Mainstreet polling March 30 - liberal majority predicted

[CdnFox]

 

Wow, that is bad for the cpc. 

Carney is focused entirey on the east.  He's using the age old liberal strategy of "forget the west, we'll take the rest" and securing ontario and quebec and the maritimes according to the polling numbers

That gives him a very high efficiency in his vote, if he pulls it off.  The east doesn't care about the west so they won't be particularly worried about it. 

ITs worth noting that the CPC hasn't actually fallen much.  For the last year they've been polling around 43 percent. They're still doing well, but the ndp is set to be almost completely wiped out, the bloc is about to be wiped out as well. 

Carney isn't beating the cpc, carney is beating everyone else and only trying to win ontario and quebec. 

THe good news for Conservatives is there's a lot of election left and carney is building on a house of cards. IF that slips even a bit it comes crashing down. There's no depth to it. 

But to see the other 'recognized parties' be decimated like that is really weird.  i mean the ndp won't even come close to recognized status if this happens. 

[WestCanMan]

It's bad for the MSM. It means that it's gonna be a full 4 years until the next bribery season.

They're gonna have to pump the brakes a bit. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

The Tories have a high floor. Their core voters know full well they’re a minority in Canada and turn out loyally for their party. All PP has to do is convince a modest number of centrists that he’s trustworthy on Trump and the election is his. Simple but he’s making heavy weather of it so far. 

[PIK]

The debates are very important this time. Unless some crisis pops up and carney can't make it.  People will see the real carney. His arrogance will be on full display as PP gets under his skin and IF there is tough questions, be even better. PP is a great debater and can think on his feet and speaks good French. 

[PIK]

And it's to bad the MSM won't dig into these stories of carney,Brookfield, Peru,  Bermuda The fact he's spent most of his adult life outside of Canada. And it seems his only mission is net zero. This guy doesn't give a hoot about the Canadian people. He's on a mission and he doesn't care if the small guy gets let behind. He will not be able to hold this country together.

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's bad for the MSM. It means that it's gonna be a full 4 years until the next bribery season.

They're gonna have to pump the brakes a bit. 

Oh I'm sure the liberals will take steps to keep them deep in their pockets if necessary. At least the ones they like

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, PIK said:

The debates are very important this time. Unless some crisis pops up and carney can't make it.  People will see the real carney. His arrogance will be on full display as PP gets under his skin and IF there is tough questions, be even better. PP is a great debater and can think on his feet and speaks good French. 

Definitely debates have changed elections and the media won't be able to cover for him as easily.

And you can bet everyone will be gunning for him. If jack needs Singh has even a tenth of a brain he will forget all about poilievre and we'll focus on Kearney stealing the woke agenda when he's really an evil conservative at heart who renovicts people And you better vote NDP to keep that from happening. The block leader is going to get shot down because everything he's proposing carney can just say I'm not going to do that. Like he's running on no pipelines across Quebec and Kearney will just say okay no problem and his entire argument is out the window.

I don't think Carney even has any plans currently to come out west. He knows if he ties up Ontario and Quebec he wins. So that's where he's focusing his energy. I'm sure he'll poke his nose out to Vancouver once but at the end of the day he doesn't care about canada and he doesn't care about the west, he cares about winning and draining canada dry. 

Edited Sunday at 06:30 PM by CdnFox

[West]

The Liberals took a good strategy with removing a divisive character in Trudeau and replacing him with a more mild mannered banker. I think the public is tired of the political side shows after Covid. 

The real power players keep their gravy train with their guy who will allow for the raiding of Canadian natural resources by foreign corporations. No real change, the population is still by and large asleep as to what's going on

38 minutes ago, PIK said:

And it's to bad the MSM won't dig into these stories of carney,Brookfield, Peru,  Bermuda The fact he's spent most of his adult life outside of Canada. And it seems his only mission is net zero. This guy doesn't give a hoot about the Canadian people. He's on a mission and he doesn't care if the small guy gets let behind. He will not be able to hold this country together.

He's a globalist character hand picked to keep the flow of resources going. 

[xul]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Wow, that is bad for the cpc. 

Now CPC needs to find the CEO of an insurance company to be its leader, and his campaign slogan should be "After liberal banker has failed Canadian, Conservative Party will insure Canada's future.... "😜😂

LOL. In China, there is a common saying 时势造英雄, which means "When a nation is in crisis, it offers an opportunity to a true hero to lead". What Trump has done creates a national wide crisis in Canada, and it also creates a stage for Canadian politicians to show Canadian what they truly are. But what we have seen from those conservative politicians are:

1) First a few day after Trump's BS, all conservative politicians just acted like some puppets without someone pulling strings. They kept saying Fentanyl, border, Fentanyl, border....obviously didn't know what to do.

2) Then they finally came out a campaign slogan which was copied from Trump: Canada First. Just imagine, Winston Churchill gave his audience a Nazi salute to show his resolves when he made his famous "We should fight on beaches" speech...

