West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, Hodad said: To the contrary, I think it takes very little mental energy to just parrot whatever random crap Trump and his cronies say. No thinking required. Still thinking the laptop is from the Russians are you? Just now, Hodad said: They didn't impede any investigation. That's asinine. There is zero difference between the open letter and the expert pundits that appear on news channels 24/7 to opine about the news of the day. Ya they did. They are claiming to be experts while fabricating conspiracy theories about Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 12 minutes ago, West said: https://nypost.com/2020/10/15/emails-reveal-how-hunter-biden-tried-to-cash-in-big-with-chinese-firm/ Wrong again about the laptop. No that’s just innuendo from a right wing newspaper. The actual investigation conducted by Republicans for Republicans found no evidence of illegality in the laptop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: No that’s just innuendo from a right wing newspaper. The actual investigation conducted by Republicans for Republicans found no evidence of illegality in the laptop. The house doesn't investigate for illegality. Take a civics course 😆 In fact there were illegality on the laptop which led to the Biden conviction https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/business/media/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post.html Edited June 12 by West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 3 minutes ago, West said: The house doesn't investigate for illegality. Take a civics course 😆 They can strike a committee to investigate whatever they want. Take a civics course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: They can strike a committee to investigate whatever they want. Take a civics course You clearly don't have a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 20 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: What a ridiculous thing for you to say. The whole reason people plead guilty is to get a lighter sentence. Normal people sure, but if he'd done that and gotten a lighter sentence everyone would think he got the light sentence because of daddy. Like i said this is about the spectacle. Quote I think the only gullible people are people like you who believe in conspiracies woth no evidence. There's evidence. And if you're going to try to claim there's no such thing as back room deals when it comes to the president then i'll pack you a lunch for your day at preschool today. But lets be clear, there is only a little evidence and evidence is not proof. We will be able to know for sure when we see both the sentence AND how long he actually serves it. Hey - if he's in jail 2 years after sentencing i'll be the first to say my suspicions were unfounded. Mark it on your calendar But i suspect he'll be free for the new year. He might still have probation or the like but i think he'll be mostly done with the issue. Quote If he pleads guilty for a lighter sentence, it’s rigged. If he pleads not guilty and is acquitted it’s rigged. If he pleads not guilty and is convicted it’s still somehow secretly rigged they’re just trying to make it look like it’s not rigged. No, you're not paying attention. Don't make me get my crayons out for you. There would be no rigging if he plead guilty and got a light sentence. BUT that would not satisfy daddy's political problems. If he is convicted and gets a very favorable sentance THAT would be rigged. Or if he gets a harsh sentence but that sentence is magically done away with after the election it's rigged. IF he goes to jail for the next two years then that would be a pretty good sign it wasn't rigged. I don't thnk we'll see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 39 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Normal people sure, but if he'd done that and gotten a lighter sentence everyone would think he got the light sentence because of daddy. Like i said this is about the spectacle. There's evidence. And if you're going to try to claim there's no such thing as back room deals when it comes to the president then i'll pack you a lunch for your day at preschool today. But lets be clear, there is only a little evidence and evidence is not proof. We will be able to know for sure when we see both the sentence AND how long he actually serves it. Hey - if he's in jail 2 years after sentencing i'll be the first to say my suspicions were unfounded. Mark it on your calendar But i suspect he'll be free for the new year. He might still have probation or the like but i think he'll be mostly done with the issue. No, you're not paying attention. Don't make me get my crayons out for you. There would be no rigging if he plead guilty and got a light sentence. BUT that would not satisfy daddy's political problems. If he is convicted and gets a very favorable sentance THAT would be rigged. Or if he gets a harsh sentence but that sentence is magically done away with after the election it's rigged. IF he goes to jail for the next two years then that would be a pretty good sign it wasn't rigged. I don't thnk we'll see that. They'll use this as a means of cracking down on gun owners now. Look