Nefarious Banana Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 Will Carney inherite Trudeau's 'sparkle sock' collection . . . ? Or, how about Steven Guilbeault's crippling resource policies ? Quote
eyeball Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Like the last 2 liberal minority governments??? Negotiations??? Where? Cooperation? When? Liberals were the offical government but the NDP were the ones getting what they want if they supported liberals or nothing was done Minority governments do not work either. Obviously they do work if the NDP got what they wanted. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ExFlyer Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: Obviously they do work if the NDP got what they wanted. Ha yea, the NDP got what they wanted. Can you imagine the NDP holding the conservatives hostage??? LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
WestCanMan Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 11 hours ago, Barquentine said: I actually listened to a big chunk of PP's speech today. I was expecting more. Still using the same old slogans, making a lot of big promises "bring prices down, get the economy fired up,.... essentially the same stump speech Trump gave, and like Trump, no no good explanation of how he would do those things. You just hear what you want to hear. You're completely ignoring that Trudeau came in with sharp anti-oil rhetoric that drove over $100B in investments away from Canada, and similar anti-coal drivel that forced our coal to travel all the way to China to get burned, "to save the planet" somehow. Can you explain to me how that works? Does coal release less CO2 if you ship clear across the planet to burn it? Look on the south of Japan on the left there, that's how far our coal travels overseas to be burned "to save the planet" 🤣. Then it gets shipped by rail across China. Energy costs in Canada went nuts after Trudeau came in. 1992-2009 is basically no change, then it went from $1.5 to $1.65 in just a couple years. The rising cost of energy was abrupt, and got Canadians heating their homes and driving their cars at the same time. Gas was $1.04 in Vancouver in 2009, by 2011 it was up by 35%, but gas has been $2/l for a long time now. It's about $1.90 right now. If PP's plan is just to "not be ret4rded", that will be a huge step up. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Gaétan Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 The cia recruits people like him all over the world and helps them reach the highest peaks, he has moved Canadian jobs to the United States which proves that he is not a true Canadian patriot and the smoke generated by the media Quote
BeaverFever Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: You just hear what you want to hear. You're completely ignoring that Trudeau came in with sharp anti-oil rhetoric that drove over $100B in investments away from Canada, and similar anti-coal drivel that forced our coal to travel all the way to China to get burned, "to save the planet" somehow. Can you explain to me how that works? Does coal release less CO2 if you ship clear across the planet to burn it? Look on the south of Japan on the left there, that's how far our coal travels overseas to be burned "to save the planet" 🤣. Then it gets shipped by rail across China. Energy costs in Canada went nuts after Trudeau came in. 1992-2009 is basically no change, then it went from $1.5 to $1.65 in just a couple years. The rising cost of energy was abrupt, and got Canadians heating their homes and driving their cars at the same time. Gas was $1.04 in Vancouver in 2009, by 2011 it was up by 35%, but gas has been $2/l for a long time now. It's about $1.90 right now. If PP's plan is just to "not be ret4rded", that will be a huge step up. You know Trudeau became PM in 2015 right? Why are all your charts only about the period before then? Edited March 10 by BeaverFever Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Like the last 2 liberal minority governments??? Negotiations??? Where? Cooperation? When? Liberals were the offical government but the NDP were the ones getting what they want if they supported liberals or nothing was done Minority governments do not work either. Canada has to get over its phobia of coalitions. They work well in many countries. 1 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: a three passport holding British - Irish - Canadian Citoyen de Monde, the only Canadian politician whom represents my identitarian camp actually, God save Ireland, God save the King, Quote
CdnFox Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: Also could be Singh's swansong. That much is pretty much guaranteed. There's a reasonable chance he won't even win his riding. If the poles are to be believed and the ndp support that remains goes to the liberals it could be the worst seat showing in the ndp's existence. This would be his third kick at the can with nothing to show for it I'm two out of three with serious losses. I said the day they did the deal with the liberals that history shows again and again that whatever these deals are done no matter how popular they are at the time come the next election the junior party in that arrangement suffers horribly at the polls. But he wanted his pension Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 (edited) Come the hour, cometh the man. However, I have a few grumpy quibbles. Carney has an impressive CV in an another line of work, admittedly with a political component of its own. Obviously, I wouldn’t be a PP fan but I would prefer any Canadian PM to have solid experience in the parliamentary field as an MP and minister rather than learning on the job. Given that he’s been thinking about this move for years, he should have taken the trouble to brush up his dodgy French which could be a big vulnerability in the election campaign. Another issue - age. As an older person, I prefer younger candidates for politics, preferably 35-55. I’ll grant that Carney is fit and that Chrétien was effective in his sixties but I would prefer somebody younger who is more in touch with the struggles working people face making a living and buying a home. With all that said, the party has spoken loud and clear. What a landslide. Edited March 10 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
Gaétan Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: His qualifications and experience come from his relations with Freemason clubs or their equivalents not because he has done something in practice. Edited March 10 by Gaétan 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, Gaétan said: His qualifications and experience come from Freemason clubs or their equivalents 32 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: So somehow you feel a guy who has never ever done this job has more qualifications and experience than a person who has done the job for most of his adult life So when you go to get an operation do you ask the doctor how much other work experience he's had or demand to know if he's one of those lifetime medical practitioners? LOL Imagine pretending that someone who has done the job for decades is somehow less qualified than someone who's never done it at all a day in his life 1 Quote
Gaétan Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So somehow you feel a guy who has never ever done this job has more qualifications and experience than a person who has done the job for most of his adult life So when you go to get an operation do you ask the doctor how much other work experience he's had or demand to know if he's one of those lifetime medical practitioners? LOL Imagine pretending that someone who has done the job for decades is somehow less qualified than someone who's never done it at all a day in his life Carney has done nothing, he had just said to coworkers rise the interest rate or lower it or such things to dump people or help others according to what real workers told him to do. 1 Quote
