This is how Kamala could win.

[Black Dog]

9 minutes ago, ironstone said:

There was a reason for that. She knew her campaign had no traction and never any momentum. Not even in her home state.

That's true, but that's not the issue, which is the claims that "She didn't get ANY votes -zero zip. She was literally at the bottom of the pack" are factually untrue unless you want to play dumb semantic tricks.

[Hodad]

15 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

That's true, but that's not the issue, which is the claims that "She didn't get ANY votes -zero zip. She was literally at the bottom of the pack" are factually untrue unless you want to play dumb semantic tricks.

This coming from a guy who got zero votes in the Democratic primary. Bottom of the pack!🥸

[gatomontes99]

I'll tell you how Sky Pointers Kamala could win. Filing articles of impeachment. That more-on needs to be b1tch slapped. Don't do the banana republic b.s. they pulled. Just hang those policies around her neck. That admin has a horrible economy, horrible border record, horrible international record and she covered up Joe's mental decline. It all needs to be on her.

Impeachment articles put the attention back on us. It is a bone headed idea that should absolutely be shot down.

[CouchPotato]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

She's not in that league at all, she has to bring something else. Being the political equivilant of a disney princess would do it ,  biden is supposed to talk to the nation later today, we'll see if the dems managed to talk him into it. 

Absolutely agree. I just have the mindset that you should always act as if your opponent can win. It's almost a superstition with me. I think it comes from watching hockey. I am never comfortable with being ahead on the scoreboard until the game is over. I'm fully convinced that someday scientists are going to discover the Law of Jinx. 😋

Edited July 24 by CouchPotato

[CdnFox]

34 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Fact:  She conceded the election and did not attempt a coup.

 

Fact -  nboody has attempted a coup.  Has anyone been charged with rebellion against the state or insurrection? No? well there you go. 

And fact - she has not conceded the election, she still says he was not the 'real president'.  So while they may have given up that night she has never stated trump is the lawful president. 

Further fact - trump did concede.  I dont know why you guys keep claiming otherwise.  here's a video below

IF you mean he didn't concede right away - sorry but the dems have a history of that too (hanging chad anyone? )

So you were wrong across the board. 

Why do you feel the need to lie about stuff like this? 

 

 

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Fact -  nboody has attempted a coup.  Has anyone been charged with rebellion against the state or insurrection? No? well there you go.

Trump literally attempted a coup d'etat.  Trump was arrested and charged for it in a southern Republican state which has a GOP Governor and fully GOP-controlled state legislature in both House and Senate.  He and his lawyers literally tried to create a fake group of Electoral College electors in several GOP-friendly states and have them forge fake election documents to pass to Pence for him to count during the Jan 6 confirmation and make Trump the winner.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66503668

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Former US President Donald Trump has been arrested on 13 charges in Georgia for his alleged efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss in the state.

The 98-page indictment, issued on 14 August, claims that Mr Trump "unlawfully conspired" to change the election outcome while participating in a "criminal enterprise".  Other charges include false claims of election fraud and solicitation of violation of oath.

 

Edited July 25 by Moonlight Graham

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Trump literally attempted a coup d'etat. 

 

He literally did not and that's been well established.  The accusation now is that he provoked a riot and none of the rioters have been charged with insurrection either. 

Sorry kiddo - blatant lie.  There was no possible way that their actions could ever have ended in trump staying in power or the gov't being overthrown. 
A lie. ANd one even the prosecutors don't agree with 

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Trump was arrested and charged for it in a southern Republican state

Trump has never ever been charged with insurrection 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66503668

Umm.... your own link shows he was never 'charged for it'.  I see forgery, impersonation charges - could you point me to where the insurrection charges are specficially?

No? hmmm. 

In fact - that was the basis for trying to leave him off the ballots in numerous states - and the supreme court said "oh hell no".  

Oh - and georga voted democrat last time. Boy you just can't get ANYTHING right can you?

No insurrection. And while there's charges of fraud there's no conviction. 

Soooo yeah.  Swing and a miss again. 

 

 

[DUI_Offender]

8 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

 

I won't lie. In Canada and in the US, I'd much rather have a non-woke candidate win. I think I speak for more than half of the population in either country, when they say they're sick of that.

 

No you do not...at least in Canada.

Mock polling was conducted in 2020, to see who Canadians would prefer during that election. It was 84-16 Biden.

"Woke" is an intellectually lady word, which could mean anything, and really has no clear definition.

Edited July 25 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

No you do not...at least in Canada.

yes he does. The polls are pretty clear that people have had it with woke garbage and politics. 

Besides, you should like trump! you're both convicted criminals, so much in common   

[DUI_Offender]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

yes he does. The polls are pretty clear that people have had it with woke garbage and politics. 

