CdnFox Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 So carney got the opportunity to change the election from a carbon tax election to something else, and he went with making it an election on 'woke'. With this guy leading the party in the next election campaign, the liberals will be lucky to get enough seats to fill a Hugo. I was going to say 'smart car' but given the circumstances that seems wildly inappropriate. 3 Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 How come no one can ever define woke? If you use a term, you’d think you would know what it means. 1 2 Quote
Moonbox Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: How do you define woke? It doesn't really matter. This isn't a winning angle for Carney. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Chrissy1979 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Moonbox said: It doesn't really matter. This isn't a winning angle for Carney. It’s so easy to shut you guys up. Just ask you what the words you use mean. 😂 Quote
Moonbox Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Just now, Chrissy1979 said: It’s so easy to shut you guys up. Just ask you what the words you use mean. 😂 I think you're misreading your audience here. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Queenmandy85 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 What did he say. For those who are not stupid enough to click on suspicious links, a little bit of text would be nice. 1 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Moonbox Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Nothing particularly interesting. He basically pointed at the culture war politics in the US and the rage against "woke", but that his Canada would remain inclusive. I don't think he's reading the room very well. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Aristides Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Of course he never said any such thing. He said that while Americans engage in a war on woke, Canadians will continue to value the truth. Anyone got a problem with that? 3 1 Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Sounds good to me. Thanks for the explanation. 👍 Why would anyone consider including people as a negative? Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Michael Hardner Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: Sounds good to me. Thanks for the explanation. 👍 Why would anyone consider including people as a negative? What he should have said is: the culture wars are divisive and pointless. Let's move on. 1 3 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 3 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: How come no one can ever define woke? If you use a term, you’d think you would know what it means. People have to find woke here about 150 times now. Every time the word comes up one of you low brain lefties tries to pretend that nobody can explain it. 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Of course he never said any such thing. He said that while Americans engage in a war on woke, Canadians will continue to value the truth. Anyone got a problem with that? He didn't say anything about the truth. He said America will wage its war on woke but Canadians will keep their values. Has any English teacher can tell you in that context what he's saying is that America is against woke but Canada is for it. I suspect he meant it differently. I suspect that what he probably meant to say was something more along the lines of america is fighting a war against Progressive values which they call woke whereas Canada will retain its belief in Progressive values. But that's not what he said. And for politicians what you say matters. And this is why he's going to get absolutely eaten alive in the next election Quote
CdnFox Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: What he should have said is: the culture wars are divisive and pointless. Let's move on. Oh look, Michael showed up to say "Why are we talking about this" Like he does with every single thing that is embarrassing to the liberals that he can't refute. Yawn, If he can't say what he should have said, or what he meant, then he shouldn't be prime minister. The number one job of the Prime Minister is to communicate to the people and he is displaying that he is incapable of doing that even in simple circumstances. I completely understand why you, as a liberal supporter, would like us not to talk about this but it is a discussion that needs to be had. This guy is not up to the job 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 All he did was acknowledge that Carney could have worded it better. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, Moonbox said: All he did was acknowledge that Carney could have worded it better. No, he tried to minimize it and then said let's move on and not talk about it further. I've pointed this out many times, whenever he comes across something he doesn't like that he can't refute he comes up with some version of "Why are we even talking about this", And it's a common tactic we see on the left. If it was one time obviously I wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on. If he did it a couple of times a year I really probably wouldn't be able to make much of a statement. But he's fairly chronic and I have pointed it out many times. For a guy who never starts a thread He spends an awful lot of time complaining about what other people are talking about. 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Carney is Canada's only hope, when dealing with Trump. PP was abandoned as a baby, and it has left him with deep psychological issues. He has proven that he is not a good leader, and should be tossed from the Conservative Party. 6 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: How come no one can ever define woke? If you use a term, you’d think you would know what it means. I made a topic on this. None of the MAGA posters gave an acceptable answer. 2 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: Carney is Canada's only hope, when dealing with Trump. No, carney is your personal Only Hope for keeping your beloved liberal party in power after they've destroyed Canada for 10 years running. He is no hope whatsoever with regards to trump. He has no experience in politics, he has no experience with government negotiations with other governments, he doesn't even truly understand how our government system works. He's never been a part of it. He's not even a businessman. He's a banker. If dealing with trump involved getting a really good deal on a mortgage then he would be perfect. He would be an unmitigated disaster for Canada brought to you by the people that brought us our last unmitigated disaster for Canada Justin Trudeau. Fortunately it doesn't look like it's going to be an issue. I doubt anyone's even going to know who he is, vast majority of Canadians don't know and he's not really doing any interviews in Canada or meeting with reporters. And when he does he looks kind of weak. He will have done an exceptional job if he gets the liberals above 50 seats. I doubt that he'll even hit that. He certainly isn't going to win anything and he certainly would be a disaster with trump Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 5 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: He has proven that he is not a good leader, and should be tossed from the Conservative Party. My take is that the populists ists have a better understanding of politics, and can capitalize on that, Politically, by breaking conventions and exploiting New Media in a way that the old guard cannot. The problem is that politics is more than winning elections. Big problems need deep thinking, and collaboration with the public as well as experts. Slogans don't solve big problems. 1 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Barquentine Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 10 hours ago, CdnFox said: People have to find woke here about 150 times now. Every time the word comes up one of you low brain lefties tries to pretend that nobody can explain it. Like the definition of Feminism. when you ask a lot of women if they're Feminists, they quickly say no. But if you ask about the things Feminists stand for, they agree with every one of them. Quote
Nationalist Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 14 hours ago, Aristides said: Of course he never said any such thing. He said that while Americans engage in a war on woke, Canadians will continue to value the truth. Anyone got a problem with that? And what "truth" might that be? The "truth" that imposes preferred pronouns and the legalized warping of reality? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Moonbox Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 (edited) 8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: The problem is that politics is more than winning elections. Big problems need deep thinking, and collaboration with the public as well as experts. Slogans don't solve big problems. I think the bigger problem sometimes is that there is so much thinking, so much naval-gazing, so much squabbling and moralizing, that problems are ignored and left to fester. What was a smaller issue that could have been nipped at the bud with deliberate, surgical action ends up becoming monolithic, at which point a sledgehammer becomes the better tool. Say whatever you want about Orange Man, that sort of *decisive action has value. Edited February 6 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
eyeball Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: Say whatever you want about Orange Man, that sort of divisive action has value. For sure. Creative destruction in nature results in a more resilient diverse ecosystem that replaces the one(s) that are destroyed. The process of being destroyed just isn't a whole lot of fun is all. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Michael Hardner Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 3 hours ago, Moonbox said: I think the bigger problem sometimes is that there is so much thinking, so much naval-gazing, so much squabbling and moralizing, that problems are ignored and left to fester. What was a smaller issue that could have been nipped at the bud with deliberate, surgical action ends up becoming monolithic, at which point a sledgehammer becomes the better tool. Say whatever you want about Orange Man, that sort of *decisive action has value. I don't disagree. That's a lot of the reason we got here. But an immature public, who lets vested interests fight to a standstill will bear the cost of putting immature individuals in n charge of fixing things quickly. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
herbie Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 Shitheads that go berserk over wokeness aren't going to vote Liberal if Hell freezes over. So f*ck what they think. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 14 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: My take is that the populists ists have a better understanding of politics, and can capitalize on that, Politically, by breaking conventions and exploiting New Media in a way that the old guard cannot. "politics is a blood sport" ~ Aneurin Bevan right wing counterrevolution just win, baby Quote
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