3) Now under panic of losing the election, conservatives begin to speak out their routine "liberal did this wrong, liber did that wrong....". They don't realize under current circumstance, most voters favor future tense rather than past tense...

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ITs worth noting that the CPC hasn't actually fallen much.  For the last year they've been polling around 43 percent. They're still doing well

It only proves that the party has become rather like a cult than a political party, just like the Republican Party in US.

The typical symptom of cult members is that they all act like robots. They can't be reasoned with and they absolutely will not stop to follow the leader of the cult, even if this leader is obviously speaking or doing BS....😢

The definition of a cult:

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Cult is a term often applied to new religious movements and other social groups which have unusual, and often extreme, religious, spiritual, or philosophical beliefs and rituals. Extreme devotion to a particular person, object, or goal is another characteristic often ascribed to cults.

 

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, xul said:

Now CPC needs to find the CEO of an insurance company to be its leader, and his campaign slogan should be "After liberal banker has failed Canadian, Conservative Party will insure Canada's future.... "😜😂

LOL. In China, there is a common saying 时势造英雄, which means "When a nation is in crisis, it offers an opportunity to a true hero to lead". What Trump has done creates a national wide crisis in Canada, and it also creates a stage for Canadian politicians to show Canadian what they truly are. But what we have seen from those conservative politicians are:

1) First a few day after Trump's BS, all conservative politicians just acted like some puppets without someone pulling strings. They kept saying Fentanyl, border, Fentanyl, border....obviously didn't know what to do.

2) Then they finally came out a campaign slogan which was copied from Trump: Canada First. Just imagine, Winston Churchill gave his audience a Nazi salute to show his resolves when he made his famous "We should fight on beaches" speech...

3) Now under panic of losing the election, conservatives begin to speak out their routine "liberal did this wrong, liber did that wrong....". They don't realize under current circumstance, most voters favor future tense rather than past tense...

It only proves that the party has become rather like a cult than a political party, just like the Republican Party in US.

The typical symptom of cult members is that they all act like robots. They can't be reasoned with and they absolutely will not stop to follow the leader of the cult, even if this leader is obviously speaking or doing BS....😢

The definition of a cult:

 

Literally none of that made sense. It's inappropriate to drink before posting

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

All PP has to do is convince a modest number of centrists that he’s trustworthy on Trump and the election is his.

He also has to convince his more hard-boiled outspoken supporters to keep their mouths shut but with Danielle Smith saying to hell that he's facing an uphill struggle.

I don't know why the other parties don't do more to goad his supporters.

[Gaétan]

In my opinion, the woes of the Conservatives and the NDP are caused by the cia wanting to get their agent elected as prime minister

[Moonbox]

On 3/30/2025 at 5:30 PM, eyeball said:

I don't know why the other parties don't do more to goad his supporters.

Napoleon said, "Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake". 

Up until a couple days ago, PP was still spending millions on pamphlets and advertisements squawking juvenile three-word slogans in a political environment deeply and negatively focused against the master of juvenile three-word slogans.  

This sort of self-inflicted injury is a gift to his opponents, and they're wise to just step back and let him hurt himself as long as it lasts. 

[cougar]

On 3/30/2025 at 10:19 AM, CdnFox said:

 

Wow, that is bad for the cpc. 

Carney is focused entirey on the east.  He's using the age old liberal strategy of "forget the west, we'll take the rest" and securing ontario and quebec and the maritimes according to the polling numbers

That gives him a very high efficiency in his vote, if he pulls it off.  The east doesn't care about the west so they won't be particularly worried about it. 

ITs worth noting that the CPC hasn't actually fallen much.  For the last year they've been polling around 43 percent. They're still doing well, but the ndp is set to be almost completely wiped out, the bloc is about to be wiped out as well. 

Carney isn't beating the cpc, carney is beating everyone else and only trying to win ontario and quebec. 

THe good news for Conservatives is there's a lot of election left and carney is building on a house of cards. IF that slips even a bit it comes crashing down. There's no depth to it. 

But to see the other 'recognized parties' be decimated like that is really weird.  i mean the ndp won't even come close to recognized status if this happens. 

Good news.   And looking at the replies, Blackbird has either taken a vacation or followed my advice to fly south.

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 3/30/2025 at 7:00 PM, eyeball said:

He also has to convince his more hard-boiled outspoken supporters to keep their mouths shut but with Danielle Smith saying to hell that he's facing an uphill struggle.

I don't know why the other parties don't do more to goad his supporters.

Danielle Smith is clearly a Chinese-made robot working for the Liberals. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Danielle Smith is clearly a Chinese-made robot working for the Liberals. 