Besides, you should like trump! you're both convicted criminals, so much in common   

Let's see these polls.

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Let's see these polls.

You're falling into a trap though. 

Woke as a pejorative term doesn't actually describe anything specific.  People on here have have made it clear that it's a fashion, or a social trend, not anything so specific in policy. 

 

[Chrissy1979]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He literally did not and that's been well established. 

 

Then how come you guys wanted to hang Mike Pence? How come he can't be the running mate anymore?

[Boges]

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Trump was President of the United States..

And lost his re-election campaign. 

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Kamala is the understudy. Give it a rest.

It's quite common for VPs to run for POTUS. 

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, Boges said:

It's quite common for VPs to run for POTUS. 

In my lifetime Nixon, LBJ, Humphrey, Ford, Mondale, Bush sr., Gore, Dole, Biden, Harris.  From memory, and those were just the ones getting the nomination.

(Sorry, I don't remember what Donald Trump Jr said last week though 😂)

[Perspektiv]

6 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

in 2020

A few things have happened since then. Am just saying..

[Five of swords]

On 7/24/2024 at 1:30 AM, CdnFox said:

Kamala's chances aren't great at the moment. They are trying desperately to give her momentum by flooding every news outlet with hyper positive garbage to make it seem like she has a chance. But the simple fact is it is very very late in the game for her to be trying to start her motor never mind running the race. She has about a 30 to 40% chance of winning

 

what she desperately needs is a major boost start. She needs for the public to be thinking of her in the most positive light possible, she needs the public to be talking about anything other than her track record or Biden's, and she needs to present some reason for people to think of her as a symbol of hope and not a symbol of impending disaster with a horrible cackle.

If the democrats want to win, they talk Biden into stepping down from the presidency. They do a huge emotional transfer of power to Kamala acts like a father giving away the bride and stepping aside and falling in battle like the old soldier he is passing the baton to a new hero with his final gasp in public as he hugs her and says "I'm so sorry i couldn't be there fighint beside you to the end. It's up to you to carry on for both of us and save america. now go beat his pants off kid"  (Snif'!)   there woudn't be  a dry eye in the house. 

For the next week and a half all that would be in the paper is america's first female president, America's first female black president, how does Obama feel about seeing another black person in the white house so fast, isn't it great that we have finally broken the glass ceiling, etc etc.

All the talk will be about her and how great this is and what she might do in the future, and everything in the past will be forgotten. She would sail into September ahead of trump in the polls, the center of attention and the bell of the ball.

Now trump basically becomes a giant orange death star, she becomes Luke kamalawalker and her running mate is either han or chewie, depending on whether its Shapiro or Kelly (itl'll  be kelly you heard it here first), and everyone everywhere is rooting for her 

If the dems realize that she wins. If they don't she's got a hell of a road ahead of her. 

 

What she needs to do is convince everyone she is black. So she needs to lose all her campaign funds on corruption, drugs, and car accessories.

[Fluffypants]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

In my lifetime Nixon, LBJ, Humphrey, Ford, Mondale, Bush sr., Gore, Dole, Biden, Harris.  From memory, and those were just the ones getting the nomination.

(Sorry, I don't remember what Donald Trump Jr said last week though 😂)

They are chosen by the primary process not just handed to them because their primary candidate was going to lose and big donors were pulling out. You can't claim to be the arbiters of Democracy and then just say screw it when things don't go your way.

You all spent years trying to convince everyone and their grandma, Biden was perfectly fine and actually better than he ever was.

In no way what has happened within the Democrat party and this situation makes them look good.

It would be one thing if Biden was diagnosed with a disease and had only a few months to live and had to leave office but he is staying in office and as far as we know he has nothing wrong with him, health wise.

In 2016 and 2020 Republicans knew they were behind the 8 ball with Trump but he ran in the primary and won and was the candidate even though his polls were worse that Bidens now are.

 

 

[sharkman]

33 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

They are chosen by the primary process not just handed to them because their primary candidate was going to lose and big donors were pulling out. You can't claim to be the arbiters of Democracy and then just say screw it when things don't go your way.

You all spent years trying to convince everyone and their grandma, Biden was perfectly fine and actually better than he ever was.

In no way what has happened within the Democrat party and this situation makes them look good.

It would be one thing if Biden was diagnosed with a disease and had only a few months to live and had to leave office but he is staying in office and as far as we know he has nothing wrong with him, health wise.

In 2016 and 2020 Republicans knew they were behind the 8 ball with Trump but he ran in the primary and won and was the candidate even though his polls were worse that Bidens now are.