for leftist fabricated charges (just like their Russian conspiracy theories) against gun owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 57 minutes ago, West said: Still thinking the laptop is from the Russians are you? Ya they did. They are claiming to be experts while fabricating conspiracy theories about Russia They are people of deep experience, that's not really debatable. Again private citizens are welcome to opine about whatever they want, whenever they want without fear of retribution from the government. That's the absolute core of freedom of speech. But the real takeaway here is that you, personally, have no idea what it means to "impede" an investigation. LIke, none whatsoever. To an appalling degree. If you think someone drafting an open letter impedes an investigation you need to get your head checked, ya loon. Before you try to lock up all the cable news pundits in wave 1 of your fascist paradise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 10 minutes ago, Hodad said: They are people of deep experience, that's not really debatable. Again private citizens are welcome to opine about whatever they want, whenever they want without fear of retribution from the government. That's the absolute core of freedom of speech. But the real takeaway here is that you, personally, have no idea what it means to "impede" an investigation. LIke, none whatsoever. To an appalling degree. If you think someone drafting an open letter impedes an investigation you need to get your head checked, ya loon. Before you try to lock up all the cable news pundits in wave 1 of your fascist paradise. They knowingly lied and used their official titles to do so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, West said: Uh it's been all over the news, son. Tony Bobulinski has provided the goods House RepubliCONS have struck out so many times they have NO CREDIBILITY, and NEITHER DO YOU. Provide EVIDENCE HERE or GPS 1 hour ago, West said: Is impeding a criminal investigation "freedom of speech"? Sure they have a right to be wrong but do not have a right to stand behind their title to spread malicious lies. You ALWAYS give Trump a pass for that. Hypocrisy much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, West said: https://nypost.com/2020/10/15/emails-reveal-how-hunter-biden-tried-to-cash-in-big-with-chinese-firm/ Wrong again about the laptop. Trying is NOT succeeding. And Hunter has every right to pursue BUSINESS in China. Duh Edited June 12 by robosmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, West said: It's really not "clear" what he was trying to do. Either way his lawyer still had the duty to advise him this was illegal (if in fact it was, which is heavily disputed) I also don't really care about Donnie and his sex addiction all that much. Immoral? Absolutely. I care more about the west being sold out to communist dictatorships and then implementing fascist type policies in every facet of society. This has more of an impact than whether or not Trump filed the correct tax form after being extorted by a greasy lawyer and his bimbo Of course Trump deducted his "legal expenses," that and the hiding of campaign expenses were the whole reasons for that misclassification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: Trying is NOT succeeding. And Hunder has every right to pursue BUSINESS in China. Duh There you have it. It's their right to sell out the presidency to a hostile foreign government, Democrats gleefully exclaim 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: It’s uncommon because this is typically an add-on charge when authorities take down gun smugglers, drug traffickers, gang members etc Sure, normally you'd also charge people with cocaine possession or smoking crack or the like... hmmmm. Quote It’s absurd MAGA logic to assume that the fact Hunter wasn’t charged with crimes like that proves that he must be guilty of them. It's absurd dumbocrat logic to pretend that's what i said. Quote The reality is that Trump loyalists put the Biden family under a microscope to find SOMETHING to charge SOMEBODY with, given all the Trump acolytes who have been convicted and the many investigations into Trump’s own misdeeds. Hunter’s taxes and his gun application are all they could come up with. So that’s what he’s been charged with. Trump didn't find his notebook, trump didn't write the texts where he admits doing drugs, trump didn't try to write off hookers as a business expense on his taxes, trump didn't write the emails which his business partner says refers to giving his daddy part of his influence money, trump etc etc etc. I mean there's the fara issues, and dozens more on TOP of the tax issues he's going to court for. I really don't give a crap about trump. But anyone with a rational brain can see this guy is NOT some sort of innocent saint as you suggest who's being railroaded by trump. This guy is a criminal who did a lot of criminal things and yet got charged with a throwaway charge. He's not a poor innocent angel who's just misunderstood and picked on by trump or whatever the hell your partisan brain believes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 6 minutes ago, West said: There you have it. It's their right to sell out the presidency to a hostile foreign government, Democrats gleefully exclaim Of course he is not this glib about the right of Clarence Thomas to have a rich friend who takes him on vacations... 