PIK Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So somehow you feel a guy who has never ever done this job has more qualifications and experience than a person who has done the job for most of his adult life So when you go to get an operation do you ask the doctor how much other work experience he's had or demand to know if he's one of those lifetime medical practitioners? LOL Imagine pretending that someone who has done the job for decades is somehow less qualified than someone who's never done it at all a day in his life That makes me laugh. But carneys lack of political expirence will show up in the debates. Carney is the one that will sell out Canada, not PP. Once the election hits, carney will have to spend most of it defending himself over all his lies and some very dirty business practices. Starting with Peru. Carney has been brought up in the posh banking world , he is in for a world of hurt,when the election starts. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Army Guy Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 43 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: You forgot single handedly solved the financial crises' of 2008, says he is a european,not Canadian, has constantly lied on his campaign, (which the left prefers) i get it he is superman without a cape... the upcoming election his true colors are going to come out, may the best man win....I'm just wondering what exactly were Justin's qualifications again...other than his last name....didn't he win 3 times... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 12 minutes ago, PIK said: That makes me laugh. But carneys lack of political expirence will show up in the debates. Carney is the one that will sell out Canada, not PP. Once the election hits, carney will have to spend most of it defending himself over all his lies and some very dirty business practices. Starting with Peru. Carney has been brought up in the posh banking world , he is in for a world of hurt,when the election starts. Poilievre is vulnerable on the Trump issue. The Liberals clearly believe that because they’ve started those lines already. More fundamentally, a likeability deficit has dogged him for years - now people question whether he can unite the country. He’s got to look more like a PM in a national crisis and less like a snarky attack dog who appeals to angry losers. A word in defence of Carney. Since when did making it into ‘posh’ circles, ie success, become such a liability on the right? 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 6 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Poilievre is vulnerable on the Trump issue. The Liberals clearly believe that because they’ve started those lines already. More fundamentally, a likeability deficit has dogged him for years - now people question whether he can unite the country. He’s got to look more like a PM in a national crisis and less like a snarky attack dog who appeals to angry losers. A word in defence of Carney. Since when did making it into ‘posh’ circles, ie success, become such a liability on the right? please explain how PP is vulnerable to trump, more than say carney ? Lets not forget the liberals have brought us to this point in time, what makes you think that they NOW they can swing it all around....when they failed to do anything in the last 8 plus years...it is basically the same people that will be under carneys charge....how many times do we have to beat our heads on the same wall trying to get different results.... we need change, not the same old stuff from the liberals, who really have not explained how we are going to get to the objective nor have they explained why they have taken over the conservative platform....because they don't have any original ideas... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
BeaverFever Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: So somehow you feel a guy who has never ever done this job has more qualifications and experience than a person who has done the job for most of his adult life So when you go to get an operation do you ask the doctor how much other work experience he's had or demand to know if he's one of those lifetime medical practitioners? LOL Imagine pretending that someone who has done the job for decades is somehow less qualified than someone who's never done it at all a day in his life PP has never been prime minister. He’s never been a cabinet member. He’s only been a party leader for a minute. He’s never had a real job to boot. Nice try, not even close I love how you folks cream your jeans that Trump was “a political outsider” before running for president then take the exact opposite position when it suits you. Edited March 10 by BeaverFever Quote
BeaverFever Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Army Guy said: You forgot single handedly solved the financial crises' of 2008, says he is a european,not Canadian, has constantly lied on his campaign, (which the left prefers) i get it he is superman without a cape... the upcoming election his true colors are going to come out, may the best man win....I'm just wondering what exactly were Justin's qualifications again...other than his last name....didn't he win 3 times... He never said he singlehandedly solved the financial crisis - you’ll recall Canada didn’t have one - but he was celebrated for his stewardship of BOC during that time in which the US financial crisis lead to a shallow and short recession in Canada. Ive also never heard him say he’s European not Canadian. Your “constantly lied” claim actually refers to one specific statement about his role in Brookfield moving its HQ to NYC so seems to be a typical conservative exaggeration. Edited March 10 by BeaverFever Quote
Legato Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: PP has never been prime minister. He’s only been a party leader for a minute. He’s never had a real job to boot. I love how you folks cream your jeans that Trump was “a political outsider” before running for president then take the exact opposite position when it suits you. Trudeau's bean been taking Carney's financial advice for 5 years, the most prosperous 5 years in Canadian history. That's what the fairies said. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 21 minutes ago, Army Guy said: please explain how PP is vulnerable to trump, more than say carney ? Lets not forget the liberals have brought us to this point in time, what makes you think that they NOW they can swing it all around....when they failed to do anything in the last 8 plus years...it is basically the same people that will be under carneys charge....how many times do we have to beat our heads on the same wall trying to get different results.... we need change, not the same old stuff from the liberals, who really have not explained how we are going to get to the objective nor have they explained why they have taken over the conservative platform....because they don't have any original ideas... I’m trying to say what I think is the case, not what I want to happen. I believe PP is more vulnerable than Carney on the Trump issue because his policies and voters align more closely with Trumpism. The populist, PPC-adjacent wing of the party is quite Trumpy in its views. Carney has never flirted with cryptocurrency, for example. Canada is overdue a political change in management but Trump has disrupted the natural cycle. It’s going to be a much harder slog for Poilievre than it would have been in 2024. Quote
Gaétan Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 The election of Marc Carney as Liberal leader and prime minister is a fraud because he was favoured by the media who manipulated the population to get him elected Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You know Trudeau became PM in 2015 right? Why are all your charts only about the period before then? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
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