government is facing a massive law suit...and yet i've seen nothing about that in the media.... what i have seen is the government doubling down on military support to suppress riots and other illegals' activity so these deportations can continue...

My site is not wrong, is english your primary language, i could translate it for you if you want...just trying to be helpful.

I quoted YOUR CITE to PROVE you're  WRONG Duh

You've reached the age where you cannot accept CITED EVIDENCE from YOUR OWN CITES. LMAO

[Venandi]

Peaceful protest:

 

Violent insurrection:

 

Recognizing madness when it slaps you in the face:

 

[Nationalist]

@Libbies...we've all seen this "peaceful protest". Today in comes the military. If your heros throw peaceful fireworks at them, the military will defend itself.

Have a nice day...traitors.

[Boges]

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But at the end of the day they did break the rules and if trump wants to kick them back across the border which is what he Campaigned on Then he can do so and any of the tragedy involved would be on the heads of the people that created the problem in the first place.

Hopefully we won't see innocent people who are lawfully in the country caught up in it. However if that does happen they should have recourse to re-enter the country without too much trouble.

 

He campaigned on removing violent criminals, not this. That was the whole messaging around this gulag in El Salvador. 

Sperm-head Stephen Miller is moving to deport as many people as possible. He set a goal of 3,000 arrests a day. The ugly truth about the US, and Canada's economy for that matter, is its fueled by cheap immigrant labour. Who's going to make all these iPhones and clothing items Trump is trying to onshore? It won't be whitey with a liberal arts degree.  

This will backfire if the list of innocent lives destroyed grows. There are plenty of undocumented immigrants in Texas. What happens when they raid a Home Depot in Texas, will he send the marines to a Red State? 

Edited Tuesday at 02:11 PM by Boges

[Boges]

17 hours ago, User said:

They are here illegally. If they want to be here lawfully, there is a process for that where they apply from their home countries. 

The fact that the last administration chose not to enforce the law and just let these folks endlessly check in, doesn't make them here lawfully. 

It just means that the last administration didn't care about enforcing laws and let this madness happen and build up. Now Trump is going to fix it. 

If you are here illegally, you are not "innocent"

Do you not read? They're being detained while trying to follow the rules for being in the country legally.