8 minutes ago, robosmith said: Of course Trump deducted his "legal expenses," that and the hiding of campaign expenses were the whole reasons for that misclassification. What stupidity. If Trump had claimed paying off someone with hush money as a campaign expense then that would have been a violation of federal campaign expense laws. This is why we rightfully point out the stupidity of the charges he was facing. There was no campaign crime he was concealing. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 47 minutes ago, West said: They'll use this as a means of cracking down on gun owners now. Look for leftist fabricated charges (just like their Russian conspiracy theories) against gun owners I'm sure they'd like to but considering the potential embarrassment to the presidential candidate I doubt they'll particularly push that issue right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Fluffypants said: Nixon was hiding crime what Trump was hiding isnt a crime. Can you read the law which was violated? Or are you illiterate? 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: No that’s just innuendo from a right wing newspaper. The actual investigation conducted by Republicans for Republicans found no evidence of illegality in the laptop. NYP is not a newspaper; just tabloid trash like National Enquirer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 (edited) 34 minutes ago, West said: There you have it. It's their right to sell out the presidency to a hostile foreign government, Democrats gleefully exclaim What did they sell out? https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/ Edited June 12 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, West said: The house doesn't investigate for illegality. Take a civics course 😆 In fact there were illegality on the laptop which led to the Biden conviction https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/business/media/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post.html Your link is paywalled. Try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy1979 Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: What did they sell out? I think he's thinking of when Ivanka was gifted those patents by China or when Jared inexplicably received billions from Saudi Arabia to be a "consultant". Edited June 12 by Chrissy1979 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 34 minutes ago, West said: There you have it. It's their right to sell out the presidency to a hostile foreign government, Democrats gleefully exclaim You are FOS. Hunter is NOT the POTUS. Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: Your link is paywalled. Try again Nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 29 minutes ago, User said: Of course he is not this glib about the right of Clarence Thomas to have a rich friend who takes him on vacations... What stupidity. Yes you are VERY STUPID if you believe that a JoSCOTUS taking bribes to stay on the court is the same as Hunter (private citizen) pursuing business in China. LMAO 29 minutes ago, User said: If Trump had claimed paying off someone with hush money as a campaign expense then that would have been a violation of federal campaign expense laws. And New York state election laws. Only a violation of the Federal law you cite if it was NOT REPORTED which of course it WAS NOT. 29 minutes ago, User said: This is why we rightfully point out the stupidity of the charges he was facing. There was no campaign crime he was concealing. Not reporting self-financed campaign expenditures is illegal. Why do you believe you know the law when you clearly DO NOT? 3 minutes ago, West said: Nonsense Until you post the quote, ^this is what YOU HAVE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 12 Author Report Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Yes you are VERY STUPID if you believe that a JoSCOTUS taking bribes to stay on the court is the same as Hunter (private citizen) pursuing business in China. LMAO And New York state election laws. Only a violation of the Federal law you cite if it was NOT REPORTED which of course it WAS NOT. Not reporting self-financed campaign expenditures is illegal. Why do you believe you know the law when you clearly DO NOT? Until you post the quote, ^this is what YOU HAVE. Proven wrong and won't admit it making up a fabricated lie about a paywall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, West said: They knowingly lied and used their official titles to do so. A. You cannot demonstrate that the lied, and indeed it's very unlikely that they did. You're welcome to believe they were wrong, but that's a different matter. B. Their "titles" as retired or non-active intelligence personnel have no bearing on the situation. C. Even if BOTH of those points were true and relevant, it would in no way would it have impeded any investigation. That's absurd. Utterly ridiculous. I ridicule thee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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