Says the guy voting for mark carney, who's bought and paid for by the chinese  

 My hypocrisy meter just exploded   Shouldn't have shown it your post LOL

[SpankyMcFarland]

Poilievre doesn’t seem to understand that you can compete with somebody without even mentioning them. When it comes to Trump he should talk just about that absurd balloon and not bring Carney into it at all. Voters are bright enough to draw their own conclusions, thank you very much. 

Edited 14 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Says the guy voting for mark carney, who's bought and paid for by the chinese  

 My hypocrisy meter just exploded   Shouldn't have shown it your post LOL

Of course there are people out there who imagine Chinese influence is confined to the Liberals, bless their hearts. 
 

And you think Smith has been helping the Tory campaign? Would you like to give her a bigger role? 

Edited 14 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland

[Michael Hardner]

Well it's difficult to understand the appeal of Carney, the most boring politician we have seen in a country of boring politicians, we should note that Poilievre was only ever popular in relation to Trudeau. His numbers were never good, in terms of likability. 

As for this West versus East thing... We are behaving as a nation more than we have in years, in the face of the tariff threat.  Separatism in Quebec is down.  And based on 338 seat projections, the Liberals are healthy... Tied with the CPC in Manitoba, and ahead in BC based on seat counts. 

Poilievre is a Rebel, and Canada is culturally loyalist which is the opposite... The USA was formed by rebels, we defer to authority. Carney is an insufferably dull authority on the economy.

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Poilievre doesn’t seem to understand that you can compete with somebody without even mentioning them. When it comes to Trump he should talk just about that absurd balloon and not bring Carney into it at all. Voters are bright enough to draw their own conclusions, thank you very much. 

But he's not competing with trump. He's competing with Carney. By your own logic that's what he should focus talking about. 

As it is he does talk about trump but his campaign is built on the idea that no matter what happens with trump canadians are still going to need to solve the problems they had before hand, namely they can't afford homes or food.  It's hard to control trump, and carney hasn't done a thing to show he has any ability to do so. We still have new tariffs as well as the old, and we're still going to get clobbered. 

We can't control trump, but we can control our own actions and economy.  And even carney has been switching to that message copying PP. 

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Of course there are people out there who imagine Chinese influence is confined to the Liberals, bless their hearts. 
 

 

The chinese for one...

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And you think Smith has been helping the Tory campaign? Would you like to give her a bigger role? 

Ahhh yes, whenever you don't have a point to argue you just make up something at random that the other person never said and argue with that   It's kind of your go to  

I don't think PP has any control over smith any more than he has control over ford or legault or any other provincial leader. What she does has nothing to do with what his plans are or how he will run his gov't. 

The fact that you're even talking about her shows that the liberals are less interested in putting their own platform forward and more interested in smears and desperately trying to connect PP to things that have nothing to do with him.

Pathetic.  You absolutely don't deserve to win and i still suspect that canadians will see you and  yours for what you are. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

53 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But he's not competing with trump. He's competing with Carney. By your own logic that's what he should focus talking about. 

As it is he does talk about trump but his campaign is built on the idea that no matter what happens with trump canadians are still going to need to solve the problems they had before hand, namely they can't afford homes or food.  It's hard to control trump, and carney hasn't done a thing to show he has any ability to do so. We still have new tariffs as well as the old, and we're still going to get clobbered. 

We can't control trump, but we can control our own actions and economy.  And even carney has been switching to that message copying PP. 

 

Poilievre doesn’t have to mention Carney and the Liberals every time he talks about Trump. It’s mixing domestic and foreign policy in an awkward way. He’s already seen as too divisive, partisan and extreme by many in the centrist target group he needs to win over and not a committed Team Canada player. Let people draw their own conclusions about how he measures up to Carney on the Trump file. By contrast, he can talk about affordability and the Liberals as much as he likes. That’s a regular election issue where he has credibility across a wide swathe of the political spectrum.

Just my opinion. 

Edited 4 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland

[TreeBeard]

40 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Poilievre doesn’t have to mention Carney and the Liberals every time he talks about Trump.

He wants Canadians to believe that Trump is the Libs fault.  It’s a weird talking point that makes zero sense.  
 

Clearly it doesn’t resonate.  People take it as blaming their fellow Canadians for the actions of the orange menace.  Very unpatriotic and doesn’t play well to normal Canadians. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

He wants Canadians to believe that Trump is the Libs fault.  It’s a weird talking point that makes zero sense.  
 

Clearly it doesn’t resonate.  People take it as blaming their fellow Canadians for the actions of the orange menace.  Very unpatriotic and doesn’t play well to normal Canadians. 

He has to inspire trust on the Trump file. That’s what he’s missing I think. 

[TreeBeard]

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

He has to inspire trust on the Trump file. That’s what he’s missing I think. 

Even his “Canada first” rhetoric is so Trumpy that it turns normal Canadians off.  And talking about women’s ovaries is probably not a smart move.  Fire that speech writer and hire a woman speech writer.