 

 

Chosen by the primary process.  BLM, the DEM goon squad, has released a statement about Harris being the candidate, and they don’t sound exactly pleased.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-lives-matter-demands-dnc-181145102.html

“Now, Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public. This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values. We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden’s place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don’t even know who it is yet.”

She’s got some work to do to win them over, is what it sounds like to me.

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

50 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

They are chosen by the primary process not just handed to them because their primary candidate was going to lose and big donors were pulling out.  ...

Yeah, I'm not going to comment on that aspect.  I just liked that someone was reflecting on US History so I chimed in.

[Moonlight Graham]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He literally did not and that's been well established.  The accusation now is that he provoked a riot and none of the rioters have been charged with insurrection either. 

Sorry kiddo - blatant lie.  There was no possible way that their actions could ever have ended in trump staying in power or the gov't being overthrown. 
A lie. ANd one even the prosecutors don't agree with 

Trump has never ever been charged with insurrection 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66503668

Umm.... your own link shows he was never 'charged for it'.  I see forgery, impersonation charges - could you point me to where the insurrection charges are specficially?

No? hmmm. 

In fact - that was the basis for trying to leave him off the ballots in numerous states - and the supreme court said "oh hell no".  

Oh - and georga voted democrat last time. Boy you just can't get ANYTHING right can you?

No insurrection. And while there's charges of fraud there's no conviction. 

Soooo yeah.  Swing and a miss again.

I never argued Trump attempted an "insurrection", that's a strawman.  I said he attempted an illegal coup by he and his lawyers attempting electoral fraud via forgery of fake elector ballots and creating a fake slate of electors in several states they wanted to overturn, and Trump has been charged with such, along with his lawyers, including Giuliani.  Trump also tried to convince his VP to along with it, who refused based on the unconstitutional illegality of it all, and then Trump publicly threw Pence under the bus for it calling him a "traitor".  Trump is the traitor.

Trump attempted an illegal coup and it failed and has been arrested and charged for it.  Not all illegal coups are violent.

[Perspektiv]

24 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Try...just

I think Ukraine seriously negotiates a peace deal before mid 2025. Book it. I would be shocked at this war making it until the end of next year, which would be devastating to either.

[Perspektiv]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

not anything so specific in policy. 

Tell that to addicts in Vancouver, who are victim to woke policies.

IE safe injection spaces. Decriminalization. 

Kind of like getting offended on the behalf of others. Its got the right intent behind it, but ignores the unintended consequences.

Woke used to mean one thing, but was high jacked by people who feel you can somehow bring down people to people others up socially.

This permeates their policies which again have good intent.

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

1. Tell that to addicts in Vancouver, who are victim to woke policies.

2. Woke used to mean one thing, but was high jacked by people who feel you can somehow bring down people to people others up socially. This permeates their policies which again have good intent.

1. Nothing in that statement validates 'Woke' as a meaningful term.  As I recall we chased each other around a thread for a few days once and never came to anything other than my suggestion that it's a general description of "extreme progressivity".  As for drug policy, we'd have to chat on that one... it's not just a question of progressive attitudes but rooted in public health and medicine.  And your criticism might be that it actually ISN'T.  That's fair, but as for whether it's "woke"... it's only debatable and without hard definitions we're just gabbing.

2. Well at least you can see that there's good intent there.  But, yeah, when Republicans started using "woke" as a pejorative only it lost all usefulness it could have to separate good ideas from bad.  Nobody will stand up to say they're "woke" in the public sphere, as it will taint them as ridiculous, supporting forced bikini waxes and so on.

Big yawn for me.  I want to find ways to move past the silly culture spats.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Let's see these polls.

They've been posted here a dozen times, several by me. I"m not running around reposting crap every time one of your ilk sealions because they don't like the truth. You can easily look up the following and see it's true on your own. 

Support for the left wing parties federally is completely in the hole. Support for the current level of immigrants is non existent. Support for carbon taxes is extremely low. The 'safe supply' program test piloted in bc has been a complete failure and people familiar with it are done with it including the cops and the medical experts dealing with the fall out. There are now demonstrations and marches in the streets against trans and gay encroachments on basic rights of parents and families. Laws are being passed affirming parental rights across many provinces to shut up the woke teachers who think they're better at raising children. 

Is that enough? Did you need more? 

People are DONE with woke. They're done with being cancelled and they're done with being told their country is full of evil oppressors by it's very nature and they're done with woke. 

 

Go have another drink loser. 

[DUI_Offender]

23 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

People are DONE with woke. They're done with being cancelled and they're done with being told their country is full of evil oppressors by it's very nature and they're done with woke. 

 

Can you do us all a favor, and define "woke?" Is woke a political party,  a movement, or....?

I am unfamiliar which what woke encompasses. 

Edited July 25 by DUI_Offender